'GDP x Bruce' by i49

Hello and welcome to the first week of Bloom with Granddaddy Bruce. This'll be a copy/paste from PSK as both girls are showing similar issues. It will be a long read and I apologize in advance. The deets: The Symptoms (symptomatic for 2 weeks): -Very clear yellowing/dull green newer leaves. -Shiny coloring on new sets. Almost looks like a sheen and is picked up easily with the camera flash on. -New fan sets and secondary sets are growing smaller and slower then previous. -Pushing many new shoots but all are more spindly then previous. -Marginal leaf curl at base of fans, new and old. Used to occur at night, but is persistent throughout the day, now. -Newer leaves over-lapping and sets are growing far too close to one another, causing sweating, tangling and twisting of the leaves. -Leaf blades are thinner then previous, cupping more and have this marginal leaf curl starting earlier then before. -Very slight burning of leaf tips, even with a balanced pH and lack of Nitrogen -Inter-nodes are too tight, but better then the others. **June 3rd/4th** Reached out to several different people. I felt my thinking was off and I wasn't seeing anything correctly. If my thinking got me into this, this same brain probably wasn't going to get me out of it. Not without help. Posted pictures in Week 8 of Veg, along with details of my actions, and asked a lot of questions over 2 days before making any more decisions/applying more nutrients. Some things I knew already, but a lot of this was fresh insight and new eyes on things I wasn't seeing **June 3rd/4th** The Consensus: -Clear Nitrogen deficiency -Mag/Cal deficiency (appears to be by the mosaic pattern/blotching on leaves) -Zinc and/or iron deficiency w/ a possible sulfur issue as well -PH imbalance and may be too high -Over-fertilized causing nutrient uptake issues -Then...someone mentioned a Phosphorus excess. Never seen it, didn't know the symptoms...but it lined right up **June 5th** After doing my own reading, following guidance and going over my journal notes things were pretty clear. I have been dosing the crap out of my plants (All but Space Cookies) w/ heavy Phosphorus for awhile now😬. I wanted "a strong root system" after the terrible early Veg, and I've swung far too far the other way. Even during her last flush, I ran Bloom through to "carry her" but it was really only making things worse. With the two heavy transitions feeds and the recent introduction of early PK booster, it just pushed them further into harm. **Phosphorous Excess** It has many similarities to a deficiency... including chlorosis. The reason why I see it as an excess, not a deficiency is from those past feedings. There has been more then ample supply of P and pH has been held at a steady 6.2-6.4. It is readily available and should not have an issue with a lack of P. These symptoms also progressed after the flush with Bloom, when I presume it would free up Nitrogen, but didn't. Here is a list of symptoms associated with a P excess. It might sound familiar to the symptoms listed above: -A phosphorus excess affects the plant by causing a massive nutrient lockout of other elements like calcium, copper, iron, magnesium and zinc, being zinc the first micro-element to get blocked -Upper leaves develop yellowing veins reminiscent of chlorosis (Yep!) -Leaf tips will start to show signs of burning, regardless of pH (Yep!) -Symptoms that look like Cal/Mag deficiency will occur, starting on lower sets (Yep!) -Inter-nodes will grow too tightly and the plant will start to grow slowly (Yep!) -Leaves will overlap and bunch together, limiting air/light and weak bud development. They will twist, curl and interfere with one another (Yep!) -New leaves grow "thin" fingers and are usually accompanied by marginal leaf fold (Yep!) -Will grow many new shoots but will be under-developed (Yep...) Steps Forward (With some guidance😉): -Done with feeding once every 4 days. Hand cuffs me if I make a mistake...which I do, a lot. Moving too daily or semi-daily feedings to mitigate what goes in and when -Applied a lite plant flush to all girls, pulling about 30% run-off. Water was very! heavy and she was not taking anything. -Done pushing nutrients. Big buds stopped being the focus, I just want them to be healthy now. Going to back off and give what is needed via top-side symptoms. No more heavy "full-meal deals" for now. This has and will assuredly keep things as hairy as they are. I usually fix one issue while creating others. It's not worth it -PK booster and any further additives are being cut for the time being. Basic Micro-Grow-Bloom, Humic acids, molasses and Cal/Mag will be the only thing touching the soil (But not all at once for a little while) -Due to overlapping leaves, circulation has been moved to max and drying is being expedited with this extra flow and additional heat. Night is also being held at 22-23 degrees as the medium was far too cold in the evening. -Dutch Dragon will be the first to go on the new schedule and each plant will be treated individually. Need to do more reading and re-watch some video links that were sent to me pertaining to feeding soil media on a daily basis. -No more swinging pH for nutrient applications. Will hold a constant 6.1/6.2 from here on out. Emphasis on run-off numbers will stop. Treat top side symptoms and stop fixing what's not broken. Final and Positive Note: It's far from over. She is growing and fanning out, just not in optimal fashion. Color is still there and leaves aren't going necro. She prays every day and seems to have good form, despite lack of chlorophyll. She has also stopped drooping out at nights... so that's actually a big plus this week. She holds her own all day and I feel it's a good sign. Pistil development is also in full swing, though it started slow. She is in flower and moving along. I often look at them after I write these and realize it's not as bad as I think in my head. I'm reminded that Cannabis is extremely versatile. Though they won't take constant abuse, there is still time to rectify my mistakes. With the steps and changes above and from the advice of others (not my brain!) I'm thinking I can stay patient and slowly work them back to health. It seems like I say that every week, but it's still true. Thank you to the several competent growers that helped me work this out. I really needed your eyes and advice here, otherwise I would still be scratching my head and pouring random additives and supplements in, trying desperately to fix what I've been doing. Not giving up in any way. Actually more determined then ever to get them to harvest. A learning curve I didn't necessarily want, but it appears to be necessary for me to learn and refine my practices. They're not exactly perfect... **This will be copy/pasted in PSK. Both plants show roughly the same symptoms (and Dutch Dragon) and have been treated with the same regiment/methods. They will be treated differently when it comes to daily feedings and individual symptoms. Holy crap, I hope that's it. I'm out. Peace!✊✊**