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<span class="link_user">@AestheticGenetix</span>, :muscle::pray::muscle::facepunch::fist::ok_hand::point_left::point_right: Thanks for your self-absorbed advice. Super appreaciated. Much love, fam! :muscle::pray::muscle::facepunch::fist::ok_hand::point_left::point_right:

<span class="link_user">@AestheticGenetix</span>, I misread something, blah bla blah. you keep paying 100 dollars for 1 good outcome, bwahah Write 10 emotionally driven replies all within a few minutes. Then, you went and made some nonsense comment to be a douchebag in one of my diaries. Who&#039;s butthurt? Most of what i said wasn&#039;t about you personally, merely pointing out seeds are a plenty good enough option for anyone. You are the one intolerant of people that do something different than what you do and have some sort of irrational superiority complex about it.

<span class="link_user">@AestheticGenetix</span>, well, yeah, if you only get 10% good plants out of seeds, that makes sense, but it&#039;s a number you made up to support your opinion and not an accurate description of reality. I can make things up that lead to the answer i prefer too! LOL, but i won&#039;t It&#039;s fine that you buy cuttings. It&#039;s fine that some people buy seeds. There are pros and cons to each. Acting as if one is superior is ... unnecessary. Clones are not all sunshine and roses. They have a risk of bringing pests and other problems lurking in the medium. Maybe, WPM was &#039;washed&#039; off to sell you the clone but will just grow back in a few days after the sale, lol. Sure, a reputable seller helps, but even those will absolutely fuck you over to avoid losing lots of money if some catastrophe happens, like a WPM issue or worse. Small business owners are not to be trusted. No matter what industry, lol.... Small business owners are actually more shady than the average corporations. Less oversight and fewer repercussions for their antics due to their smaller scale. Also, none of this process is 100% consistent, so it adds even more uncertainty to scheduling and planning which adds to costs, further. Also, my time is more of a factor than the money. To get 8 plants i&#039;d have to grow one or more clones out large enough to take cuttings or spend an exorbitatant 320 dollars on 8 cuttings, which is about 9x more than i spent to get 8 robust plants from seeds (cull the weak!). Not only that but I have to spend a month or more of electricity and time to get 8 successful cuttings. My lost time is worth more than 320 usd. Clones cost more even at a cheap price of 40 usd. The small difference in consistency or quality doesn&#039;t outwiegh seeds for my context and preferences. I notice very little difference in quality between most breeders. Are there some exceptional ones out there? Sure, but only relative to a few, but not all, of their strains offered. So much of breeder perception is about superficial reputation or charging exorbitant prices for the same shit (Anesia), lol. Any adult should know that popularity is not strongly correlated with anything important. A &#039;popular&#039; product is usually the opposite of quality. There&#039;s nothing you can do about the mob making poor choices. The peanut gallery is a bunch of conspiracy theorist anti-vaccers, lol. Expecting them to make good choices based on evidence rather than feelings is a mistake.

<span class="link_user">@AestheticGenetix</span>, Not paying someone 100 usd for a clone that cost virtually nothing to produce. It&#039;s bad enough paying 10/seed that cost a fraction of a cent to make. Too many growers are too willing to throw large amounts of money away on cheaply made things. Need a little discipline... maybe a consumer&#039;s union to rein these grotesquely bloated prices back to acceptable and rational ranges. Start boycotting the price-gougers... there&#039;s no reason for seeds, clones and fertilizer to come with such premium prices. We all suffer because a large number of growers have no understanding of value.

<span class="link_user">@Zizidoem</span>, Anything bottom-feed is not the best, quantitatively speaking.

<span class="link_user">@MS</span>-Treatment-Group, Fuck a lot of these marijuana companies. Greedy little fucks. They make 10,000% margin and have to act like this? Either greedy or incredibly poorly run businesses. I just got screwed by seeds here now. 2 viable seeds out of 10 and their resolution is reward points that don&#039;t cover the replacement AND an exorbitant S/H cost. I have to give them more money for the defective seeds i already bought, lol. My resolution - purchase from a different source in future. I&#039;ll use their reward points to buy something it covers and get a 5-pack for 10 S/H. That&#039;ll be me last transaction with SHN.

<span class="link_user">@Plagron</span>, it&#039;s all aribitrary anyway - it&#039;s a beauty/popularity contest, Just be consistent. If you are consistent, you can ignore the bitching, lol. My comment was more of a generalized dstatement. I don&#039;t even remember specifically what the problem was last time. As far as assessing it all .. maybe you can make the job a bit easier by the judges by doing some common sense filtering of entries. Again, consistency is key and probably want to be on the forgiving side so the judges get a healthy sample to select from. You could do a running list of &#039;top&#039; entries and if you keep it up incrementally, it&#039;s not a lot of work in any 1 sitting. Every week or 2 update your &#039;top&#039; list... (may need to fiddle with exact procedure, but over time it&#039;d work well). It&#039;d help if you can filter by new entries on your end... common sense function of anythinkg with a dB backend, but may not exist &#039;here&#039;, lol. most of my criticism above is directed at the peanut gallery. the &#039;frosty bud&#039; comment was about the uktah contest. probably too strict with the &#039;shouldn&#039;t be allowed in&#039; but defnitely shouldn&#039;t win and would be a good example of common sense filtering. If it&#039;s too much work for the judges to do properly, lessen the load. Can always give them an option to peruse all of the participants, if they so choose, but a pared down list would probably be preferred. Make some standards... maybe don&#039;t publicize it until you really hammer out the best way to filter or assess.. see how it goes &#039;quietly&#039; under the table, then when you&#039;ve tweaked the standards to your liking publish it with any contests info in future.

<span class="link_user">@m0use</span>, Bwahah - THIS! But, pretty sure the group of kids that do this stuff are heavily connected to GD as a whole... almost &#039;state-sanctioned.&#039; Think at least some of them have access to the database. Didn&#039;t some user get in trouble for releasing another user&#039;s home address or something years ago? (before the security breach that exposed everyone to the world) Fucking snake den...

<span class="link_user">@Hashy</span>, This is why i don&#039;t bother. I&#039;ll post a picture or soemthign simple, but i won&#039;t put in 4 months of effort. The 2020 solo cup was the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back. They extended it but only certain people knew it was going to be extended. They also inconsistently applied the rules -- kicking one guy out, while claiming &#039;the rules are the rules,&#039; and then another person was allowed to win a prize while breaking the same rule, lol. Most contests are a joke. It&#039;s as much about who you know and who you glad-hand as much or more than growing. but, the people complaining have a choice... They can always stop participating in something that causes frustration. As long as you don&#039;t take it too seriously, no big deal. The people claiming &#039;i shoulda won&#039; are a bit full of themselves, lol. This stuff, even if honestly judged, is arbitrary at best and more about eh superficial aspects (like presentation) than the important aspects (like actual growing methods). Like the dime-sized &#039;frosty bud&#039; submissions, lol... Yeah, i can take a picture of frosty a preflower, too, but a larfy bud shouldn&#039;t be allowed in such a competition.