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Med_in_Tropic Med_in_Tropic
4 years ago
After twelve weeks of flowering, there are sign of mold. And I am calling it quit. Trimmed off fan leaves. Checked on trichome. Over all, Zamaldelica plants do not show much trichome. Trichomes are not visible to my old eyes. Comparatively, and Indica dominance plant would have a sea of trichome. Plant 1 trichome is clear and cloudy. Plant 2 flower looks horrible but trichome is rich and nice. Trichome does not always predict potency. I smoked buds from a branch that broken from plant 1. And it was crazy strong. Stem ringing and stem splitting is a good way to end a Sativa grow, I stabbed plant 1 in the trunk. Plant 2 trunk was too big and I ringed her instead. Expecting that she will be ready after three to four days. So, this is the final grow entry. In a couple of weeks, I’ll close the diary with a harvest report. On each plant: Plant 1 Plant 1 can probably go much longer. She is still giving new white pistils. More clones seemed to be surviving well. One good thing about Zamaldelica is the vigor. She clones easily. The top cola got mold. The cola is the most denst. And may be the anti-mold spray did not quite reach. Under the microscope, trichome is few. Plant 1 trichome is clear and just beginning to get cloudy. She could easily go for a month more. Plant 1 clone number 1 is thin and spindly. I only vegged her in 12 hours light for 6 weeks. Plant 1 clone number 2 is thick and robust. She had been vegging for 12 weeks. My primary Zamaldelica will be from this clone. Plant 1 new clones – as troublesome as she is to grow, she is still better than a land race Thai but with similar effect. I still have a small need of Sativa in my life. So, I think I’ll try maintain one Zamal Delica plant in my garden for a bit longer. There are three new clones that just started. Plant 2 Plant 2 looks like she is tired. Flowers are miserably small but pistils are brown. She looks like wild land race Sativa. Numerous leaves (low calyx-to-leaves ratio). I hate trimming this plant. And part of the plant 2 delayed flower. It was exposed to more light and developed about a month later. Under the microscope, I was pleasantly surprised. There is more trichome than plant 1. I don’t like the look of plant 2 flowers. They seemed damaged by root burn and recovered. Small numerus calyx would take a lot of work. So, I don’t think I am going to harvest this plant. I’ll give her away and won’t bother with the drying part. . Plant 2 clones. Plant 2 clone that is staying in a smaller 40 liters pot is developing well. Cola is denser than the mother in 80 liters pot. How you grow Zamaldelica matters a lot on how plant will develop in term of calyx shape and density. Another lesson learned. On the other hand, plant 2 clones in 80 liters pot had not flower after 4 weeks in the shade. So after 4 months of growing, I am pulling this one off. I can use the space for other plants that are getting ready. Plant 2 is taller, less dense, and is very sensitive to light. I might as well be growing a land race squirrel tail Thai. I don’t want any more out of her. So nope, no more clone out of this one. Plant 3 Plant 3 clones is vegging well. I plan to put her into flower by mid-December. So, I am going to close this diary without reporting on this phenotype. Plant 3 is smaller and flower the easiest. I think her root system is weak and does not tolerate water logging well. She would do fine in a hill area. And this would be great in a tent. But she is not for me. Again, I am not continuing with clone on plant 3. Daz from Mephisto Seeds bred and auto version of Zamaldelica as a Night Owl Seeds project. He commented on how he selected “middle of the road” phenotype to breed. And I finally understand and appreciate his comments. Ace Seeds also launched a Zamaldelica auto version. If you don’t want to go on 7 to 8 months project, an auto version might be better. Zamaldelica Express from Night Owl Seeds was way strong. Zamaldelica photo is even stronger. One or two puff and people will get a good high. A small joint put me near greening out. In other words, a weaker auto version will still be an extremely potent smoke. For me, I just like growing photo better because it takes less care just need more head room and time. Activity notes Rain is letting up. Temperature drop by a couple of degree Celcius. I need the last few days before harvest to be without rain. Activity notes Sprayed anti-mold microbes on Tuesday, Fed enzyme on Wednesday to help breakdown stuff from last week yoghurt. Trim leaves off on Thursday. Found mold on plant 1. Trashed top cola. (T T) Stabbed the stem on Friday evening. Thank you for following this venture. What I have got out of this one will be small amount of super potent mango smelling buds with clean high. It is nice to have a variety on lemony/sour fruity Thai smell. And I have a phenotype that I like to keep cloning for a while. Final thoughts - I wonder if I can keep bonsai Zamaldelica in a small pot for more than a year. Two inch diameter trunk about a foot tall. I can tell people its maple.
