Is there better Nutrients

Ryanstanlay420
Ryanstanlay420started grow question 4mo ago
I run autos in coco coir 3 in gls pots. I started with humble secret for nutrients I run the full line up Its getting a little expensive for 24 plants Im thing about changing band. Next run Maybe to general hydroponics Canna. Plagron or Advanced nutrients. Any recommendat
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Green_Claws
Green_Clawsanswered grow question 4mo ago
Hi. It’s a pleasure to connect with a fellow gardener. There’s nothing quite like the rhythm of a coco room, and running 24 plants is no small feat—it takes a real eye for detail to manage a canopy that size! 🌿 ​What You're Crushing Right Now 🏆 ​Running autos in 3-gallon pots with coco coir is the "sweet spot" for efficiency. You’re giving those taproots enough vertical space to stretch while maintaining a footprint that allows for high-density yields. By using a full line-up, you’ve clearly prioritized plant health and terpene profiles, which is why your quality is likely top-tier. ​The Budget Bottleneck & The Fix 💸 ​The "problem" isn't your skill; it’s the marketing markup of boutique nutrient lines. When you scale to 24 plants, you're paying a massive premium for water and fancy labels. ​The Switch: If you want to slash costs without losing quality, Canna Coco is the gold standard for coco-specific mineral salts. It’s highly concentrated and stable. General Hydroponics (Flora Series) is the "old reliable"—it’s cheap and effective, though it requires more mixing steps. ​The Pro Move: Avoid Advanced Nutrients if you're trying to save money; they are notorious for having a "bottle for everything," which is exactly the expense you're trying to flee. ​The Solution: Look into Jack’s 3-2-1 or Masterblend. These are dry soluble salts. You stop paying for the shipping of water, and your nutrient cost per gallon drops by about 70-80%. ​The Microbe Secret Sauce 🔬 ​To keep those autos exploding in coco, you need to treat the medium like a living battery. Since coco is inert, adding a microbial inoculant is your best insurance policy against root rot and nutrient lockout. ​The Strategy: Use a high-quality blend of Glomus intraradices (Mycorrhizae) during the first week. ​The "Knowledge" Tip: For 24 plants, don't buy expensive "sweeteners." Instead, use a touch of unsulphured blackstrap molasses or a humic acid supplement. This feeds the microbes, which in turn "pre-digest" the minerals for your roots. ​Microbe Tea: Once every two weeks, run a compost tea or a microbe-rich solution like Recharge or Great White. This increases the cation exchange capacity (CEC) of your coco, making every drop of those cheaper nutrients work twice as hard. ​You’ve clearly got the green thumb to handle a big count, so making this pivot to more efficient salts is going to be a game-changer for your overhead. ​Wishing you heavy harvests and frosty fades on this next run! ✌️
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AestheticGenetix
AestheticGenetixanswered grow question 4mo ago
Try dry amendments. Cheapest route to go. Gaia Green is expensive. But roots organics lasts forever. Every grow on my page has been done with less than 100 of nutrients total. Also the results speak for themselves. The simplicity and the quality and the cost effectiveness make me never want to try anything else ever again. Less than 50 a year on nutrients.
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Rangaku
Rangakuanswered grow question 4mo ago
Can’t recommend Plagron enough man , especially the additional feeds that go with the basic feeds . That green sensation took my quality and harvests to the next level. Give it a go you won’t regret it
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KakalakaKid
KakalakaKidanswered grow question 4mo ago
I love my Botanicare, It has never let me down. I know a lot of folks poopoo then, I have nothing but praise.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4mo ago
Canna. They know their stuff.
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ATLien415
ATLien415answered grow question 4mo ago
whichever of the three has quicker production and more volume in your area, nothing worse than like...being a Foxfarm user in Canada or something you want them well within date, preferably from the manufacturer, and store them properly. all three of what you listed are upper tier bottled lines although advanced is certainly moving away from bottles
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 4mo ago
Something like 'bat guano' is not going to be as consistent. Less consistency leads to more problems. if they fed the bats differently or the bats were picky aobut what they ate, there will be deviations from one batch of bat shit to the next, lol... bat shit and the like will have varying qualities. Compost from a local farm may different composition in each batch... unless they were very specific about what was added to the compost etc and even then i'd expect greater variation in nutritional content by comparison to ingredients used for soilless/hydro contexts.
