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WhyNotA2 WhyNotA2
4 years ago
Things are going well this week. I topped Plant 1 two more times (both sides). I took off two largest fan leaves that were under main branches. I have supercropped two branches in an effort to beef up the top portion of Plant 1. Plant 2, I have softened up the stem by squeezing the plant in an effort to strengthen it. PPM for Plant 1 was at 450 beginning of week and Plant 2 was at 200. Plant 2 is recovering from root rot and is just now starting to grow again. Changed nutrient schedule mid week. 2.5 gallons for Plant 1 and used 11mL Gro, 6 mL bloom, 9 mL Micro, 5 mL diamond nectar, 4 mL rapid start, 4 mL Cal - Mag and 1mL Floralicious Plus. Plants immediately responded positively to the reservoir changes. Plant 1 grew about an inch overnight. PPM for Plant 1 is at 500 PPM. Thoughts or suggestions are appreciated to improve my grow.
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Grow Questions
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2started grow question 4 years ago
I used rainwater with ppm of 15-18 and mixed 8 gallons with 18 ml of GHE Bloom, Gro and Micro with 4 ml of CalMag. Both buckets have new PPM of 350-390. Is that too aggressive for day 9? Or can I push more? New to DWC and growing and hoping for some applied knowledge. Thanks
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Bloombuster
Bloombusteranswered grow question 4 years ago
Привет, бро! 👋😇 Дождевая вода в DWC? Братан, ты уверен, что ты не сильно сэкономил на основе - воде? Ты уверен что она без лишней органической жизни? Потому что это может стать проблемой в DWC. Это почву или даже кокос можно было бы поливать дождевой, но это же DWC, там корни должны быть в стерильной чистоте! Ты эту воду проверял? Она не быстро цветёт? Я не знаю что тут советовать, брат! Если у тебя индика - до 400ppm на первой неделе.... если сатива - до 350ppm на первой неделе.... Как вырастут 3 пары листьев, можешь сделать до 600ppm и до 500ppm (индика или сатива). PPM с коэффициентом 0,5! Это важно! 😇👆 Удачи, друг! 😇✊
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2started grow question 4 years ago
For plant 1 of my DWC, I had 410 PPM two days ago. My resevoir now is at 440. She is slightly yellow and a tad droopy. Is the rising of PPM by 30 an indication of nutrient lock? If its nute lock, does this require peroxide water to flush? How long do people flush? Thx in advance
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Chucky324
Chucky324answered grow question 4 years ago
Hello. you have a very young plant there. They should be a bit bigger before full hydro treatment. Give more plain water then nuts at this point. I water twice then feed then more water. I think you are trying to make it do more than it can. Funny, in about 6 weeks you won't be able to slow it down. Good Luck. Chuck.
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2started grow question 4 years ago
My plants are on Day 14 and have started to have some leaves twist and taco a little. I lowered the water level thinking that it was probably because the rockwool was too damp. Does this train of thought sound right? Am I overanalyzing and these look fine or something else? Thx
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
60% RH is pretty high when you grow in water. Better seeing as you have water under your plant to try to get you RH down around 40% and see if the leaves straighten out. Like using a bubble cloner, you dont need a dome over your girls. Cheers friend
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2started grow question 4 years ago
In DWC growing, chillers are really expensive and frozen water bottles you need to replenish kind of frequently. Does anyone currently use any insulation for their 5 gallon buckets? Do you have a rough estimate of how many degrees it cooled your bucket? Doing a temp study. Thanks
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grzesiekkuzniak
grzesiekkuzniakanswered grow question 4 years ago
i do.............................you dont wanna go over 25 C
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2started grow question 4 years ago
Can you use a foliar spray made from organics (fulvic and humid acid, potash, sea kelp, wetting agent) in a DWC? Or is using any organic material more trouble than it's worth? Is week 3 too early for foliar spraying? Hoping to green my thumb a bit. Thanks
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Psilocubensis
Psilocubensisanswered grow question 4 years ago
The upper part has no relation with the technique below, as far as I researched. So if you wish, and if your climate conditions inside the tent allow it without problems, you may do so! Care with the dosage, it seems to have a great amount of Hum. Acid. on it!
