What causes it continued, burning again.

This morning there did look like there was some change in the growing tips on the large containers and I dug out the wilted plant in the 2 gallon and replaced it with the same plant that looked healthy enough to use. Theres alway atleast a fungus gnat flying around and ive always had them and never used a no pest strip and they've never affected the larger vegging plants before. It appears that its solved but what caused my plants in the winter to die, I don't think it was the green pH reading because I remember how strange the water was before the changing filters but it could be a combination of the filter and something else and fungus gnats possibly but unlikely. Im gonna wait until they look healthy and then i'll say its solved.

I looked at them again a few hours after watering with the pHed nutrient solution and to me it looks like these are going to grow and that could be the first time ive experienced this problem, nutrients sit around for awhile pH goes up its probably not that, its gotta be something else but if thats enough to fix them, I can only hope.

26% of the plants under the HLG 250 look like they can grow but the others look somewhat burnt or unable to function, ive identified the pest as a fungus gnat with apple cidar vinegar, they are brown with white bellies and there aren't alot of casualties but there are some as of right now. The water on the floor from the nutrient feeding was shop vac'd and the ec reading was 0.2-0.4 on a full vac. I started this discussion a month ago and that is the grid making extra on something unexplained because I don't believe its the fungus gnats.

I made the decision to water them with nutrients again and I used alot and I got a runoff reading of 0.2-0.4 ec and from perspective this looks like where they pull out the Neuralyzer and your living as a farm girl in the 14th century and all your doing is milking your cows and you see a bright light.

They look locked out and unable to grow, no sign of them growing again. Im probably not able to fix it with a flush of anything because they'll only yellow. I don't like where id have to reclone them because all I was trying to do was save them from what happened over the winter. I can't say im physically feeling that great either, this was not my fault.

I used some pH down to lower it to 6.0 and that shouldn't be the cause of it. Im going to let the plants use the moisture up and its going to take awhile because there larger containers, and im not thinking there being fed to strong so I don't think adding water is going to do anything.

The drooping of the one 2 gallon plant isn't a pH issue or the fact that the plants have grown before and one is still growing that is very small that had lost all of its growing tips and fan leaves but now has a growing stem.

The pH of the nutrient solution has gone up to a pH of 7 but it was at 6 PH for awhile, thats not really high to stop them from growing but there is leaf twisting on one of the plants that was growing and then stopped but didn't grow very alot as in only a few inches.

There is one plant in a 2 gallon that kind of has a droop look to it and the other plants don't and there is a plant in a 1 litre that had yellow leaves from a deficiency on the bottom fan leaves and was growing at one point but also has a leaf with a claw. It would make more sense if it was a flying root aphid but they basically were not able to grow from day 1 after being moved from the cloning light, they were immediately stuck and nothing.

It easy to say that its fungus gnats but the yellowing is caused by nutrient deficiencies and twisting in the leaves is not ph caused, ive always had a fungus gnat.

No growth today, there are alot of roots growing out of the containers though and one of them was probably 12" long growing out of the container into the runoff water and I keep my sensor white wire for my thermostat hanging off of the light, so today I moved that off of the light..sounds silly but thats all I could think of with a 0.4 ec runoff. Im pretty sure im not whats causing it.

The containers were heavy but a little dry coco on the top so I added a half litre of nutrient solution to the larger containers but they don't look like there going to grow at all, and if a deity is screening it or something else I dunno what caused them to close this part to begin with. It is probably an important part that is separate from the lab scene as in I can't say that its caused by the water. You look at all the designs in nature and something made those patterns but I don't know what it is.

The larger light still looks stuck and the not alot to see on the smaller light. Its strange they grew under the cloning lights and were healthy but as soon as they were moved under the larger light thats when there health deteriorated and that was while the larger plants were stuck.

I didn't notice anything strange after moving the plants, the 250 can light a 4x4 space but the last six inches is only reading 99 PPFD but the 6" over the 3x3 recommendation is still reading high enough, so you could veg plants to 4 feet with the HLG 250 because thats the PPFD reading for vegging and that is the right size light for the September weather, larger spaces can use 600w lights and need cooling but you can easily veg a 6x6 with 600w+ light. Thats part of the question because that is what im using to solve this.

In the unlikely event it happens again somewhere else, it did happen atleast once already.

After I moved the additional plants under the other light I shop vac'd up some more water and it had an ec reading of 0.4, all im gaining visually doing this are spacers on the larger light but they don't fall anyways so it doesn't necessarily mean that it should be screened through something. If the plants under the larger light grow they would of needed to be moved anyways but if they don't im wasting electricity. I can't really do anything with the plants under the larger light right now other than grow them, so I am sort of wasting electricity but theres no other way to figure this out.

The next thing im going to do is put the 2 gallons under an HLG 250 along with the small transplants about 15 feet away.

3 gallons of fresh water added with runoff and two shop vacs full and the last shop vac with a half gallon in it only read 0.2-0.4 ec, that does explain why the smallest plant is growing but it doesn't explain why they aren't growing in the large containers.

Ive watched some of them respond to the nutrients, it couldn't possibly be that. Literally not moving, none functioning. The worst ive seen a plant.

There still not growing and look like they'd either grow or die, I add fresh water they'd be defiecient, if I add nutrients they don't do anything but some of the plants responded to the nutrients most of them are not responding, its like my last brain cell, its not working at all.

You think its a mistake because you think we should of gotten together, but you only appear human but you probably do have feelings that are similar. Imagine how I feel about my plants.

Awkward moment in the weed field.."you guys out here make it difficult for me, its really small from my point of view"

I fed them some more water today and that seemed to help but it isn't whats causing it. Im thinking from the perspective that there not using the nutrients and the water flushed a little of whats not happening in the plants rootzone. The leaves are pointing up and happy but there yellow, fortunately one of the smaller plants that looked really not good has some new growth and thats nice to see but it isn't the best experience ive had gardening, if you make crop circles in my garden im going to talk to you about this because im not a small galaxy and there are others that would want to know what your doing with the materials, the lemur "put the materials back where you found them." There are enough beans for this but its not that funny because I had to talk to someone to get this clone, its probably only a few people that have it. Is there a Galactic marketplace for clones, I dunno I gotta know someone else to do that.

I got a phone another Galaxy and tell them there massaging me.

how deep can you massage with that thing, holy f***

I can't phone them and tell them is the problem.

The upper mantle reaches 930 celcius at the highest, its probably to deep if it has a shield.

The crust is 100km of depth, thats not a realistic view of it.

Its not a beginner attempt, this looks machine caused.

it looks exactly like what happened in the winter, Its like being refried from the looks of it. No growth, only yellowing, no chance of a leaf tip growing, burnt etc. lime green.

because of how I feel standing in the room and how they look now, I don't have any numbers to contact to solve it. Im not happy about the question.

The weeds that were growing in the coco that were non cannabis plants are not effected by the nutrients or fresh water.

You'd almost think this time was spray damage but that would mean they would all look worse.