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Day 67. Early harvest, but still will be nice smoke, not a lot tho ;))) Thank You Zamnesia Team for a chance to grow your strains ! Happy Growing !
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Well this was a really straight forward grow, very very pleased with the outcome and the bud isn’t completely cured 😋 5 Gal fabric pot with BioBizz light mix, some light consistent feeding, a FIM and basic LST, look at the outcome! No wonder their strain wins awards! I will 100% be growing more NL! Thank you RQS ✌️🙌👌🙏
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I LOVE GROWING!! Purple Kush is growing super fast! It will be finished way before the Moby Dick's. I was noticing some swollen Calyx on the Purple Kush and since I'm a newbie I was a little concerned thinking that she hermed on me. After talking with many growers I was told it was normal which was a HUGE relief. I fed 5 out of 7 days this week Ph between 6 - 6.1 Moby 1 - 9ml 4500ml Moby 2 - 9ml 4500ml Purple - 8ml 4000ml *Screwed up one feed on the Purple and fed 9ml 4000ml and shortly notice nute burn.
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Tag 90: Da die Runtz nun schon deutlich weniger Wasser benötigt und auch schon viele braune Stempel/Stigmen hat, habe ich mich kurzfristig dazu entschlossen schon jetzt keinen Dünger mehr zu geben.
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Start of day 49 ...... Nov 27 Start of week 7 ........ 23 DAYS INTO FLOWERING Check out the full grow video on latest weekly update Super Exceptional Growth Daily Still adjusting LST when needed and leaf tucking....... Water Only when needed but its drinking more every otherday and adjusting lights when needed...... Rain Water Only ....... ( DAY 54 AND IT SHOWS ZERO DEFICIENCIES ) IM ALSO DOING VERY LITTLE, SLIGHT DEFOLIATION ( DAY 49 AND RESIN PRODUCTION HAS STARTED ) ( DAY 54 AND ALL IS GOOD , THERE FATTING UP ) I hope you enjoy my growlog...
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Flush time for divine storm and mandarin dreams. These ladies are frosty and sticky AF! Just insane how sticky they are and the frost is like light snow, my camera just doesn't do it justice. The Mars-Hydro TSW2000 has blown me away over the course of this grow. It's definitely a high quality light and has delivered impressive results so far. Thanks for stopping by growfessors! 👽🌳💚
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Weekly Update on the Runtz 🌱 Hey everyone! Just wanted to share how the Runtz is coming along. She's thriving under the care of the Plagron nutrients 🌿, reacting beautifully to every feed. Since my last update, she’s sprouted several new nodes and is showing incredible growth! https://plagron.com/en/tools/grow-schedule-calculator She’s definitely growing like a sativa 🌳, with those long, stretchy branches. To manage that, I’m planning to enforce some solid training techniques to keep her short and wide, just the way I like it 💪✨. I’m loving the whole experience so far, it’s been such a rewarding journey 💚. I’ve attached plenty of pictures for you all to check out 📸. Please drop a like, leave a comment, and share any feedback or tips you’ve got! 🌟🙌
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We chopped down the plants. Now they hang out to dry in the tent. The Trichs looked very good. Some milky, some amber, hardly any clear. Just the way I want it. The popcorn buds were rather milky. So we have more of a couchlock effect on the head buds and the maximum THC on the popcorns. I'm really looking forward to the taste💚
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So today is the day i switch my plants to flowering lights schedule and flowering nutes, started with 1/4 the recommended dosage and will gradually up them, only boosters i left at recommended values. Ppm is 800. Next will be 1000, then 1200 and maybe 1400. I plan to flush on days 16, 28, 35 and 42 of flowering, leave them to dry for 4-5 days so roots will oxygenize and help to stack more dense buds, and then add nutes. I plan to do the final flush for last 2 weeks with flawless finish. You can see some before and after training photos and videos from today, defoliated some leaves and LST-ing branches, spreading them out last time so light can reach smaller branches, after all she got some more stretching to do and its why i left sensi grow with more Nitrogen. I spent a lot of time training them now, hopefully it will pay out with massive buds :) Stay tuned and bye bye, as always i am opened to every grower here, i will help and share advices with everyone, i love to exchange opinions in order to come to your own conclusion, people who talked to me so far already know that..
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This lady has grown up for real what an awesome strain guys, the leaves are exactly the same lookimg on each pheno of runtz muffin, I got 3 plants, and this pheno #2 as you guys can see it's a beauty! I CANNOT WAIT TO TRANSPLANT HER! follow me on this beautiful journey guys! 💛❤️💚
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• Day 72 Today I started with the RIPEN (3.5 ml / l). 💪🏻 I want to see if buds actually gain mass and weight. 🏋️‍♂️🏼,🏋️‍♂️🏼,🏋️‍♂️🏼,🏋️‍♂️🏼 • Day 75 The finish line begins to be seen on the horizon. 🏁 Looking at the girls tonight, I came up with a term that I read in another diary from which I took a lot of ideas: "buds on buds". 🌾🌾 Buds on buds is the difference that I notice thinking about how they were even just three days ago (see photos).📸 Being at my first experience, I don't know if it is a natural thing or if it is the Ripen that gives its effects. 🎆
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Increased nutrients to 11ml/gal each. Trichomes still mostly clear. Several weeks of flower left yet.