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2started grow question 4 years ago
Running an experiment on temperature control on DWC buckets. I am seeing that no temp control in DWC thru 3 weeks has been beneficial. Same strain, environment, training, topping and all. Curious what's going on. Maybe hotter temps for first 3 weeks helps due to evaporation?
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WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2answered grow question 4 years ago
@MrBlocc420 The uncontrolled bucket temperatures have ranged from 74-79 depending on time of day so far. It's getting colder here quickly. I imagine that the 79 will be the high temp for the remainder of the grow. Controlled bucket has been between 63-69 the entire time with vast majority of time being between 66-68.
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WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2answered grow question 4 years ago
@The8thChevron I should probably clarify a bit. My tent temperatures are the same for both. Only difference in the 2 plants so far has been temperature of the water in my DWC buckets. One I keep at 66-68 and the other is whatever the tent is. Root system is maybe 3x the size.
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MrBlocc420
MrBlocc420answered grow question 4 years ago
I don’t know where your temp in buckets are but optimal temps in my room in my medium is anywhere from 65-74 degrees on hot days or heat waves I’ll drop temps to 65 to keep plants comfortable. Up to 80 degrees is fine. Any higher your plants will stop taking up nutrients . I will love to see how high your temps get and how your plants react I am curious
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WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2started grow question 4 years ago
In a mostly indica strain, for a 2x4 tent and a 240W LED. Does it pay off to top 2x? I have 5 nodes of new growth after topping and not sure what my next steps should be. I am training the entire thing but feeling like I should do something additional. Thx for any suggestions
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 4 years ago
Depends on how many plants you have. Aim for 4 colas per sq ft
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MrBlocc420
MrBlocc420week 8
She is looking great 👍🏾
MrBlocc420
MrBlocc420
@WhyNotA2,yea me too love to watch them grow . You are definitely doing a good job she looks way bigger than mine in your hydro system. Keep it up 👍🏾
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@MrBlocc420, appreciate it. I still don't really feel like I know what I am doing. Just enjoying this grow and hoping in the future I get good at it. Love watching the progress
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 3
Hey bro looking good. Are you running your ph at 6.1, that is in the flower stage for ph. You wanna try and keep your babies at 5.8 for proper nitrogen uptake in veg state. Cheers friend
GMSgrows
GMSgrows
@WhyNotA2, always good to change slow.
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@GMSgrows, I changed the pH yesterday and they were at 6.0 last night. I will lower to 5.9 today.
MrBlocc420
MrBlocc420week 11
Keep up that great work @whynotA2 👌🏾She is looking lovely, I can’t wait to see how mine does in flower
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@MrBlocc420, Thanks man, what I lack in experience I hope to make up for in being a helicopter parent. I had a few hiccups in overfeeding but smooth outside of a few days. She got sugary really quickly and starting to really be stinky. I have been watching your grow and she looks perfectly symmetrical. I'm pumped to see how yours turn out.
Tweezer
Tweezerweek 3
Off to a very nice start, this is my first grow as well, good luck the rest of the way!
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@Tweezer, Appreciate it! From looking at your journal and other folks'.... it looks like I have a slow starter. Hoping to get her to your heights by the end. Excited to follow your grows
DeadwebsiteBoringcommunity
DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityweek 3
I have done this experiment myself personally.. And I had the same results... The Water chiller did ZERO difference.. In fact I saw better grown in the Reservoir without the Water Chiller then with it... Was a what the fuck moment for me... I have spent about 400 dollars on water chilling up to this point... And now the two water chilling units I have.. Are sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Maybe yours too?
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@DeadwebsiteBoringcommunity, This is my first grow that I put effort into. Reading online what it takes to grow a plant. Makes me think I need a PHD in botany before I can start or 5000$ dollars to pay for everything to be automated. I can never figure out what are the real requirements for a healthy plant.
Tweezer
Tweezerweek 2
Looking strong and healthy! Great farming! Stay lit and good luck the rest of the way!
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@Tweezer, Appreciate the encouragement! I plan on being active and uploading photos as I go. I have been quietly stalking other folks grow journals for some time now and finally got the confidence to start
motaman311
motaman311week 8
Looks great bro. I don't know about Co2 indoors without having a sealed setup, but it's already starting to get cool enough that I have my windows open to get some fresh air in. I'm in Mass. When it get's cooler I try to run an intake that brings fresh air into my room... outside air has something like 3-400 ppms of Co2.