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSanswered grow question 4mo ago
It’s all the same… When you look at the periodic table of elements, there’s no brand name under the N - P - K The only difference is in the percentage ratio and total concentration. Nutrients don’t make good growers, but good growers makes nutrients look good. You can use tomatoes nutrients for Veg and Geraniums nutrients for flowering it will be the same. The only difference is in the grower talent.
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 4mo ago
You are going to find a greater amount of stratification for the 'organic' and soil-related fertilizers. You'll see less startification with soilless/hydro ingredients. e.g. ingredients like magnesium sulfate, calcium nitrate, ammonium nitrate etc do not vary in quality by brand whatsoever. Whether you use some gardening brand epsom salt or walmart's equate non-scented epsom salt does not matter. Other things that are well known concepts should be applied. The ratio of nitrates to ammonium, for example. There's a known synergy from having at least some portion of nitrogen come from ammonium nitrate vs something faster "acting" (lack of proper vocabulary, but the gist is correct) like calcium nitrate.. I believe it's something like 5% of the total coming from ammonium nitrate is ideal. You'd have to google why that's the case. But, some amatuer brands may not be aware of existing knowledge of such things, and that's where you'll see greater deviations of quality... some niche-specific marijuana brand that never hired a biologist or chemist to properly formulate their products etc etc... and they make mistakes or miss out on benefits due to pure ignorance. A marijuana brand does not mean it's unprofessional, but there are definitely a few out there. Then, you got the greedy ones that break nutrition into 10-15 different bottles, when all you need is 3-4 to properly adjust to various life stage needs. If you go soilless/hydro, i'd suggest Jacks 321... buy their "Part A" 5-12-26 and maybe their No-N 0-12-26 base and any generic calcium nitrate and magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) you can find at cheapest price locally. If you buy the 25lb bags, you pay about 4 cents per gallon or less. Running a 4x4 year round might take you 3-4 years to use up 1 bag of Part A. It's ~3500 gallons worth based on 3.2g/gal usage. IT instructs a bit higher, but averaging out bloom and early vege it's probably closer to my use than as instructed. Even more gallons from the 25lb cal nitrate bag. It's dry, so it stored indefinitely. You can make 100:1 concentrations to dose out at 1mL per L or 1.28 fl oz per gallon - dealer's chouce as 1:100 is 1:100 either way. J.R. Peters (jack's 3-2-1), megacrop, cropsalts, kosher salts, southern ag, masterblend, athena pro line, floraflex (at one time) all have a similar setup with similar ratios of nutes and same 3-part setup. Don't overpay for brand name on this stuff. They are all equivalents.. best price is the best product. Tip - watch out for where they put the trace elements... jacks puts it in part A, so all is fine, but other greedy fucks put it in the stuff you can get cheaper generics... e.g. if they stash it in th eparts you can buy cheaper generics, it forces you to buy their branded cal nitrate or buy some trace elements to add yourself. It's a common formula because it's based on years of knowledge and experience. It's no coincidence that all these companies use a very similar formula.. it's adhering to the same knowledgebase.
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FatnastyzBudz
FatnastyzBudzanswered grow question 4mo ago
I've done the bunch of bottle runs too. Lol I'm not a rep for them, but Plagron was lesser bottles and super easy to use/adjust. Go look at my twinning with apples n bananas. My first Plagron grow.
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 4mo ago
Nutrients don't come better or worse, they come in "final form" (synthetic delivery) or "organic" (shit to be broken down). How you deliver your nutrients is up to you but there is no better or worse, NPK Raw is my personal fave, can really simplify entire thing buying just NPK bloom and grow. Throw in a cal mag, a little goes a long way.
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