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Week 1. Vegetation
5 years ago
2.54 cm
16 hrs
22 °C
6.5
40 %
20 °C
20 °C
18 °C
11 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 3
Epsom Salt 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.528 mll
5-12-26 Hydroponic - J.R. Peters, Inc.
5-12-26 Hydroponic 0.793 mll
Update: split diary per plant. Light wattage is split from what is written below between 2 plants. Pictures in week 2 show the vege area for crops. The vege light is actually 240W, but the portion dedicated to the crop vege plants amounts to 160W with some additional photons coming from other portion of vege area containing donors. The bloom box is split in half with (2) 240W LED fixtures. Vege area - roughly a 2'x2' space - bit maleable. It's sized based on bloom footprint it will fill. There's also an adjacent area that's slightly deeper to fit the donor plants in same tent/box structure. I run this on a 16/8 light cycle to save electricity, and the plants still have more time than neccessary to grow to size. My strength of light is minimal needed to keep nodes spaced properly, nothing more. If i am short on time, i can alaways bump up the hours of light, as long as it remains under the maximum DLI without CO2. Bloom box - Roughly a 5'x2.5' space. Just some circulating fans inside and an exhaust setup. It is always filled -- even on harvest day, those plants get replaced immediately (a well-timed perpetual garden). I run this on a 12.5/11.5 light schedule. This is based upon my light's umol/s output as well as the area of the box. This should be near the upper limit of photons the plants can handle without CO2 per square footage that exists while making proper use of DLI chart. Everything has a cause and reason, otherwise you are likely misusing your equipment. Nutrients are grams per gallon of dry fertilizer -- that is not an option above. For nearly a year I stuck to 3.6g:2.4g:1.2g, and then tried a bit less magnesium sulfate (espom), but I run into no issues with current genetics by dialing back a bit. The molarity of feed that results from 3g, 2g, 1g remains the same throughout vegetative and bloom cycles, but I dose with pH-only water to offset evaporation -- more often earlier due to oversized pot, and rarely after 3 weeks into bloom when it is drinking like a sailor on shore leave. (molarity, not ppm matters relative to how the plant will use it -- or any living thing or any chemical reaction anywhere at all times -- molarity or moles and not grams or ppm which only tells a portion of the story by itself. You can determine molarity from ppm, by making use of a periodic chart and basic algebra) 3-gallon fabric pots with a roughly 5" layer of hydroton topped with roughly 6" of coco coir mixed with 10-20% perlite. A slightly modified hempy setup with a dripline airstone underneath the fabric pot while placed in a short 9-qt bucket about 7" tall -- maintains benefits of the fabric pot and a much larger liquid reservoir than a typical hempy with increased oxygenation. Early on the reservoir remains moist/dry until the plant is large enough to pull from it. A layer of hydroton on the outside provides the fill line. I transition from top-feeding to bottom-feeding once it is drinking heavily from reservoir. The from-seed GG4xWW is already 7 days from sprout as of today (Sunday, 5/10). The Durban poison is a fresh cutting today. The seed will require major pruning to fit 1/4th of bloom box, since it has 39 days.. Pictures are up.
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsstarted grow question 5 years ago
If i have a constant current driver and manipulate "Io" dial, does it reduce wattage from wall or merely output? If it doesn't reduce wattage, i'd rather use distance to weaken light, if the extra watts are just turned to heat. (Meanwell hlg 240h-c type A)
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 5 years ago
Yes it will reduce the wattage. that Io dial controls the current and Vo controls the voltage. It does not matter which one you turn and it will reduce the wattage, but I prefer to set voltage max and control current 'cos in my head it sounds better option. 👌
NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsstarted grow question 5 years ago
New lights and need advice on distance from canopy at various stages. After a few hours I got some minor light burn, so I raised it to 30". Roughly 100umol/s per square foot in bloom area and 50% & 75% of that in vege area (more spacing-2 halves). Experience would help greatly.