Athos
Athosweek 5
Depends on how many plants you have. Aim for 4 colas per sq ft
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeersweek 5
Very compact, looking good!
Ferenc
Ferencweek 4
You are doing well mate. It happens to everyone that you know sometimes the nature of the seeds or whatever. Cannabis can explode in veg stage as well day by day not only when flowering starts... Your plants are dope and you will get nice results I am sure. @WhyNotA2 Keep up your hard work man :)
motaman311
motaman311week 4
how do the roots look on plant 2? my plants look like that if I have some root issues. I had some algae early veg from light leaks for the longest time.
motaman311
motaman311
@WhyNotA2, it took me almost a year to figure out my root issues. I had some successful grows because some plants can battle through better than others, but I almost switched to coco because it was so frustrating. It is possible the water bottle could bring bacteria in, but I doubt it. I would be more worried with the frozen water bottle causing root damage if it touches the roots. I was never able to save any plant with h2o2, but many people use it very successfully. There are only so many things that can cause root root, so eliminate them and you are golden. For example, I was using hydroguard, great white, I brewed a compost tea for bennies.. all these things help combat root rot, but I still had issues because I still had a light leak, so no matter how much stuff I put in the res, I couldn't get rid of the root rot. Make sure all your stuff is clean, take the plant out and rinse the roots off with water. Maybe top feed of some water/h2o2 mix through the hydroton. Wash and clean everything.. air stones, air lines too. Here is a good forum post with a lot of info.. other people commenting on how they fixed their issues too: https://www.rollitup.org/t/guide-to-getting-rid-of-root-rot.347697/
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@@motaman311, for this bucket I believe it has to have been light leaks. Is it possible that I brought in the bacteria for root rot from the ice bottles I was using to cool the water? Also, if I wanted to try and save this one..... where would you start? The internet is misleading when you search for troubleshooting like this
motaman311
motaman311
@WhyNotA2, depends what you want to do. Root rot doesn't mean your plant will die. I would pop another seed or two, but try and save this 1 if you have the time and space. It is a great learning experience. Sometimes it is hard to get rid of, but you can definitely save the plant. Also, you got root rot because your environment wasn't right. You had high water temps, light leaks, or something to cause the rot, so it will happen again unless you figure out the cause of the root rot. My guess is a light leak in the reservoir.
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grzesiekkuzniak
grzesiekkuzniakweek 3
you r overfeeding ur ph is too high u wanna cover everything................u dont have to ................but it gives u better results.....................even am air line exposed to light f.... things up in my opinnion
grzesiekkuzniak
grzesiekkuzniak
@WhyNotA2,i go as low as 5.3
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@grzesiekkuzniak, crazy how much junk there is on the internet. I have read a few times pH should be 5.9 or 6.1 and some say anything from 5.5-6.5. I used 1/4 the amount of nutrients the labels recommended for seedlings so strange it's too high
grzesiekkuzniak
grzesiekkuzniak
@WhyNotA2,go as low as 5.4 air from air pump raises ph..........not sure about ppm i only know ec
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CrarBear
CrarBearweek 15
Looking nice, excited to see the chop.
CrarBear
CrarBear
@WhyNotA2, Definitely down.
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@CrarBear, hike and taste test in the near future?
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustweek 15
Looks good man enjoy 😃
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@Inganjawetrust, much appreciated! It's been awesome and I plan to get up and going again in another month. Do you have any recommendations of favorite strains to grow?
Ferenc
Ferencweek 12
Well done! @WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@Ferenc, Thanks man! I'm hooked! It's been a great advantage to be able to look at journals like yours and emulate PPM values or pH at different stages or a training tactic etc.
blendmedmedman
blendmedmedmanweek 7
this will be nice
WhyNotA2
WhyNotA2
@blendmedmedman, Hope so! Appreciate the words of encouragement.
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 15
Lovelly Wedding Cake x Purple Punch!!!
heizen
heizenweek 15
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
CozmikCanni
CozmikCanniweek 15
I’m running a couple punch cakes for a second time, soil though.
Budhazard
Budhazardweek 9
like it 💚 check my diaries!