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TheHighentist
TheHighentiststarted grow question 2 years ago
Majority of my leaves look drooping and looks tired Is this from over or underwatering? Last water day was the 29th
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Leaves. Dropping off
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
it is important that you slowly increase to find the right amount. if you start with 275 ml then double it and see how they react. it is important to say that all plants have different needs, this is the only way you can find the sweet spot. if you now pour 2-3 liters in then you definitely have overwatering
crimsonecho
crimsonechoanswered grow question 2 years ago
you know what you’re feeding them too heavy and not watering enough. wish you posted some pics under natural lights but i bet those leaves are very very dark green seeing you are feedşng fish mix and biogrow together at 2m/l.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hey mate... you did a major defoliation on the 28th - the droopiness has nothing to do with water - you've shocked the plant and it needs time to recover. Whenever you choose to defoliate, do it slowly slowly slowly - and for a very good reason (getting light to the lower bud sites, increasing air flow, things like that). Do just a LITTLE bit and wait to see how the plant reacts. If everything is ok and you feel you need to do more, again, do just a LITTLE more - and wait. Good luck!
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Chow_13
Chow_13answered grow question 2 years ago
One way to tell with water is look at the STEM that attaches to the leaf. If it is drooping or flopping over then its a lack of water, If its straight or just slightly bent, but firm and the leaves are drooping then its over watering/root issues.
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
No do not remove the leaves until they are really sick or dead , as long as they are yellow, they still give energy to your plants. If you do some defoliation , then of course you can , but always give time to recovery from stress buddy
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
@PremiumbudsEU Thank you very much for answering my questions. I initially was planning on switching to bloom in the end of the week. But ill give them 7-14 days from now, depending on their recovery. Last question: If a few leafs has started to die ( Like dead tips brown/yellow), should i remove ?
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
There you go my friend , I'm so glad we helped you , I'm glad your plants are obviously recovering. Question .1 Give em at least 7 to 14 days time to recover from the training. 2. Do the same thing tomorrow because they where very thirsty in this case. Then wait till the soil drys a lil bit out, then you can raise the amount ( 100-200 ml) and over again in next days till you can give them enough water to collect 10-20% runn off, everytime you water . 3.no , i already told you buddy. 5. Yess give alga mic 2-3 ml per litre with your other nutrients. It will help a lot .
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
Thank you very much for the advise, After just 1+ hour with water they start to look normal again, very fast recovery! So it was def underwatering that was the problem. Now my question is as following, since i prepared them for flowering: 1.Should i add on to the recovery time of supercropping and stress training? 2. Should i let them enjoy the water i just gave them now, and same amount tomorrow morning? (Like @PremiumbudsEU said) or 3. Should i finish todays watering with the double(or how much more?) to have run off, in the bottom of the pot ( Like @Organoman said) Conclusion for now: 1.My plants need more amount of water (I need to reach around 1liter pr. plant(10liters of coco soil) pr. 3 days) 2.My plants need to get gradually more water pr. watering (Working my way up to 1 liter) 3.When i get to the correct point of water, it should make run through 4.Keep letting the pot dry out before watering again (5. Add Alga-mix to spray the leafs 1-2 times a week((What should the ML to Liter be)) Should i add some to their feeding as well, maybe half dosage? And also, thank you very much to both of you! Once again growdiaries and it's community has proven itself very helpful <3
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
Less and more often is the golden rule !!
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
yes you are right, but if the pots are rooted, that makes sense, not right at the beginning, in my experience. especially not when the plants are under stress, better slowly until they're fully recovered from the stress. 👍 smoke a nice one friends
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
I am basing my advice on close to 40 years of growing experience, not internet gossip/theory. You need to get water coming out of the bottom of the pots each and every time you water, this is the only way to know that water has penetrated all the way through to the bottom of the pot, which is exactly where most of your plants will be or be heading. Your plant is shedding leaves as a "survival instinct" due to be under extreme water stress by being too dry. The idea is to deep water every few days rather than give little bits of water every day or so. The trick is then not to water again until the top 3-5cms of the soil has dried out again, this could be anything from 2-10 days, depending on plant size, plant water requirements, temps, air flow, water holding capacity of the substrate etc. Deep water until run off and then waiting until it has dried out again before deep watering again is definitely the way to go. Your finger stuck into the soil makes the best moisture meter in the world!
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
No buddy , better next day in the morning again same amount and then wait 1-2 days. If you have alga mic , spray it twice a week on the leaves , trust me. That help recovery from the stress. I'm going with biobizz for 3 years now
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
I just gave them 400ML pr plant, (with the 2ml/Liter biobizz Grow and Biobizz Fishmix as usual) Do you recommend that i come back in an hour an give another 100ML-200ML? or is that too big of a step from the 275ML they got before?
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
But still, thats a lot of water considering that the internet swears to the 25-33% rule
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
From 275 ml to 2 l ?? 😅 No way !!! Start with 1 l or a half every 2 day Good
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
@Organoman Thank you for your answer, it leaves a bit of confusion tho. Everywhere i read, it says water 25-33% of the soil content in the pot. Since i have around 10liters soil, i calculated to 275ML every 3 day'ish Now 2 Liters pr. plant every 3 days is a different story. How come you say 3 liters? You want it to have run through water? -The ones i have consulted about the 25-33% rule, says that it does not have to have run through , and its a sign of watering the right amount
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
Brother I just looked at your pictures again, they looking better ? I see nothing bad , but I would agree with @organoman too if it is the case but I don't think so . Humidity 70% is good in veg ! Yess they was stressed 4sure , just give them a good week recovery . And give every 2-3 says at least 1 l then look how the react.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
275ml every 3 days is nowhere near enough, try about 2 litres every 3 days or so! They look very thirsty to me. Leaves dropping off is the plant trying to save itself from losing even more water through the leaves, as it "thinks" that "if I get rid of some leaves this will slow transpiration/evaporation and save my life!" Hope this helps, Organoman.
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
Also imporant to note that i have been dropping my humidity slowly as im transitioning into flowering. So my humidity used to be around 70-75% and now its down to 67-71%
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
I dont know much, but i would suspect they need water since i gave them last time d29/5 after doing super cropping and some stress training. The light has been penetrating much better og that may have caused quicker evaporation of the water in the soil?
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TheHighentist
TheHighentistanswered grow question 2 years ago
@PremiumbudsEU thank you for the quick answer i've watered my plants every 3 day aprox They get around 275 ML pr plant I have uploaded unlighted pictures in my diary on 5 week
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
be careful when watering, always nice and slow if when growing in soil. Hope it helped Good luck with your grow buddy 👍
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
If u trained ur plants and watered to much , this might be the problem. Wait for the pots to dry out 80% then start with lower dose water till u see how much they drinking.
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
But it looks like they got too much water buddy. How much water do you give per/plant ?
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PremiumBudsEU
PremiumBudsEUanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hey buddy can u pls make pictures without this blue/red light, its hard to see what's wrong.
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