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 5 years ago
i had a similar experience with my new leds , turns out i could have them at 60cm high with no stretch, now when i do the math i see i could probably have the same environment but twice as many plants per light as the last grow. Bottom line is that it's less a matter of pure science in the home grow and more a matter of feeling, just keep adjusting until you find the balance that your grow needs. Think of it this way : anyway you need to adjust weekly and sometimes daily as the plant grows, so might as well start responding to that now. Hope this helps ! 🚀
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Week 2. Vegetation
5 years ago
5.08 cm
16 hrs
22 °C
6.5
50 %
20 °C
20 °C
18 °C
11 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 3
Epsom Salt 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.528 mll
5-12-26 Hydroponic - J.R. Peters, Inc.
5-12-26 Hydroponic 0.793 mll
Update - any information pertaining to Durban Poison is now in separate diary or soon to be. They are sharing lights throughout process, so splitting the wattage between them. Well, new lights torched the vege area for roughly half a day in total. I'll use a cheap lux meter to determine tolerable strength and notate for various stages of growth -- it is proportional in that context, but not useful for much else. Built some simple pedestals that can stack. Vegetative and Bloom canopies are evened out within 3.5" at worst. GGxWW doesn't seem stalled due to torching and the clone has visible roots before end of first week (ggxww seeds certainly don't clone that fast). Transplanted GGxWW seedling to the 3-gal setup mentioned in week 1. It's a little oversized, but i'll mix in a dose of pH-water occasionally. The reservoir won't be filled until the plant can drink it down before any bad growth can occur. This is a bit of a new process for me, so I'll be taking notes as to when this occurs to avoid trial-and-error in future grows of clones, not unlike learning the new lights. The day before transplanting the ggxww seedling, I knocked it off its upturned solo cup pedestal. I lightly watered to reset soil around roots. Even so, it seems to have transplanted well. Probably should have given it more time to recover, but as it was the taproot was beginning to circle the bottom of the cup after 13 days from sprout. The thermometers and hergrometers are all incredibly inaccurate. e.g. The 17.7C shown in picture is probably closer to 19.2C, if I recall correctly. At one time i used an accurate thermometer to guage. The humidity is similar. Basically, split the difference between what is seen and that's the +/- error of these crap devices.
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Week 3. Vegetation
5 years ago
16 hrs
24 °C
6.5
55 %
21 °C
11 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 3
Epsom Salt 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.528 mll
5-12-26 Hydroponic - J.R. Peters, Inc.
5-12-26 Hydroponic 0.793 mll
What happened with the GGxWW from-seed plant this week... What you see in the donor half is what i'll be doing to the ggxww plant soon. Top and remove a couple leaves. The GB-donor is middle and against the wall. It was done 2 or 3 days before the rest of them. Took off 1+ node at top (+= portion of new growth too) and 6 strong auxiliary buds should grow out. If the top 2 are a bit immature, it allows the lower ones time to catch up. The GB-donor has 2-3 nodes on the auxiliary buds now. It's a little mound of growth! Growing well after transplant. Allowing it to grow into light until I see a hint of a problem -- still adjusting for new lights. Setup airpump for vege area. Testing 1/4 reservoir next week. This is an indica strain, but all the seeds i’ve popped have skinnier hybrid leaves. I’ve germinated five different seeds of this strain and cloned two of them multiple times each. This will be a first-time experience with this partiuclar genetic lottery ticket, though. Hoping for a better taste. Typically, I LST. I’m doing something different this time in preperation for methods of growing i have less experience utilizing. So, I’ll be topping with the goal of 8-10 equally strong auxiliary bud growth. I want 30-40 strong colas per 1/2 bloom box or 4 plants. I’ll systematically get there in a predictable and consistent way with more information that only takes time to gather. Unfortunately, that doesn’t sync up well with alotted time for this cycle. So, this plant may get ugly with a couple extra weeks of growth that won’t be helpful. I may end up pruning it back needlessly, but that is better than an overcrowded mess when it blooms. June will have 4 new genetics I’ve never grown before. Getting all the bloom lengths alternating to maximize bloom box utilization will require 1 crop each to learn -- no empty spaces in bloom box (well, fully minimized anyway)! Except immediately following a harvest to clean and otherwise maintain, which is only a few hours. Luckily, i will have 2 practice attempts on the newer donor-plants progressing toward relevance, and if they are ugly it doesn’t impact their function as they will never be flowered. i think 4-6 to start and pruning can make that 8-10 by the time growth stops. Will have very limited time to grow these. May need to start with 6-8 and no time to prune later. Check out some photos this week about Daily Light Integral (DLI). Shows a quick way to determine PAR, even if you don’t have an exact M^2 area. You do need to know the total number of umol/s your lights produce. If not optimally placed, must also reduce a bit for any reflection you depend upon and other inefficiencies between the photons leaving light source and hitting plant... or just plain missing it. I also put up a higher-res leaf-symptom chart than the typical one you see out there. “Save image as..” keep them for reference. Right click any image and "save as" ... May need to "view image" first, if it doesn't save the full resolution image for you.
