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Coco Coir
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Cheeba_Inu Cheeba_Inu
4 years ago
As of day 14, the Blackberry Kush is still exhibiting it's abnormal leaf growth. I've only ever seen this on another genetically purple strain, so I am curious if there is a connection. If anyone has seen similar issues in their own plants let me know! It's growth hasn't been too bad, and I am sure it's going to continue to take off over the next week! I usually top my plants between day 14 and 21, so i am hoping it is growing vigorously enough to prevent any stunting. I haven't seen any adverse effects from temporarily switching to my plentiful dry cal-mag, so I am happy about that so far! I am still adding a similar EC worth of Cal mag (.5) so it's good to have dialed in a rough equivalent. I hope everyone is staying safe, and happy growing! 👍🌱 Day 15: the leaf growth continues to be very screwy, and even if it's at least partially a genetic issue I continue to triple check all my practices and parameters. The PH drifts up mildly in my reservoirs between cleaning/remixing of nutrients, but it is going from roughly a 5.8 up to a 6.2 (at worst) with no change in the EC/PPM. Between the lack of EC drift and lack of smell, I don't think there are any major bacterial issues. The outflow PH is also acceptable (5.8) and the outflow EC is around .2-.3 above inflow, which is also acceptable. I dug into the coco a little bit, and the medium is not oversaturated with water (it is always a bit "fluffy" with good drainage and never compacted) and the roots are white and healthy. With the healthy vigorous growth of the other Blackberry in the same conditions, it brings me back to this being at least partially a genetic issue. I looked through grow questions of other diaries for similar leaf issues, and it seemed that most were either blueberry or blackberry strains from a range of breeders. This could be purely a coincidence, but it does make me wonder. The grows with similar issues seemed to otherwise have no commonalities in how they were grown. I am going to keep trying my best with this plant regardless, so I hope it pulls through alright! Day 17: being very careful with my PH and keeping it a bit lower, to rule it out as a possible cause of the twisted leaves and less vigorous growth. I am keeping it between 5.5 and 6 for the time being to make sure there is no lock out of micro elements like boron. As per the comments, I am being more accurate be using a pH pen as opposed to drops which I may have misjudges. I topped the plant, which is definitely a risk! But I am hoping for some healthier leaves to come in, and the plant hasn't stunted so far! It has grown the number of nodes it should have for its age, it just not as filled in and lush as I would like it to be. Day 19: I have been monitoring PH especially carefully, taking a few measurements per day and keeping it between 5.6 and 5.8 (a little on the low side). The runoff is consistently under 6 as well. EC and other conditions have stayed where they should be as well. I reduced any PH drift by running the air pump for the res 24/7, instead of just for mixing and before fertigations to rule that out. But I haven't seen any overall improvements for the leaves so I am reverting back to my theory of a genetic issue with this particular plant. It's growing larger and it's stems are thickening, so I'm just going to keep it growing as well as I possibly can and see what it yields!
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Grow Questions
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inustarted grow question 4 years ago
The Blackberry Kush has been experiencing some twisted, deformed growth since it first germinated, while my Fastbuds Blackberry has been growing strong under the same conditions. Autofertigated buffered coco, 15-20% perlite mix. Runoff also 1.1ec. Just an issue of genetics?
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Leaves. Twisted
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ijustdontgiveaf
ijustdontgiveafanswered grow question 4 years ago
ok, in this case i agree that it shouldn't be an EC issue, so then i'd go with genetics.. Only if you see the same behavior with more grows in the same environment, i'd start looking into a possible root cause, but sometimes those one-offs just happen. happy growing!
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Ajwardy18
Ajwardy18week 3
I did experience something similar on my outdoor grow and it turned out to be wind burned. After looking through I did see that you sprayed your plants when lights are on and the water droplet may off rolled off the leaf and the streaks causing by the light itself, another could possibly be a PH as you did state it drifts from 5.8/6.2 which may off locked out a specific nutrient to causing the roots to lock or bound. And if your leafs are twisted and forming around a 90 degree angle then you're looking at broad mites, it doesn't seem like a calmag problem as calcium effects lower leafs to twisted whilst forming rust spots and magnesium causes the center leaves to yellow. One other I can think off may be a boron deficiency
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inu
@@@@Ajwardy18, thanks for sharing your experiences, I really appreciate it! I ruled out a lot of these issues such as wind burn, but I am now narrowing in on upward PH drift causing boron lockout. I think the symptomatic plant might be more genetically predisposed to the issue, and I had been using GH pH drops for a lot of my testing and I am honestly not that good at reading subtle color differences. I recalibrated my PH pen last night and found the reservoir had drifted up to a 6.6 over 3 days, probably from a 6.3 when the nutrients were mixed. I was misinterpreting the drops as being a 5.9-6.2 range. That would be enough to cause boron lockout if it has been happening throughout the grow! I definitely should have known better, but at least I am aware of it now and have corrected it! I am going to double check the pH a few times a day over the next week and see if I can begin to correct the issue and get healthier growth back. Happy growing! 👍🌱 Edit note: after 4 days of definitely spot on PH and EC, inflow and runoff, there really hasn't been a change in new growth. So I am reverting back to genetics or a mystery condition only affecting this one plant 🤷‍♀️🏻
Treighfunky
Treighfunkyweek 9
Looks awesome my friend. I'm still about a week behind you but my plants are not looking quite as luscious yet ;) Great job on this grow. Looking forward to next week. 👍
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inu
@Treighfunky, thanks! They have really grown like crazy, and now I feel like I have to get a bigger tent if I ever grow more than a single plant at a time! Your plants look nice and healthy, and are coming along well! 🌱👍
Pajersey13
Pajersey13week 9
damn! looking right! good job mang
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inu
@Pajersey13, thanks!
Treighfunky
Treighfunkyweek 6
Looks fantastic so far. I'm growing the same strain and about 2-3 week behind you. I'll be checking in on this grow to see how things progress for you. Best of luck 👍
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inu
@Treighfunky, thanks! Yours is nice and healthy, looks like it's coming along! 🌱👍
StoneyMelony
StoneyMelonyweek 3
Hey bro i did have had the same problem with my DP blackberry kush, Strange twisted growth. My other plants did fine so i think genetics. i did get rid of her. Hope this helps
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inu
@StoneyMelony, thanks for the heads up! It helps me not feel crazy, like I am missing something for the poor plant. I feel like this happens more when breeders breed for consistency in the unusual/recessive bud colors, but screwy traits and mutations become more common in the strain. At least the Blackberry by Fastbuds will fill in all the space this one struggles to take up!