Dwc Ph in high amounts to move 1.0 normal?

If you look at the grow and bloom of the OG Organic stuff, they all say: "Water Soluble" or "Available Phosphorus, "Soluble Potash". Means they are already in their plant available form, so no microbes needed to break down the nutrients.

The nutrients you are using (advanced OG Organics) don't require the microbes like in soil. All the nutrients in those bottles are already in their plant available form. I don't think pH down kills any of the microbes. It's acidic yes, but it is just phosphoric acid and some citric acid. I like the hydroguard, a good root beneficial product.

Oozle. Thanks man! Yeah I plan on doing it against all odds lol.. I'm going to do this grow with the general hydroponic trio then next grow i'm going for it again. Going to grab a few things that I believe will help me. For one I found out General hydroponic ph up and down will kill off some of the living organics. So ethier getting OMRI Certified Organic ph up and down or getting natural alternatives And looking into hydroguard. Might run a different combination in each bucket. Better chance of getting the goal. Ethier no foam or maybe in organic hydro its just going to happen. Run one with the foam and just let it ride and see what the plant does. I'm going to achieve my goal to grow OMRI CERTIFIED ORGANIC DWC!

foam isn't always bad if the plants and roots look healthy. My guess is it is the yeast extract making it foam. When I used some barley malt extract I used to get some foaming in the reservoirs too.

Creepy_Steve  I agree. It should be around the proper ph when mixed but it don't seem to be the case here. I finally found a OMRI certified organic full nutrient line. For hydroponics. But running into problems day 1 All three buckets had foam on top of water day after mixing nutrients. Dumped out re sanitized everything started again. And had to use alot of ph up and it still wouldn't move at 65 drops Did a Google search on foam in bucket dwc. And found that too much air going into buckets will cause this. So I turned down the air that night. . So came back next day to finish ph and foam in all three buckets again. Not sure ifnit because its organic. And I need to add something to it that combats this that is OMRI Certified. Not sure how to move forward. The buckets get foam over night

Oozle  I'm using OG Organics. It's the only full line of " OMRI Certified organic" nutrients i could find. https://www.advancednutrients.com/products/og-organics-iguana-juice/ Tap water is 7.0ph. And after nutrients it drops to 5.0ph just trying to get around 6.0ph

GrowingGrannie. I'm using tap water. Mine comes out the tap at 7.0ph. But after nutrients its down in the 5.0 range. Thanks i appreciate the help

I was using General Hydroponics PH Test Kit

it is possible.......depends how concentrated is ph down

What nutrients are you using that you have to PH up for seedlings? And what do you mean by "DWC Organic nutrients?" Fish shit? I would love to see a full grow diary using organic inputs for DWC. Most nutrients mix in at 5.8-6.4 depending on the water source and amount of nutrients used, so you shouldn't need to PH up your water for seedlings.

x^10th from "7" ...

pH is a logrithmic scale.. the ... x^10th at each step from previous. the strength of acid/base varies, so that can impact it too. some more willingly donate or accept that proton (H+) it's a ratio of resulting H3O+ : OH- .. 10:1 is 6 ph 100:1 is 5pH 1000:1 is 4 pH. (if going other way it's 1 h30+ to 1000 oh- and 10 pH) it's a balance of the two it the further from 7 the more difficult it is to move the needle, yes. Do not buy "ph-up" specific chemicals.. simply look at the ingredients used and go buy it at your local supermarket, LOL.. for 1/5th the price.. and molecularly the same goddamn thing.. they are extortionists... most marijuana brand companies charge a premium for ubiquitous items you can find at multiple other sources for much cheaper. acetic acid is fine... bases.. usualyl don't need a base.. but can use sodium bicarbonate sparingly.. if it's something that needs to be added all the time just find a base that doesn't have Na or something else detrimental with long-term use. ph-swings are caused by shit-ass products that aren't buffered properly... if pH swings, do not blame the ph-up or ph down used.. that is not the cause.. it's some poorly thought out product that refuses to apply old knowledge from any other sector of agriculture... in soil it may be self-corrected, so soil-based nutes are not as important to be pH buffered as soilless/hydro... but... if it's swinging that's trash. imo, it should come out to a proper pH when you mix it... that is easy to do and well-within our specie's capabilities with existing knowledge and technology for the last 100 years or more, bWAHAHA. it's just ignorant ppl spewing commercial product out there hoping ppl don't know any better... the last thing you should think is that marijuana specific products are somehow better for growing marijuana, because for the most part they are not.. it's more of a marketing scheme like the term "organic"....

Yeh, "pH up" solutions are generally less potent (by a lot) than "pH down" solutions.