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Week 4. Vegetation
5 years ago
16 hrs
24 °C
6.5
70 %
21 °C
11 L
Nutrients 3
Epsom Salt 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.528 mll
5-12-26 Hydroponic - J.R. Peters, Inc.
5-12-26 Hydroponic 0.793 mll
Best-laid plans of mice and men... Topped and removed a couple leaves. 24 hours later can tell i didn’t shock the plant, so all is well. Bit worried about removing both leaves near top. Thankfully, those auxiliary buds are growing vigorously regardless, and the canopy remained roughly the same area at the time of trimming/topping. Leaves are getting massive. Lower growth is slightly showing its age. I'll train the axes with more growth out 24" long. The other axes needs to remain closer to 12" wide. I'm keeping the top 2 nodes bent down when I irrigate as the others are nearly even. After a little more growth i'll top anything with a couple nodes that is growing out on the 24" axes. I try to skip a node when i prune. Send everything out one way or the other and let auxiliary growth fill middle. Clean it up as neccessary. Train as neccessary to maintain rate of growth i want in various areas of future canopy. Pictures show before and after topping. Newer pictures show the growth since that point and through completion of 4th week. Just in a few days the canopy is significantly different. Growth is nearly balanced out by height. Great thing about this plant is it stays pliable for a while. Bad thing about this plant is it stay pliable for a while LoL! Can get floppy with bigger plants in bloom. Not 100% i'll stick to thes plan, but it sounds good today. The end goal remains the same. Both plants need to be roughly 12”x24” when they go into bloom area to fill out the space. So far all the phenotypes of GGxWW are very much alike when it comes to growth patterns. Auxiliary growth simply is inevitable with it and it happens quickly. The width will be difficult to maintain. The side with fewer auxiliary growths will need to be stalled a bit while the other axes of plant grows out. This will not be an efficient grow. Wasted time for sure during vege. This will be much easier with 4 plants in the same space. Had i thought about it more, i would have LST'd from the beginning. Had a bright idea i'd learn something i already know - the behaviour of the plant after you prune it. Still adjusting lights a bit in vege area. Going to push vege area a bit harder and see how it responds. +10% intensity started Friday(5/29). At end of week (5/31) it seems okay so far. Little droop for final 30-45mins before lights out, so maybe too much? Wouldn't expect them to rest that long in a healthy cycle, but could be wrong in that guess. Looking into some super phosphates. I’d like to bump P for this and future grows. My bloom canopies are strong but can be better, and I think this is the culprit.
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Week 5. Vegetation
5 years ago
16 hrs
24 °C
6.5
70 %
21 °C
11 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.185 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.238 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.449 mll
June 1 - Did some topping today. Basically, anything with 2+ nodes of growth off apical meristem was topped above that 2nd node. A couple auxiliary shoots could not be topped. Really doesn't look much differently afterward, but the end of week certainly will. June 3 - Got the other auxiliary shoots topped. Haven't paid as much attention since June 3. Just filling reservoir every day or two. June 5 - 0-46-0 Triple Superphosphate (calcium dihydrogen phosphate) was added to nutrient mix and dialed in with spreadsheet displayed for the week. Some auxiliary shoots are responding already. I need to stop being lazy and take a more interested approach soon, lol. Hopefully by Sunday the pictures will show a different story. June 6 - Did a little bending. They were not bent for pictures. That picture is 24 hours later. At some point i removed a couple leaves that didn't impact canopy coverage and eliminated stretch on some auxiliary shoots. I removed one too many off a shoot near center, but if it slows down growth in tha tarea for a moment, that's a useful accident. For the first time only utilizing topping, i kinda like it. More organized than LST and even if it takes a modicum longer or not, it's irrelevant to my perpetual grow logistics. Overlap of up to 3 weeks gives up to roughly 50-some days to work with before they need to hit bloom box without cuasing a cluster in the vege area (I can't do rudimentary math, if you read that before). These can go into bloom box within 2-3 days, but may give them a few extra days. We'll see how long they are. Width is still doable at moment. This is going to be a suck grow. Only flowering the DP out of spite...refuse to give up seeds for nothing, lol. New nutrient formula going forward. PPM and molarity is listed in this week's pictures. This began Friday, June 5. The first 2gallon tank used excessive calcium. Everything looks fine two days later, though. Added pictures of my bloom box design (sketchup is fun) for sh%$s and grins. An overview of entire vege and bloom areas is also included.