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Montuno
Montunocommentedweek 274 years ago
Hola! No crees que el herir el tallo hace a la planta mas débil ante infecciones y plagas? Salud y suerte!
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Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 254 years ago
Lovely med. That zamaldelica is firing in the tropics! I noticed wolf has a malawi going which is a parent strain. Both these must be popular as they are both out of stock at attitude! All the best matey
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
Oh @Shooey mate, it is a long ass grow. Had been growing since April and still a few weeks away. Ace Seeds keep their seed fresh and doesn't produce too many seeds. So, you have to keep an eye out for it. Good thing is that they label seed packing date. I got mine on boxing day sales and they were only a few months old. On the other hand, growing from regular seeds takes another step in weeding out male/female plants. Then you choose the phenotypes that you like and clone them. I think you buy Zamaldelica only once in a very long while. This is not an easy grow. However, the effect is very strong crazy potent weed. The type of weed that you pass one joint among your mates. A couple of drags will get you high enough before hitting the bars. I am reminiscing good old days. It is not the weed for spending time with your family. Even for party, I still like a more chilling out effect. I think half a dose of Zamaldelica would be a good smoke before out door sports. For gym, I over trained after I smoked Zamaldelica. Got so sore for a few days afterward 😄 😄 😅. And this is only from immature buds that I took from collapsed branch.
Irish_Luck
Irish_Luckcommentedweek 174 years ago
Good Day Med, I'm from the tropics too (we maybe in the same country too) Base on you knowledge, what strain can you recommend to grow in this hot climate for both regular and auto. Local strains are pain the ass to grow because of their long veg and flowering time and the buds end up very airy. I would be very glad to hear you answer, thank you.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@Irish_Luck, yes, I grow for medicinal purpose. I started to grow to for a friend with cancer. These day main use is for insomniacs. So, I make coconut infused oil. And there is also a guy who has the shake and relies on ganja. Every now and then, I smoke weed to lift my mood. Really help me survive my marriage.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@Irish_Luck, this is a hobby. I rely on friends to help me learn. I am happy to pay it forward. I grow outside. As much full sun as possible but not so much that passers by can see. I keep my plants in vegetation stage by placing them in spot where fence light cast on them during the night. When they get big enough, I moved them to other spots for flowering. Yes, Zamaldelica clones very easily. I made two rounds of clones already. Think I'll keep the smaller phenotype. Zamaldelica is very sensitive to light. The challenges is that they flowers only when light hour short. So part sun may be better. And Ace may not stock the seeds. I had to buy regular seeds and remove the males. Between ZD and Golden Tiger, think I can grow either one in a given year. Next year I'll be looking to Golden Tiger / Panama cross. There are many good seeds companies. Shipping are always discreet. Some has stealth option. I buy direct and not from local people. As a rule of thumb, I buy from area where cannabis is legal or semi-legal. That is Spain and the state of Illinois. These places have more options in payment and shipping. So my range of availability is limited. In all honesty, I can't possibly grow all the strains that I want in my life time. 😀😀😀 I would be happy to answer questions via Grow Diaries chat box.
Irish_Luck
Irish_Luckcommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, Damn! Those are the advice I want to hear, long and full of knowledge from experience. Apologies for the typographical errors on my first comment, I'm a little buzzed last night. I admire you Med, you're not like the other locals who are full of shit and grow just to boast about it and look cool (the reason is maybe in your name, you grow your medicines right?). I'm a cheap grower too, I prefer my plants outside and in the sun, but damn this country is hot lol. Do you grow in full sun or you give your plants good amount of shade? I got a little space in my yard to grow some but most part of it is shaded. Regarding the Zamldelica I used to want to grow those along with golden tiger but I read that they have a really long veg time. Yours look good and looks like they can be cloned easily. I've been eyeing to buy on sensibleseeds for some hybrids, have you got any experience using them? Are discreet shipping really that secure? Any advice you can share helps Med and for that I am grateful. I apologize for pelting you with so much question it's just that there's not much people in this country I can confidently rely on with good knowledge regarding this. Stay safe!
