Aromagurl Debate: new growth is bright lime green with a yellowish tint. Tons of new growth which is great. However, the stem has this woody look to it was a texture that works it's way up the stem. I am debating whether this is residual damage left from Russet mites or a possible Sulfer deficiency that has developed during all of the pest treatments.
Called Dr. Zymes hotline because have heard great things about their customer service and wanted to use their non-toxic product. Can be a soil drench that can get these buggers in the soil, stem, and foliar. Plus, the way it works bugs never get used to it. They said they will call me back to help me. I hope so. I don't have great luck with these things. The lady at Dr. Zymes told me to give the plant a break based on the little white things I am seeing on the back of the leaves. She said "if you haven't seen any wiggly bugs in a while more than likely you have no bugs ATM and are over-treating the plant". She recommended giving the plant rest for 5 days before using Dr. Zymes as IPM . Foliar spray and Drench. She could be right but both times I hit the plant with Sulfer it loved it which makes me think it has a deficiency of some kind. Brings my head back to the Azamax I used and right after treatment all new growth was bright green and clawed. Soil PH was all of a sudden 8. (used to linger around 6) . Strange.
If the PH is truly 8 then I need to find a way to use some living soil techniques to raise the acidity to help her to absorb the proper nutrients from the soil.-----AND UPDATE: No problem I have found it. Toward the end of the week I was reading "grow your own soil" and it was telling me to add "organic material" . Time for a buncha top dressing of compost. I added some coffee grounds for some added acidity. IT WORKED! The sulfur sprays killed any signs of the russet mites and helped with sulfur deficiency. ----Great! So, much happened this week. She went from looking spindly to being a busy gal on the top. Finally taking up nutrients again and now time to get ready for flowering. She is stunted overall but it is what it is.
I am just out of surgery as of Thursday so I am not in the best of shape to stoop in the tent to do these foliar sprays. Good thing the nice lady at Dr. Zymes said that for now I should leave the plant alone and let it be. She said if I don't see bugs in the scope they are probably not active or alive right now. wait about 5 days before hitting it with Dr. Zymes again. She was going to have someone at their office that knows about "living soil" call me. I felt happy about that and really do hope someone does call me. I have little energy right now and my vision was affected by this surgery so sorry if there are typos or strange stuff when I posed. I'll be back to seeing straight in a week or so. The surgery was on my face so sometimes it affects vision from what I gather. (sinus and migraine functional surgery. ) nothing cosmetic ya'll. I am sooo not that kinda hippie. haha.
HERE IS THE DR. ZYMES ELIMINATOR:
https://doctorzymes.com/pesticide-free-insecticide.php
Here is the Safer product I tried that I understand is great for mildew. I was told by the people at the grow store not to use it as a soil drench.
https://www.amazon.com/Safer-Garden-Fungicide-Concentrate-16-Ounce/dp/B000BX1FNW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=safer+sulfur&qid=1599962954&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-1
The Safer product you need a surfactant to use with it. I got an organic yucca.
Okay well, that's it so far this week. more later.
If anyone wants to know bout any of these products which I will hafta use as prevention in the future just let me know.
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Hi dear!
Looking absolutely fantastic now, great that after the defoliation it's bouncing back so quickly (and still looking healthy! - Remember that removing damaged leaves only removes visible reminders that they exists and not the deficiency or issue causing it. Though it does divert energy to healthy growth if you've fixed the issue causing damage)
Definitely do not recommended the GardenSafe product for cannabis - I use it to GREAT affect on my roses, hydrangeas, and non-edible garden items. However I hate that it's active ingredient is neem oil and you CANNOT know what the other 97-99% of the solution is.
HOWEVER: There is a solution. Just get organic neem oil and you can use it as a mist (follow directions, tsp per 36oz water [Ph!] plus tsp of soap for emulsion) and you can also safely use it as a soak.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0716JF8MB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2HzxFb08Y1711
@Smokin_Joe,
Wow am I horrible at using this site. haha. Thx for all your thoughts. Your spot on and I agree bout removing damaged leaves. I was hoping, as you said, that her energy would go toward new growth. They will die and fall off eventually. Sad but true. Issues are starting to get fixed slowly as I learn. I know I need to get my climate under control. I am using wettable sulfur for the Russets currently which works WONDERS both for the plant's nutrition and for the mites. A horticulturist / IPM specialist that finally fell into my life like a miracle is guiding me and I am thankful for her advice on this because they are barely there now. I tried a neem product and it wasn't cutting it. Destroyed the ph in my living soil and all the microbes too when I used it as a drench. Btw, however, was NOT pure neem oil (Azamax is the extract of the active constituent of Neem) . It isn't possible to use oil-based products with the Sulfur though so my IPM is all non-oil based ATM. Working wonders though on a plant that has suffered mites for months. Now finally recovering. YEaaaah! I am going to find the product you mentioned and put it on my wishlist so if I should need it in the future I will have it in my bag. haha. I am sure you know it is good to keep things varied for pests.
The one product I had tried that might have sounded like "GardenSafe" was called Safer Brand Fungicide.
https://www.amazon.com/Safer-Garden-Fungicide-Concentrate-16-Ounce/dp/B000BX1FNW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&hvadid=78615133924668&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=safer+brand+fungicide&sr=8-4&tag=mh0b-20
(btw I wouldn't buy it on amazon. it is at lowes and other stores for about 9-10$)
That is what started really making a dent in those pesky mites. It is only 12% sulfur and just like the brand you mentioned has 88% other ingredients. I hate that. So, my mentor told me to get elemental micronized sulfur and make my own and use some yucca for sufficient. Works great but it is a huge mess in my tent. Have to leave the powder on the leaves. That is part of what kills them. Eggs too! Great for PM too (although I haven't had that )
Its this product:
https://www.amazon.com/Bonide-PRODUCTS-142-Sulphur-Fungicide/dp/B0035H7V34/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3GFN94BYPCH41&dchild=1&keywords=bonide+sulfur+organic+concentrated+dust+fungicide&sprefix=Bonide+sullfur%2Caps%2C201&sr=8-4
(same with this product --I paid 8$ for 4lb bag and probably 10$ for a gallon of yucca extract so not an amazon friendly item either)
Course you might already know about these but I thought I would share. Just make sure to read all safety info. Do not want to be inhaling the sulfur. even though it is considered an organic and natural element.
It won't kill ya but will make it hard to breathe and some people react harshly. Some are more sensitive.
Hope your growing is going well. My best to ya. (sorry so late in response) LOL
Looking good! Keep up the good work
Cheers,