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Growing GDP is my temp humity vpd ok ?

Motherfuckingjones
Motherfuckingjonesstarted grow question 5 months ago
Hey guys/gal. First time grower here. I am growing grand daddy purple. I have read that gdp like high humidity around 60-70%. My temp is sitting between 68-72 degrees f. But my VPD is sitting .8-.9 sometimes 1.1 is this ok ? Or should I adjust accordingly to get the vpd .5?
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Incognitus
Incognitusanswered grow question 5 months ago
Healthy leaves do not sap energy after their initial development (within 2-3 days?). They are a net positve. There's no reason to remove a leaf as they are contributing even if shielded. They also transpire, which is how the plant gets carbon from atmosphere... quite important and they store building blocks. removing leaves just because everyone else does it is not a good reason to do so. The first 1, 3 and 5-fingered leaves can often be ugly. As long as they grow out of it, it's not a concern in the long-run. Variegation is not much of a concern if it continues beyond that, but other mutations could pose problems. In my expereince fucked up leaf growth is usally not worth the effort -- wrinkly, weird spots, just fucked up growth patterns etc. temp and RH measurement for vpd should be taken at the leaf surface (more stoma underneath, so probably better to measure there) -- an infrared themometer can do it. If measuring in the canopy or above/below it.. you need a temperature offset. I don't know enough to cover all the bases, but -5F is what 'they say' ... what they don't say is where that measurement was taken, becaue under the canopy may not need as large of an offset as above the canopy. this is the problem of getting 'simplified' explanations... we cannot extrapolate properly. The most important thing is to measure these things in a consistent way... your trial and error from there will lead you to a better spot without knowing the exact offset to use. "your" vpd calculation may not be precise but it will be consistent, which is enough to use as a tool to guide you, but "your" vpd you find to be optimal may actually be higher/lower etc as far as properly translating it to another garden that doesn;t measure temp/rh exactly like you do. .8-1.1 won't cause issues for a young plant. you may want 1-1.2 for mature vege (this may be due to my error in offset as explained above - bit sketch to try to tell you what i do if we take measurements differently from environment). Some references suggest a slightly lower VPD than that, too. Who is right? Not entirely sure, lol.. so the basic concept should be used as a starting point from which you can observe and adjust... try a bit higher, try a bit lower.. just know if you don't use clones of same plant, you have a lot of genetic diversity that will create a fog of war as far as what you observe being attributed to the vpd or any number of other variables that aren't the same from one grow to the next.
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 5 months ago
Oh. Not just the leafs, I mean take the lil growth above them. You might have to scrape it away (the to be crap nodes)
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 5 months ago
You're joking right. Perky. She's a mutated pheno. The spots are attributed to defects in the growing process. She does look good. What 7-9 days old VPD does come into it. You really need a meter to take your temps, rh and dew point and you get set VPD, oh and Intake/outake exhaust has a massive effect on VPD. And then there's the more important, LVPD LeafVapourPressureDef. This is much more key, dialing this in. Well when you fully got that down. I noticed how quick my plants grow with that. Co2 and leaf temp needs to be 29c+ to enhance your LVPD.. I was getting nearly all my plants during summer that was day 4 or so, id even bigger. Whereas my temp in winter. My lvpd is much lower. And takes 7-10 days to leave the seedling stage. BTW. You see that 1 fingered leaf. I, most growers remove these. They sap up energy and nearly 99% of the time. The nodes above overgrow them, they're blocked out and that node acts much better in your compost bin. Good luck.
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AutoflowersSucK
AutoflowersSucKanswered grow question 5 months ago
Your plants don't care about VPD? wow....
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 5 months ago
Your plant won't care.....just feed it and water it properly!
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AutoflowersSucK
AutoflowersSucKanswered grow question 5 months ago
Don't worry about that weird looking spotty speckles. New seedlings often times show weird discoloration or a wave in the middle of the leaf. Just double check the undersides of those leaves to be sure there's no pesky invaders aka bugs!
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AutoflowersSucK
AutoflowersSucKanswered grow question 5 months ago
0.85 to 0.95 VPD for veg is perfect! Look at the first pic. Thats a happy little girl right there. When your VPD is dialed in your plants look perky and reeeeeach for that light. When everything is right, your plants will tell you. Personally i'd like to see your daytime temps stay at 72F and not dip below 70F. Humidity at 65 to 70% = happy ladies.
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