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Week 6. Vegetation
5 years ago
16 hrs
24 °C
6.5
70 %
21 °C
11 L
1 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.185 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.238 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.449 mll
Last Vegetative Week Well, this week is a bit short. The fifth day of 6th week will be the last on the 16/8 light cycle. Tomorrow I will move them into the bloom box after harvesting plant. I'll probably start at 24" to avoid any floppiness as it acclimates itself to much more intense light. I'll even it up with other half of box's canopy for a nice even blanket of photons as quickly as it allows. I have a screenshot of notes. Did some last bit of pruning and removed a couple leaves. Bit worried this one has a creeping problem. It's never looked quite right. If my coco grows don't improve, i'll be throwing this trash coco coir out. My soil grows were more vigorous early on, which isn't right. Later on the plants are fantastic in coco, so i think it's the CE sites of the coco not being in a good ratio and possibly Na+ being a bit high. I've done some extra preperation with next batch. Unfortunately, I bought 2 bricks. This one might be tossed sooner than it is used up. I'm going to feed with extra runoff early on to try to get them into proper ratio as quickly as possible in ensuing grows. If it works, i'll make due...
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Week 7. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
24 °C
6.5
55 %
21 °C
11 L
1 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.264 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.211 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.555 mll
Update: So, this week is completed now. Added pictures of day 49 (9 days of bloom). Added notes of what i did this week. ------ In the bloom box on day 40 from germination. This is slow as f%k. Not happy with this grow, but it's self-inflicted due to being a cheapskate. I won't mention the brand here, but FFS... How do you sell a product for growing plants that is toxic for plants to live in? WTF?! I've borked my grows since november, which is when I switched to this PoS coco coir brand that sickens plants if you use it as directed. To be clear, coco coir is awesome. Some companies are not. I washed the hell out of next batch and buffered nearly twice as long. If the new diaries with 4-clones takes a downturn I'm throwing it all out the coir ("kwar", it's a french word, even brits say "kwar" and they hate frogs deeply). 40 days should take up a 3'x3' area on its own.. not 1/3rd of that. In 6 months I may be back in soil. Heck my 3x re-used soil produced better than this coco coir. Good choice for my first diary.. BWAHAHA Okay, I had some adding problems in last spreadsheet, so i remade it and resulting ppms of feed are given. If anyone whats the spreadsheet: -- deprecated.. the liquid portion was bad... if you want it for dry ferts, let me know. The two forum posts i was using did opposite things of what they said, then of each other, lol.. so, divide by SG or multiply by SG lol... I don't have liquid ferts and not putting anymore time into that.
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Week 8. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
24 °C
6.5
Weak
55 %
21 °C
11 L
2 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.264 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.211 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.555 mll
Through Day 55 Total / 15 of Bloom Continued to bend the ~2 taller shoots down, and they are now not so much taller. Still at least another week of vegetative growth left. Defoliated on Saturday, Jun 27. I did not remove much from this plant. 1 vertical shoot in a crowded area (should have bent it down and under for hash larf). Remoeved a few leaves underneath, and pruned off a 2-3 axillary growths down below as well as 1 or 2 buried in canopy and not going to grow anything of note. A day early, but i took the pictures after defoliation. Close enough.
