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//Harvest timing// Flushing to close to harvest time? Your opinion on my buds matureness.

TheHighentist
TheHighentiststarted grow question 2 years ago
I just started flushing a couple days ago, i'm about to go into week 8 of flowering. (Royal queen seeds advise 7.5-9week) What is your opinion on right harvest time? 1/4 is behind schedule (different stress training) I'm using BioBizz, see my detailed diary
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LoganatorDude
LoganatorDudeanswered grow question 2 years ago
In all honest, I’m going to offend some people when I say this but I no longer believe that flushing has anything to do with the content of the buds. If you really look at the biology side of things, the plant won’t pull any nutrients out of the buds during a flush because the buds are the plants priority, it takes the nutrients out of the leaves and uses those nutrients for the buds. That’s why flushing affects the leaves. Just from a visual perspective, you can see what’s going on. Additionally those “chemicals”/plant food your trying to flush out of the buds never got inside the buds in the first place. Flushing is important to prevent those salts from locking out your plant! Ultimate jeopardizing your bud quality dramatically! But seeing as though you haven’t locked out yet, just don’t feed! And start flush right away, then harvest the whole plant or sections of the plant when ready, regardless of how much flushing. I would never want to spend all my time growing to have “harsh” buds at the end because I didn’t flush! But I’ve learned otherwise. The least I can do is try to clear up a little misinformation. I have also personally smoked a variety of samples during what was basically a blind test. The harshest stuff was apparently flushed heavy for two weeks. But it was also dried really fast and wasn’t cured. Basically I was smoking stuff harvest 10 days ago. On the other end. The absolute best tasting, smoothest smokin stuff was apparently fed up until harvest?!?! Must have not been much food but either way, it was cured for 3 months. From a scientific perspective, it appears to me to be mostly the chlorophyll and other constituents that break down during the cure process that also contribute to that nasty harsh almost chemical taste! Flushing is very important for the health of the plant, ESPECIALLY in late flower! Plus in late flower it doesn’t really need any more food anyways. I have had a few plants that unfortunately didn’t receive hardly any flushing and almost locked out. But I got a good harvest and after only one month of cure both me and my friends thought it was smooth and tasty. Hope these anecdotes help! Happy tokes!
LoganatorDude
LoganatorDudeanswered grow question 2 years ago
Any salts that are taken up by the plant are going to be incorporated systemically for the mineral or nutrient composition of those salts. It’s not the same as table salt or sea salt. It’s basically dried up water soluble nutrients, like that crusty buildup around the bottle cap, or on the interiors of some pots. When those salts build up around the roots it causes issues and ultimately your plant locks out as it’s roots are basically clogged. Even though that’s technically not accurate. It has to do with the pH. And the salts would not build up around the roots specifically, instead they build up within the ENTIRE media. The pH can drop to a 3 pretty fast if the situation is bad enough.
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loganchan
loganchananswered grow question 2 years ago
tiered harvest schedule is an option. leaving the underdeveloped colas some extra time before cutting them down.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 2 years ago
I think it is ready for harvest honestly. It looks like it is starting to fox tail. So likely has ripened if 8 weeks into flowering. I have experimented with flushing if it is not a organic grow then I recommend. The salts are gross if still in the plant when smoked is the difference. Personally tried the experiment myself. Flavor is better with the salts worked out of the plant.
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
trichomes pistils density of colas use all three to consistently choose a timeframe for harvest... trial and error to find what you prefer as far as early-middle-late spectrum of options. late harvest has more degradation and should give more of a heavy come-down and sleepiness as high abates. i prefer a little early. i only wait to see "some' amber in each locale i check. i've seen odd things with trichomes on a few plants, so i also use pistil coloration and density of the colas to help decide... help recognize earlier when some phenotype doesn't turn amber in a normal manner for whatever reasons. trichomes are probably the main rail, but the other 2 are nearly as importat. there's no quality research behind most of this stuff, so it amounts to ppl guessing while using small samples. therefore, it is some etent suspect. e.g. flushing.. the reasons given for decades to do it have mostly been proven false (need some verfication studies, but the type of question like mineral content is a super easy one to be pretty confident about.. our equipment can do it and it's a simple question with few or no relativistic factos clouding the picture.... So, if the reasoning to do it is false, why is it important again? more likely because of tradition and nothing else. ("cause you daddy did it" type reasoning isn't good reasoning) you will find all sorts of confident statements that have nothing to do with cause and effect... and never was there any effort to prove anything. like health supplements peddled to people... that's a huge red flag if they've had decades to test it and purposely do not. clearly just taking advantage of the fact not everyone can take a bunch of biology and chemistry classes just for shits and grins, so there is a knowledge gradient that makes taking advantage of them very easy. (like me going into a mechanic for car troubles... i'm fucked everytime)
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DutchDoobie
DutchDoobieanswered grow question 2 years ago
High The Highentist, I think that this plant is not ready for flushing yet. But without microscope to zoom in on the trichomes it is just guessing. You can buy a x60 pocket microscope to make sure that all your hard work during this grow was not for nothing. They are really cheap and the only way to know when to harvest precisely. Start flushing when most of the trichomes start to turn cloudy and some still clear. Than you should be ready for harvest when there are about 10% amber trichomes. Happy harvest!
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