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What happened - major diff., same genetics

MakeMeSleepy420
MakeMeSleepy420started grow question 8 hours ago
Same everything between 2 plants (genetics, feed, watering, etc.). Only difference from last grow was tap water (left in 5ga bucket for 24 hrs, 150ppm TDS), added 2nd 200w light… plant on right showing nutrient deficiency and stretched almost 2X..? Expecting 10-12oz from grow…
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 36 minutes ago
Seeds = similar Clones = identical. Seeds have random genetic recombinations that give rise to various phenotypes, even thogh they may be of the same genotype. Breeders pollinate many, many females to produce a years supply of seeds for you and I to buy..........slight genetic variations are a given. Water changing the genetics of a plant or altering "nutrient digestability" is utter nonsense.
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Fikumiku
Fikumikuanswered grow question 2 hours ago
This is happened to me too. Look like if you grow from seeds they never the same. If you like same grow you need to take clones from plant you like. They look really bushy and strong. Plant like to suck nutrients from leafs in end cycle. Good luck
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 hours ago
Different answers if they are different seeds though, I thought we had identical clones. Then it's just good old genetic tomfoolery. If not: When water is left exposed to air, it absorbs carbon dioxide, which reacts with the water to form carbonic acid, slightly lowering the water's pH and potentially altering its taste. Carbon Dioxide Absorption: Water naturally absorbs carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere. The absorbed CO2 reacts with water (H2O) to form carbonic acid (H2CO3). Carbonic acid is a weak acid, and its formation leads to a slight decrease in the water's pH, making it slightly more acidic. Was the bucket clean? Was there anything in there that could cause a reaction? Tap water composition varies depending on the source and treatment, but generally includes essential minerals like calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, and trace amounts of others like iron, zinc, and manganese, along with chlorine for disinfection. When chlorine, used as a disinfectant in water treatment, reacts with organic matter (like decaying leaves, vegetation, and other substances) in the water, it can produce various byproducts, including trihalomethanes (THMs) like chloroform, Chloroform will not burn off. Can be harmful to plants, causing damage like brittleness in roots and chromosomal damage, Looks more like whatever you fed the plant on the right was broken down into a more digestible form before feeding. Possibly uptaking nutrients faster, which could explain enhanced growth and earlier signs of deficiency. The only thing that affects the speed of uptake is how small the nutrients are broken down,(Given transpiration is the same) cannabis plants are old grannies with false teeth that like to eat on mashed potatoes. Water absorbed CO2 altering PH casing different reactions releasing nutrients at an accelerated rate compared to other plant. Gluck.
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All_our_small_plants
All_our_small_plantsanswered grow question 5 hours ago
Ja das ist so wie @mOuse sagt, es sind keine Zwillinge oder clone. Ich habe Pflanzen von der gleichen Sorte im gleichen Zelt unter gleicher Bedingungen gegrowt und total verschieden Ergebnisse erhalten, eine war richtig Foxtailig und die andere schön kompakt. Die eine gab über 90g und die zweite keine 40g, und deine sehen ja sonst total super aus.
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ATLien415
ATLien415answered grow question 7 hours ago
Are they the same genetics? Packs of seeds are not the same genetics unless they're S1s done in a properly ran room by someone you trust. Most packs of seeds are of the F1 variety. This usually boils down to the breeder or forum cut being a unicorn out of an F1 domain with two major phenotypes displaying parent properties, two-four minor phenotypes indicative of grandparents, and some unicorns. Obviously this isn't a rule but in general if you talk to breeders who do numbers this is what they observe on average. Right now I am in the Eternity Grow Cup. Those Runtz seed packs (that they were proud enough of to run the competition with) has at least two wildly different phenotypes in the seed packs, as evidenced by numerous diaries including my own. There is a reason anyone who grows for consistency is working with clones only or obsessed with S1s. For example, you can find "MAC" seeds for a few bucks a seed. You want Cap's cut? Those are vault drops all day and could get you a small vehicle for that price... Now to throw another wrench into the gears...what about phenotyping in the true sense of the term (botany). Is Zamnesia's Runtz the same as licensed Runtz? Nope. Both had individual and distinct instances of their parents with a particular genetic domain, leading to distinct Runtz domains for each. Sure, we might get a similarity on appearance or on the terp profile but when science hits the ground running they are different.
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 7 hours ago
seeing this question a lot latley. All seeds are not identical twins of each other, they are their own personalized plant. Think of it like brothers and sisters, Some families all the kids are very similar and creepy. Other families they are very different. This is much like seeds. their genetics are from the mom and dad but vary slightly and their own traits will come though. The environment can also influence some of these differences too. I find when I grow multiple seeds/strains some of them are better as growing roots and taking in nutrients vs others. Just means its more suited for how I grow but in another persons hands the opposite might be true. I don't think your plants are looking deficient in anything though. Both nice looking healthy plants. IDK if your going to hit 10-12OZ n that grow though. tent looks to be a 3x3 or 4x4 but with only 2 plants and 400W seems a bit underpopulated and under powered to hit that target.
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