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Zkittles light sensitivity? The nature of LED lighting?

Mitrafiend
Mitrafiendstarted grow question 3 years ago
Has anyone that is growing Zkittles notice this plant sensitive to over-exposure of light? my first time growing this strain and I was getting what looked like severe Calcium def at the tops. Moved it up to 18” and 60% and they look beautiful and happy. Photone reported 1100ppfd
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 3 years ago
photone is no guarantee... as long as the characteristics of your light are near enough to the stock factor calculation they are using... it'lll be okay. What you can use it for is relative intensity... 90% of what you read before will be 90% of actually ppfd (whatever it was), too, so it is proportional. Those apps are like a TDS meter... a TDS meter does not measure PPM... it measures EC and divides by .5 or .7 or .. think there's a third possibility depending on manufacturer and region. The photone app i slikely taking a lux reading, because that's all a phone can actually do, and then applying some stock calculation to provide you with a false ppfd value. because the led lights are much more similar now, the error will be smaller, at least. you cannot measure ppe without a real piece of scientific equipment. your phone absolutely cannot measure photons individually or in any direct way that results in accurate measurments. Now, genetics do play a role, but the larger factors to consider are your environment. Temp, RH and atmospheric co2 will dictate how much light your plant can handle. the temp and rh also dictate how fast it drinks to match that new potential with extra available co2, or it will be in some part wasted. Light burn symptoms are pretty obvious when they start... if you see them, react of course... but don't assume that the plant can handle the same exact amount any particular day if the other factors are wobbling. it can't. it's all relative, baby! 1100ppfd, which isn't ppfd, if it's a measurement in "1" spot. PPFD is the average per m^2. so you'd have to take measurements in several locations and average them out to determine what you are provider per your area. it's easier to just take the umol/s your light produces, if proper spec sheet which cna be rare, and convert from your umol/s per area to umol/s per m^2 then reference a DLI table... that will be apples to apples in that regard. A DLI 35-40 is probably safe, but also could be the start of the "danger zone" it's not a line in the sand.. it becomes a progressively worse context at some point, though. that "point" fluctuates with environment as well as genetics, but less so.. these plants evolved being pelted by too much light. if there's soem volatility here it's probably due to lack of foresight with breeders.. .cause that would be a stupid trait to allow to persist or amplify.
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Mitrafiend
Mitrafiendanswered grow question 3 years ago
Update: Wasn't using a diffuser at all and consequently my measurements were invalid. After constructing quite a nice little diffuser (using photog equipment) I got readings that were much closer to the manufacturers numbers. That being said I still had my light a couple inches too close but way too intense. I been doing this long enough to know what to check and what to do to fix it usually I ha just never seen the effect proximity has on FS- LED compared to HPS where it exhibits more heat related issues due to the 840nm IR spike in the old HID systems,
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
Cant say it any better then @nobodybuds, also if just the tips are crisping. It could be to much feed, an EC of 1.6 is a bit high for an auto. So lighting might have been on point but the feed was just to high. If its not showing signs of light stress its probably not that at 16" https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/med-man-method-feeding-chart-ppm-ec.47856/ Good Luck!
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Hashy
Hashyanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hi mate that sounds a bit much for 6 weeks old. I use that app and don't seem to get near 1100ppfd before plants show problems. I have been using the DLI part of the app on the hours of light mine are on a day. By week 6 I try pushing about 30 dli. Hope this helps. Also with LED light I tend to find the plants need more calcium and magnesium.
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Disn00f
Disn00fanswered grow question 3 years ago
Plants uptake a lot of calcium with led lighting. I find 18 inches is a good distance. Best of luck with your grow
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