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Lumatek High-Intensity Discharge/1200W
Lumatek
Lumatek High-Intensity Discharge/1200W
Lumatek
Viparspectra Light Emitting Diodes/600W
Viparspectra
Todogrowled Light Emitting Diodes/400W
Todogrowled
Zelsius
Zelsius
Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 3
Defoliation
weeks 3, 5
Soil
Grow medium
18 L
Pot Size
4
Week 4. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
Normal
900 PPM
45 %
20 °C
20 °C
18 °C
18 L
1 L
50 cm
Nutrients 4
Massive boom pk 50-33 0.3 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 1 mll
CANNA Terra Flores - Canna
CANNA Terra Flores 5 mll
Update week 4 day 23. The girls are looking healthy, started them on cannaboost and massive bloom pk 50-33 on saturday, looks like there might be a couple of keepers 🤞🏼 Some nice phenotypes. I took some individual photos of some of the plants under the LED's. Complicated to take individual photos of every plant as there is 20 of them to get out the grow room.. Will be able to take some more when i do a clean out next week. So, what differences are there between the 205w Cob led ramps and the 600w viparspectra ? This is obviously a unfair test and would have to be done using clones only to make it fair ( mabey next time ) The 410w cob ramps are covering 1 square meter just like the 600w viparspectra ( more like 300w.. ) First is light penetration into the canopy, a lot more effecient in favor of the cobs, flower sites being more advanced on the bottom half of the plants. Second would be harvest weight, the plants seem to be putting on a lot more weight under the cobs. Third would be trichome production, now don't get me wrong, the viparspectra 600w is also very good at this test and is usually better then the HPS. From experience Leds have better trichome production and denser flower results then HPS. But the cobs are definetly on another level... Things are really getting sticky under there... 😎 So... Now i have kind of "beaten up" the viparspectra, why buy one ? The cobs are close to 400euros per ramp, thats 800euros... The viparspectra 600w is 169euros... I think the viparspectra is good for someone getting into leds and is good for growing 2 plants maximum in a 80x80 grow room using a Hst, Lst or Scrog technique to help with the penetration issus. In this case it's a great bang for your buck ! 👍🏼 I will obviously be doing some end results at harvest time. Thanks for following ! Hope you enjoy 😎
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Week 5. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
Strong
900 PPM
45 %
20 °C
20 °C
18 °C
18 L
1 L
50 cm
Nutrients 4
Massive boom pk 50-33 0.3 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 1 mll
CANNA Terra Flores - Canna
CANNA Terra Flores 5 mll
Update day 29 of flowering. Big clean out of the grow room this week, also gave the girls a good clean, looking nice and tidy in there 😊 Unfortunately the Superskunk under the COB had to leave due to hermie issues. She has been replaced by the Sticky Superskunk that was under the HPS. The smell coming from this plant is amazing, very pungent and very oily smell. Very interesting phenotype. Both gorilla smell very gassy/diesel like, the gorilla under the COB having a hint of citrus also. The california indica smells of orange and sweet afghani hash, just what i expected. The lemon critical smells like straight lemon as usual. Forgot to take photos of the bubbalicious, will update on her next week. Otherwise all is going well in the growroom, the plants are healthy and starting to put on some weight. Things are really getting frosty also, budporn photos in next weeks update 😎 Enjoy and Happy growing 😊
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Defoliation
Technique
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Week 6. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
Strong
900 PPM
45 %
20 °C
20 °C
18 °C
18 L
1 L
50 cm
Nutrients 3
Massive boom pk 50-33 0.3 mll
CANNA Terra Flores - Canna
CANNA Terra Flores 3 mll
CANNA BOOST Accelerator - Canna
CANNA BOOST Accelerator 2 mll