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Week 9. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
11 L
2 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.079 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.132 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.581 mll
Day 63 / Day 23 Bloom Well, another week of flower, and this plant is looking healthy. Still have some burnt tips showing, but not progressing. Think I've got that back under control, now. I've reduced PPM of my feed due to concern about my hard water, but the impetus was the utter nosedive my donor plants took and the overall health of my crop plants in vege. Turns out i accidentally left my lights on a 24/0 cycle since Jun 24th. It may not look like it in my other diaries, but the donors have really recovered over the last couple days. I did not recognize the problem until July 2nd. The donors have major leaf symptoms that likely won't heal, but they are trending in the right direction. The crop half of the vege area was floppy AF for the duration and started to show deficiency issues closer to July 2nd. If i hadn't walked in there around 12am one night, i'd still be confused about what was going wrong. So, back to normal, but I am going to stick with the reduced PPM. After reviewing old soil grows, i see i had to take a break from a regular feeding schedule a couple months in due to buildup. I typically have to add a little pH-only with the coco grows later on too. Reduced P from ~100ppm to ~60. This is still a 20% increase over Jacks 3.6/2.4/1.2 instructed formula. Overal the formula went from 720-some to 630-some + my hard water which likely has a ton of Ca at the least. You can read my daily notes and incoherent ramblings with missing information at times in the picture of the digital clipboard for that plant. This plant is making me happy. I feel confident it will remain a strong, green canopy for the duration -- this time! Damn you cheap coco coir! Based on what i see from the new 4-plant crop, I think the more intense preperation made a significant impact on the health of those plants early on -- as with this one, but it wasn't as rigorously prepared. This one still has some awkwardness and a slowdown early on, but not as pronounced as the previous ~3-4 plants that took 30-40 days for a clone to root and grow or similarly long delays from seed. At this point, it's a healthy substrate. The plant is praying. It's a much darker color than what my pictures under my grow lights present. (but not too dark, lol). Still some minor clawing. Will continue a little extra pH dosage each day until that abates.
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Week 10. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
11 L
2 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.079 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.132 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.581 mll
Fairly uneventful week in the bloom box. May have some toxicity going or may be phosphorous deficient. The red in stems is almost certainly genetic as ever seed has shown this and the DP being fed the same way has absolutely no sign of P-deficiency. Overall, both plants are on autopilot at this point. Buds are stacking up nicely for day 30 of bloom on this plant. She's going to get pleasantly plump.
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Week 11. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
60 %
22 °C
11 L
2 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.053 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.555 mll
11th week total and 5th week of bloom is complete. Pretty much on autopilot at this point. Reversed course on my nute formula in use since middle of June. Don't know why i tried to complicate it. In the past the incstructed values worked nearly perfectly and only need a little dilution. I am boosting P by about 10-15% above instructed values, but the molar ratios of other elements have remained the same as at a higher concentration, for the most part. Part A and Part B are not quite proportional to original instructed values, but within a tenth of a gram of being proportional. Watering AM and PM. It's drinking entire reservoir in about 8 hours. No longer ~1/2 gallon capacity at this point, but still 2x capacity of a regular hempy bucket's reservoir. Newer plants in bloom area are still 1/day irrigations. Not very impressed with trichome production on this plant compared to previous seeds of same strain. Lots of time left in that regard. I do like the development of the plant, overall. I think the buds didn't thicken as much as i expected, but a 150+g harvest is still likley from this fairly small plant.
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Week 12. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
60 %
22 °C
11 L
2 L
58.42 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.053 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.555 mll
GGxWW - 12 weeks total / 44 nights of bloom Jul 20 - Bunch of f%$^ing nanners. Ripped out 5-7. Mostly on top, so I raised lights a bit in middle. Ffs, I started another of these nightmare seeds in the solo cup challenge, too. The last one I’m giving to someone I don’t like, or throwing it outside next summer and see if it survives. I hope it does not. Jul 21 - Well, I don’t see a bunch of new nanners. Hopefully raising light a tad helped. Since the box has been full, ~25-27C and 60%RH. Temperature has gone down, humidity has slightly increased. I can only guess because volume reduced. I’m surprised by the temp. Jul 22 - Found more nanners. Raised lights a bit more. Historically with this seed line, this only results in 5-10 seeds and possibly none whatsoever, so I’m not so concerned about it. I’ll double check undercarriage, but think it was relegated to the top colas. Light-related? Jul 23 - Nearing 6 weeks of bloom. These have all been very consistent with their bloom length. Jul 24 - Didn’t check for nanners in AM. Do so in PM. Think it was light-related. Lower lux now. Jul 25 - Raised lights to 23” from most colas. Nanners stopped, but to be safe if near ‘edge.’ Jul 26 - Still no nanners. Fairly certain it was caused by the lights at this point. Week 12 completed. Pictures are from end of week.