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MJS2017
MJS2017commentedweek 35 years ago
Lovely plants! Be careful with space, as Zamaldelica grows huuuge!;)
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
@@MJS2017, I learned quit a bit from your old Zamaldelica diary. Thank you for that. Also thanks for the warning. The are so fast. I better shorten vegging and keep pot small.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 234 years ago
Ahh, unlucky mate. It’s a tough part of the year for growing there by the looks. I imagine it’s hard to find the time to attend to them all as well. It’s funny about the work function. I feel like now is the time more and more people are being open about their cannabis use here in Oz, and it seems to be cutting through. Recently I know a petition is being prepared for submission in QLD in relation to easing of laws around small cultivators and access for medical and recreational users. It argues for up to 6 plants for personal use, which is just right i think. At least you will get some hard earned buds to enjoy quicker than expected!! Cheers matey 🍻
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@Shooey, 😀😀😀😀😀 Was never good to begin with, I just sing on stage every now and then. 😀😀😀😀
Shooey
Shooeycommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, it’s a good opportunity for you to break out the guitar mate!!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
😀😀😀😀😀 @Shooey, at the end of the party, one of the band singer walked over to comment that we were good audience. 😀😀😀😀 And we gave away half an ounce to them. If we w gave the band weed BEFORE, the party probably started dinner 😀😀😀😀😀 Now I don’t have any Boom Boom left. Lesson learned is that hybrid weed works well in a party setting. No paranoid, and not too Stoney.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommentedweek 264 years ago
Damn mold... Good luck wrapping this lady up Med. Hope the weather holds up for you and you can split her👍. Patience! LOL😂 Just kidding. That's what I need to learn. You've got that down😉
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, 😅 You just described me there. We have this in common. That's why I started growing these proxy projects, haha. If one fails over here, I'll have one over there!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
😀😀😀😀😀 Thanks @JinksyGrows. Alas, patience isn’t my virtue. I compensate by having many projects to ovoid over fussing with a given plant.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 274 years ago
You ever make shatter? Its so easy. I never knew alcohol melts trichomes. Now i dont cry over trim or larfey weed i just melt n filter it, dry n smoke with a jet flame
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@GYOweed, I am eye balling a rosin press. I am running out of space. Grinding weed save some space. But making shatter would save some more. And yes! the part I don't like about growing is trimming work. Making shatter makes sense to me.
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 254 years ago
Looking great ! @Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
🙏 @Ferenc, the tropic slowly is natural home to Zamaldelica
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 114 years ago
Another adventure on your hands here med, it’s a shame you can’t get an ultra sound like for a baby to determine the sex!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
😀😀😀 @Shooey, oh I so wish! As it is, i give up on the waiting for clones to tell me their gender. They are still vegging after three weeks. I can't fight mother nature out door. 😅 Gonna put the mother plants into flower this week end. The plants are big, If any is male it will be a pollen storm if I am not careful.
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 294 years ago
Great job! @Med_in_Tropic
JP148
JP148commentedweek 15 years ago
Good luck with your coming grow. 🌱👌🏻Thanks for look in.👍
Smartie
Smartiecommentedweek 254 years ago
Yoghurt?? 🤓 Very detailed read sir, well done 👍 Seems like your weather is way more challenging to grow outdoors by the looks of it, plants look happy regardless imo✌️
Smartie
Smartiecommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I see, thanks for that!! 👍 If I get to -3 weeks from harvest I would be a happy man 😂 Cheers lad ✌️
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
No @Smartie I don't give yogurt through the entire grow. It would be too expensive. I only feed three weeks toward the end. Counting backward from expected harvest. I fed yogurt on week -3, week -2, and week -1, last week is no feeding. I also chase pot size up. I don't put small plants in big pot. Too much rain here and it flushes goodness away. So, any extra yogurt left , I feed to plants that I am about to be change pot. Newly transplanted plants already have fresh earth worm casting in.
Smartie
Smartiecommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I see 😉 Thanks for the info mate, I'll keep it in the back of my head 👍 I suppose you give yoghurt throughout the growing season? ✌️
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HighRoller909
HighRoller909commentedweek 154 years ago
finally showing gender.half of the way
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@GYOweed, ya it had been a month since you reported your harvest. Imagine that it is well cured. Enjoy! Good luck with your S1. Have you tried Miracle Berry? A bit more indica but really stink. LOL
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, im smoking it now lol. Mine wasnt loud but its potent and more pefume like than weed. I made S1 selfies, 2 are growing look totally different too which makes sense
HighRoller909
HighRoller909commented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I see. I sometimes get paranoidbut not too much.Especially if I smoke in daytime.I think everyone will get I'm high :D.Panama here can make people paranoid,racy weed.But in general,I love warm,giggly,pressure around eyes feeling, love Sativas.I'll be ordering zamal auto from Ace. Along with some other strains.I don't like indica high,I can still function but the next day is always a pain.Energetic,clear,talkative high I prefer. If I had opportunity,I would definitely go for outdoor,only 1-2 plants but this would be great for me
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HighRoller909
HighRoller909commentedweek 75 years ago
this is gonna be huge
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, yea lollipopping helps
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
😅😀😀😅 @HighRoller909,
HighRoller909
HighRoller909commented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, strange critters like flying man sized bats? lol
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GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 284 years ago
Ive had luck using 6-bap to shorten a sativa at flip and mid flower. im still playing with the dosage
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented4 years ago
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@GYOweed, much thanks for timing and dosage. Also, from this grow small pot definitely is better for Zamaldelica. But it work better if you make clones. I’tt try your nap technique after June with Golden Tiger
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, playing with 6-bap at flip it seems 50-100ppm foliar one time is enough to reduce stretch and start onset of bud earlier and that's what i have noticed.