Update day 36. Hi growmates ! Unfortunately due to some connexion problems i am a couple of days late on my update. Things are going well this week, the plants are healthy and super frosty 😎 I also made friends with a hornet living in the grow room, but unfortunately i didn't trust him and killed him.. I started the flush end of last week on the cali indica under the COB. She is a really fast flowering phenotype. She should be ready at day 50. I will also be starting to flush most of the girls next week. The gorilla under the HPS is amazing, she will not be a heavy producer at all, but having been able to taste some " Real " gorilla glue abroad she is the closest i have ever seen to the " real " thing.. Super dense, super sticky with a very pungent citrus diesel aroma. Amazing genetics from Dinafem ! There gorilla is usually really good but this phenotype is off the chart !! I tried to take the best bud shots i could, unfortunately its complicated to get all the plants out the room and take photos of all the girls.. i will do a big update of all of them before harvest though. Update of COB vs Viparspectra : The COB is definelty more of a heavy producer, better light penetration and best overall quality but after growing a few times with the viparspectra i have come to realize that the viparspectra makes very dense buds, like rock hard everytime. If anyone has an explanation let me know 😊 Until next week, Happy growing everybody 😎🥦
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TheUk420Show
TheUk420Showcommentedweek 35 years ago
Seems this grower has already Waxed many cars :P Wax on Wax off. Very impressive Sir. I bet you can't wait to Karate Chop this XD Oh god this isolation is going to my head. Looking awesome pal. Best of luck for the imminent harvest :)
Mr_Miyagi91
Mr_Miyagi91commented5 years ago
@TheUk420Show, Thanks bro ! You too ! 😊
TheUk420Show
TheUk420Showcommented5 years ago
@Mr_Miyagi91, Yup thats it unforftunatly its just a part of our beloved hobby :) Gl with the next few weeks :)
Mr_Miyagi91
Mr_Miyagi91commented5 years ago
@TheUk420Show, Same here, most of the time i use clones from my mothers collected over the years. Well, i have no light leakage or stress problems that i can think of, so i am going to put it down to a unstable phenotype.. only had a few bananas late in flower. But was not prepared to take any risk. Happens from time to time with fem seeds unfortunately. But oh well its all part of the fun haha 😊
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TheUk420Show
TheUk420Showcommentedweek 65 years ago
Man that gorrila looks like its about ready for the judo chop ? one or two more weeks ? Dang sensei show me the way :D :D. A question for you ? Do you start counting the weeks after you change the light cycle or do you start to count the weeks from when you see buds on the plant ? both lights have formed nice looking buds :)
Mr_Miyagi91
Mr_Miyagi91commented5 years ago
@TheUk420Show, Yeah not long now ! Going to give here about 10 more days, think i will take her down around 50% amber trichs. Going for the KO 😂 Hahahaha. I have always started counting 7 days after switch 😊 Thanks man ! I have been using HPS for about 15 years and was septic about going to LEDs, its quite new too me, but im glad i did ! Will be changing all the lights for next grow !
BDD_RJP
BDD_RJPcommentedweek 45 years ago
Fun test run can't wait to see the outcome!
Mr_Miyagi91
Mr_Miyagi91commented5 years ago
@BDD_RJP, Thanks bro 😊
Atleticodemaweed
Atleticodemaweedcommentedweek 55 years ago
Smell that from over here
Mr_Miyagi91
Mr_Miyagi91commented5 years ago
@Atleticodemaweed, Haha, yeah it does smell pretty strong 😎 Happy growing man 🥦
Mospeada
Mospeadacommentedweek 35 years ago
Good stuff...Love seeing diaries that put things to the test. I started off on a cheap LED. I never actually harvested a grow from it so I'm keen to see how it performs.
Mr_Miyagi91
Mr_Miyagi91commented5 years ago
@Mospeada, Thanks bro ! To make it simple, the cob leds have much better penetration into the canopy, greater quality end product and better harvest weight. IMO The viparspectra 600w LED is great for getting into leds and is just fine for 1 or 2 plants maximum in a 80x80 growtent using hst, lst or scrog technique. It's good for the money ! Will be showing some comparaison photos on saturday 😊 Not very fair due to being seeds and not clones but its makes the point. Happy growing 😎
CaptainCream
CaptainCreamcommentedweek 55 years ago
Nice and healthy plants good luck man, Keep Up. ✊👍
Mr_Miyagi91
Mr_Miyagi91commented5 years ago
@CaptainCream, Thanks bro 💪🏽
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodGrower
Se ve que las plantitas están en buenas manos👌 hermosas flores bro!
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommentedweek 65 years ago
Keep it up 👍🙏🏻
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