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Week 13. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
60 %
22 °C
11 L
2 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.053 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.555 mll
GGxWW 91 days / 51 days 12-12 Jul 26 - Nanners stopped - very likely light-related. Jul 27 - Development looks on time for ~9 weeks. 49 nights is Jul 31. Jul 28 - Late developer compared to DP (excludes me burning stigma at top). Colors coming out. Jul 29 - Give a good nanner check in envening. Jul 30 - Still looking clear. Looks like taking off too many leaves won’t negatively impact much. Been 2 weeks since last pH-only irrigation. May spritz this half’s reservoirs. Lowered plant to ground level. Still raised off cement floor, of course. Jul 31 - Looks quite advanced for 49 days, but nothing like the Durban Poison plant. Trichomes a bit later on this one compared to A2 seed, but seem to be filling out well. Everything is under 30k lux now. May have some 30-32k peak areas. Keep forgetting to scope triches. Aug 1 - Based on lack of stretch on other plants, nanners on this one and some other coinciding factors, I think the plants were getting too much relative to ambient co2 levels. The entire box looks happier. Yellowing leaves below, but canopy is strong enough. Late evening see continued spiraling at top and not all the 'better' kind. I see 2-3 without a thorough scan that are spindly trash I'll cut off when I trim. Some new growth, but nothing like what i had at end of previous seed of same strain.
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Week 14. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
60 %
22 °C
11 L
2 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.053 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.555 mll
Completed day-night cycles = days below unless phrased as "Nth day" 91 / 51 Days - No notes, e.g 52nd day in progress 92 / 52 Days - Almost looks ripe with an eye. Still many glassy trichomes. 93 / 53 Days - Didn’t check in PM. Fine in AM 94 / 54 Days - Getting out of the prognostication business. This one has progressed quickly. Found a nanner, but canopy is clean otherwise. Senescence in full effect. Lower leaves are nosediving. Since it’s going downhill so quickly, will continue to feed as it clearly is in need of essential elements. 5-10% amber in top colas. By the eye, I see stigma retracting and nearing end. Whether much better lighting or the seed itself, this is faster than previous grows of same strain. Thinking 3-5 days more at the most, but wtf do I know. These girls like to screw with my head. (well, multiple post-op hermie, anyway). 95 / 55 Days - Still patchy on the amber trichomes and too many are glassy. Lower leaves dying off. It can’t be too far away. Holding off flush over concerns for the canopy performing its function. 96 / 56 Days - 8 completed weeks this AM. Significant development overnight. Fostiness still increasing. Hoping it continues to frost over with another layer. Approaching sexy. Beginning flush on ggxww. The development that’s happened over the last week has been surprising. Glad it jumped up on me or I may have flushed too early. The undercarriage is nearly depleted. The canopy isn’t looking the greatest. Still a lighter green where it matters most. (Began flush night of 96/56) 97 / 57 Days - Expected canopy to take a nosedive. So far only the undercarriage is depleted. Canopy has been on edge, but my perceptions due to grow lights are skewed toward the negative. Regardless, ggxww is lighter than the other plants under same lights; DP to lesser extent. Thinking 3-5 days but if it stretches to 7 wouldn’t be surprised. Want to push 30-50% amber any locale I inspect. Green poison’s growth may force my hand slightly. Side note -- some burnt tips likely from over abundance of P early on as they did not worsen much after formula was adjusted. Avoided spots and crispiness whether K-def, or lockout of Mg/Ca etc etc. Think the slight dilution of nutes has worked well since Jul 15. Experiment with ~80-100ppm P didn’t prevent red petioles and caused problems, otherwise. When I bump mag-sulfate too much, it doesn’t end well. So, I think the current formula is closer to what I want as a baseline. Red petioles are nearly impossible to avoid under LED it seems. Future #1, and others, may need slight adjustments, of course. These 2 need to finish quickly... but an extra day or two of vegetative growth can always be ameliorated with some extra pruning.