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Smartie
Smartiecommentedweek 244 years ago
Woow, nice garden 😲👏
Smartie
Smartiecommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I was trying some sarcasm there 😂 I play around a bit with lux to let pictures pop a bit more but I'm not using any filter.. Rest assured I have mess laying around, just not taking pictures from it 🤣
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@Smartie, you are too humble. I did see filter effect on leaf color vs rice husk. But your arrangement is very neat and very clean. As for me, I leave sacks of worm casting everywhere.
Smartie
Smartiecommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, It's all about the right angle, proper lighting and heaps of insta filters 😂👍
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GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 95 years ago
I put bright solar flood lights aimed at my weed I bred at night since march. They stay on for a good few hours. I am going to experiment yanking them maybe August 1st here in 36 N (same as spain and mazar i shariff i think) maybe like a clone the quick loss of hours will make me 1-2 months ahead in flower...Ill see in September. Do you have natural 12/12 year round right?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@GYOweed, Zamal Delica seemed to be sensitive to light. A few hours of week light keeps them in veg. I think that I get pistils only because it had been raining for three weeks straight. Same behavior as South East Asian land races. My native land cannabis starts to flower in July but keep growing fox tails between rain bouts. Happy growing brother.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, my manipulation seemed to have made them stretch and make flower shaped internodes but no pistils yet. If i see a pistol august 15 it means i beat waiting unit last September to see one.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@GYOweed, thanks for the lollipop comment. I’ll trim the bottom a little bit. 🙏
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Clutch
Clutchcommentedweek 184 years ago
A great looking outdoor grow again🙂💪 Keep up the beautiful work, I like to read through your diaries. Happy growing buddy
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@Clutch, I found stem splitting makes final buds aging ripen more uniformly. I don’t think it will speed over all things up. More like the end game move. I do it on my long flowering Sativa. These usually have fox tail and generate new flowers on some branches. Split stems kills the root. As plant is in the death throe, they squeeze out final trichome stretch and younger fliers stow growing. Stem splitting doesn’t do much with Indica. Indica store so much soare food in leaves and stem. And they are quick. And auto’s died on their own clock anyway.
Clutch
Clutchcommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I just read through the description here. 11 to 14 weeks of flowering 😮 pretty long. Maybe the stem splitting in final week can speed things up a bit? I'm thinking about doing it too this year.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
By the way @Clutch, I’ll finish Zamaldelica when Th stem splitting. Seemed like it’s a die hard strain.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 244 years ago
It’s all happening in the yard at the moment mate, you’ve got your hands full there! Plant 2 clone looks like a real beauty. 👍
Shooey
Shooeycommented4 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, yes mate. Great to get the guided tour. I will send you another garden vid soon as we are moving into spring and a have replaced the winter veg with some varieties for the warmer months. I have finally beaten off those rats too!!! All the best to you and the family med
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
Only you know how many plants that I have going @Shooey. 😀😀😀😀😀 I have to do guerrilla drying and trimming at a secret place.
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 284 years ago
Do you still have some Zamal in your garden?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@sativaman, yes I do 😀😀😀 I end up keping clone of only one pheno. Have a big plant that should be finished in a couple of weeks. And I have stop feeding her nutes already. Next week will be only molasses. Also have two plants in 7 liters that is supposed to be six weeks away but I may not let them go the full length.
NaturalMystic
NaturalMysticcommentedweek 284 years ago
คงอร่อยหอมหวนกัญเลยทีเดียว 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago
@NaturalMystic, กลิ่นมะม่วง ผสมกับลูกนัทครับ เป็นกลิ่นที่ไม่คุ้น แต่กลิ่นไม่แรงมาก หลอนๆคล้ายของไทย แต่มึนมากกว่า สรุบไม่ต้องแสวงหาให้ไกล ถ้ามีเวลายาวๆปลูกหางกระรอกไปแหละ