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Week 15. Flowering
5 years ago
12 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
60 %
22 °C
11 L
2 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 4
Calcium Dihydrogen Phosphate 0.053 mll
Magnesium Sulfate 0.264 mll
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate - J.R. Peters, Inc.
15-0-0 Hydroponics Calcium Nitrate 0.555 mll
Chopped down during week 15, these are the last of the daily notes: 98 / 58 Days - Continuing flush and canopy is still strong. Remove any lower leaves that come off with a gentle tug. Some purple did show up in fan leaves, albeit late to the show. 99 / 59 Days - If I’m going to shift gears, tomorrow will be the last day to delay flush ramifications. 100 / 60 Days - Sticking with flush for both as long as leaves exist. May not get to 50% amber, but I don’t prefer being falling asleep when I smoke. When you come down from a stimulant you get tired, regardless. 101 / 61 Days - Some good development the last 24 hours. Fortunate, because the canopy is now officially decimated. Beyond a slight fade with a hint of red on a couple. Possible chop tomorrow. Reassess in PM. If still drinking healthily, may give it one more day. I don’t know if better lights produced better bud, but it cost less for same yield. PM - continued excellent progression. Likely harvest tomorrow. Point of no return for this one, really. 102 / 62 Days Completed - Chopped her down.
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Week 15. Harvest
5 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Gorrila Glue #4 × White Widow - Expert Seeds
Spent 106 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
7/10
Rated
800 g
Bud wet weight per plant
157 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
0.29
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

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Olfactory Review - I smell chocolate early on in drying process and while i trim. with this strain. I do not taste it, and it goes away later on. Otherwise, floral scents and a little spicy. It's a nice rich smell. Always makes amazing flavored bubble hash. Taste Review - GGxWW tasted a bit like it normally tastes… spicy and I don’t even know how to describe it.. I guess earthy. While it isn’t a bad tasting flower, it just isn’t my preference. Density is good. Other seeds have been more compact, but these are more than sufficiently tight. No ovules so the entirety of old GGxWW harvests are now in the hash bag, and good riddance to that nonsense. My ‘extra’ cough is going away by the day. Yield Review - Good Yielding plant. In a 30"x30" area I would expect to push 320-350g under my current 240w setup with 4 smaller plants. As this donor no longer exists in my garden, this is highly unlikely to occur. I have 1 seed left and it's getting old. Conclusion / thoughts Some healthy-sized top colas. I like the top cola proportion of total weight - not as good as DP, but much improved from previous runs of this strain. This reduced a lot of work trimming. These lights almost certainly reduced the leaf to bud ratio too -- specifically lower on plant, i.e. a deeper "good" bud zone resulted. Both plants look extra frosty compared to previous harvests. Even top bits of hash-bin portion were fairly tight. I'm happy with how this plant turned out. A little Mg deficiency exacerbated a genetic tendency for red stems and petioles. Usually the stems aren't quite as red with previous grows of GGxWW from seed, but it got plenty from Jul 15th on. Fade in canopy was perfect for harvest. I try to err on the side of some cushion. Learned a lot for this plant and look forward to applying that increased knowledge in the future. ---------------- Ramblings First crop powered from beginning of bloom until harvest by the new lights. After finding a nice sweet spot, things went smoothly. Nugs are fairly dense quite a ways down the stems. Yield is going to be more than acceptable from this plant. Two of these would clear 300g for sure in a 30x30 area. 1.5g/w is definitely attainable without CO2 added. If this isn't at least 150g I'll be shocked. ~120+g in top colas and 1+ oucnes of decent nugs, too. -- Early guesstiate, will update with a real dry weight. I lollipopped nearly all the larf. Nevertheless, more than an ounce added to the hash bin. Basically first 2-3 buds and anything that looked leafy and difficult to trim was added. As usual, I put a good amount of decent nugs into the hash bin. I threw out all trimmed leaves this time - just more likely to introduce chlorophyl to your bubble hash for a very low return for the hassle, imo. The hash bin, even good buds, are not included in the dry weight. If the scissor hash is anything to judge by, I'm looking forward to both of these strains. I was pretty clean with the scissors and only gave a thorough cleaning to the photographed buds. Gave my try at a 'nekkid' pre-harvest photo, so all the fan leaves were removed. This gave excellent angles without touching the plant - and some angles that were damn near impossible or required significant agitation of buds. It looks nice, but may only do it with certain plants in future. For example, the way I grew out Durban Poison made it impossible to trim the central. GGxWW was a little tough in the center area, but luckily the flush really decimated the canopy. Many simply pulled off with little effort and without slivers of material pulled down the stems. Updates on drying: Day 0 - Finally put a finger on the smell I couldn’t place.. diesel/gassy, duh Drying 1 Day - Drying is definitely slower this time (an intended goal). Think the plant had a higher water content at time of harvest, which is helping. Took 2 small nugs of each and got them dry enough to grind up - no ovules from what I can tell. I've thought that before early on before, though. Half-blunt tasted horrible, of course, but with enough hash on top that it didn’t bother me for long. While it was like smoking hay, I could think something harsh was missing due to unwanted familiarity lately. Drying 2 Days - Flipped the top colas after about 36 hours (last night). Checked a couple spots and definitely drying more slowly than last couple harvests. Hopefully, it is a good 7-10 day drying period before they are put into jars with 58% 2-way humidi-paks. The citrus smell is being replaced mostly by a gas/diesel smell on Durban Poison. GGxWW overpowers smell of DP in the room. Floral, fruity with some extra sweetness. Smell is based on touching a coated sugar leaf, as they both smell a bit like grassy-hay from a close distance on the third day. May have overestimated yield slightly? Either my memory is off or a bit more shrinkage than normal. Should still easily clear 8oz in total - nearly 3 entire levels could be filled if consolidated (36” Diameter). I’ll remove the lumber before weighing, too. End of day - nice and slow... Drying 3 Days - In the AM there is still softness/moisture to the top colas with an occasional dryer spot. Excellent! Smaller nugs are not much different. Drying is going well, so far. Much slower than previous 2-3 harvests. Drying 4 Days - 5th day ongoing and progressing well. Even the smaller bits have a ways. Those are bunched up more than the top colas to slow them down the last couple days. Well, so much for a slow dry. 14+ hours (ongoing) at 80F saw to that. Stems aren’t snapping. waiting until morning to jar. Humidity has dropped, but temp should fall into 70’s in that room. I’m not so worried. Long enough that it still breaks up like normal buds and the hay smell is 100% gone after 2 days drying. Drying 5 days - Can’t snap stems in morning… holding off longer. Currently can easily be broken up with scissors and smoked as a blunt without issue. Doubt a joint would stay lit. Should be cooler today, but due to some work being done in the house, it’s in the hottest room of house these last 2 days. Still bending in evening. May end up getting close to 7 days after all. Drying 6 days - After 6 full 24-hour cycles, buds snap off main stem, but larger stems don't snap. Tossed in jars with 58% two-way humidi-paks. They'll be burped each day, and I'll weigh the same top cola jar each morning until it remains the same weight. (for each strain, as they can dry differently) This should mostly ensure everything smaller is at equillibrium too. PM - Burped jars and inspected buds. Not much different on exterior. I don’t expect this to take long to reach final dry weight. Will only know in hindsight if it is currently curing. Drying days 7 - Burped again after 24 hours in the jars; not a significant change to exterior or weight of nugs. Minor sticking a little jiggle took care of. Placed horizontally for storage this time. I don’t expect weight to change tomorrow. 33/31g for DP and GgxWW, respectively (written to hundredths, but I don’t recall those digits). Those were top cola jars with that seemed to be the most likely not to be fully dry. Burped in evening. Spot check one of the jars... Drying 8 days - A GGxWW top cola jar weighed 31.62 grams and increased to 31.68 grams with 58% 2-way Boveda 8g pack after 24 hours. Being a negligible difference, I’m calling it “dry.” So, 157 grams overall, 122 of which are top colas. Total under 240w light fixture - 111+157 = 268 grams. Four of these plants in that same 30x30 space would perform better than the setup I used this time. Harvests starting in Oct and beyond will prove me correct or not.
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