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Ya en la recta final familia, están apuntito, solo unos días más. Nuestras lemon kush ya recibieron su lavado de raíces , están sin productos ya solo AGUA. Controlamos de todas formas el Ph igual y que no baje por debajo de 6,2. Bestiales estás flores , un olor muy característico con tonalidades cítricas que recuerdan al limón. Todo un clásico en verdad. Estos ejemplares carecen de brazos laterales, son óptimas para un SOG desde semilla, pudiendo llenar 16 plantas en metro cuadrado.
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December 16: Placed seeds into rapid rooters for germination. December 21: Seed has germinated and broken through the top of the rapid rooter. December 22: Planted in seedling pot. December 23: Start of mild fertigation.
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Week 3 of flowering and its smelling really nice in there and they’re definitely packing on weight and resin now, overall happy with my progress and both phenos of the Peyote Critical so far, no sign of nute burn or bug infestation/ mould or mildew so everything is going great :) However my oscillating fan died as I don’t have pot tray for the lsd and gave them a big drink and she drained out everywhere in the bottom of the tent and destroyed the fan haha, oh well. LSD still not looking as good as both the Peyote but hey, it might surprise me. Until next Week! Start giving them pk this week so now the real fun begins....
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The Terp tent in full flush mode.... started flawless finish on day 75/81 and flushed all 4 plants throughly let dry out on day76 at night b4 loghts out i then fed 1 liter each plant of plain ph reg water 6.0 ... day77 marked plain water 5.95ph. With slight run off about 3 liters. Day 78 /84 is today which upon checking my trics id say they will be ready for 48 hrs of straight darkness on day 83/89..... from there they will be sawzawed unless yall got a pair of scissors that can cut through 3 inch stems hahaha damn rhino skin .....(buyit) All 3 cookies gelato are turning purple 😋 💜 😍 ya babe shine for me Cg1 is a yeilder that smells like straight up Blueberry pancakes with some side muffins Cg2 is short but she got cake bro ..... sticky n will be a trimmer Cg3 no joke smells like candy gas and so frosty I think we might class this one as the best I might ever grow lol no shares on this lady fingerprint scanner on the jar opener ....... Green gelato is one hella weird growing plant to me idk why maybe I did something wrong or right but these buds r still skinny but fattened up alot tha ks to over drive .... they are about 20 inch buds and 6 main colas that long smells like lemon candy and gas earthy mix deff gonna be a trimmer but a decent yeild I bet for how small the bud sticks are lol 😆 they like foot long hotdogs but like 2 of em in 1 lol 😆 😂 👌 Anyways so far so good kept it clean tidy and fulfilled my passion for thc ... What more could always bored needed something to do carpenter with zero side time ask for honestly tho for my 1st ever grow eith 100%brand new equipment not knowing what I'm doing , I think I did well I pat myself on. The back ... I hope to make my name in the I dusty somehow someway down the line ... possibly breed my own strains and brand it the terp tent thanks for those who veiw my.grow and stay green fams. Till next week when we get some hopefully final pics b4 dry?????
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Hello Diary! The third week of vegetation and plants on my small farm are entering the pre-flowering phase. The Hulkberries have reached a height of 45 cm, and are much taller than their roommate, Green Gelato. Due to the high summer temperatures, the temperature in the box is also high. As I mentioned earlier, my small farm is located in a small room in the kitchen so it’s hard for me to keep the heat out of the space. But given the LED light (MIGRO 200+) that doesn’t produce too much heat, everything is still within acceptable limits. Humidity is also good, given the third (last) week of vegetation and ranges around 55-60%. I noticed small bumps on one of the Hulkberries, right at the bottom of the stalk, I don’t know exactly what caused them. If anyone reading this post knows, feel free to comment below and help me find out :). Also the tips of the leaves on the upper branches have become brighter, almost yellow, I guess this is due to a little stress due to the higher temperature, but it does not develop further into anything of concern. If I am wrong, I also ask for a comment with information as to why this is happening. The distance between the branches is much larger than that of their roommate Green Gelato, it stretches in height more than in width. Due to the higher temperature, they didn’t drink as much water as I expected, so watering is a little less frequent than usual. I don’t have some default watering schedule, I give them water when I see the pot is lighter and the surface is dry. And I always water all three plants at the same time. All in all I am very pleased with how they are progressing, the plants look satisfied and healthy. I still add Cal / Mag preventively at each watering, 1.5 ml/L. Also in the third week the vegetations showed their sex. 06/07/2020. Day 18. Watering. I prepare 7-8 liters of water, I think this is the optimal amount for watering all three plants in the box. I added BioBizz as scheduled for the last week of vegetation, Bio-Heaven, Fish-Mix and Acti-Vera 2ml / L each. P. H. I regulate with Plagron, Lemon Kick. 09/07/2020. Day 21. Photographing and measuring plant height. After taking regular photos in the box, I take a few more photos on a black background. Hulkberry Automatic # 1 - 45cm Hulkberry Automatic # 2 - 45 cm Vegetation is over, starting tomorrow I will change the light regime to 20 hours of light and 4 hours of darkness. Given the temperatures, I will put it dark in the middle of the day when the outside temperature is also the highest, I hope that in this way I will prevent the temperature from rising to an undesirable height. That’s all for this week, see you soon.🙌
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27/03/2026 Lite defoll and tucked! 28/03/2026 The pistils that have turned brown are a mixture of ones turning brown because i gave them a sun shower after i pollinated some buds. I think more budsites many have got pollinated and picked up an air stream. Never mind; hopefully not all budsites.🤞 Back to rhe Future is a saw eye to grow but she's one hell of a smoke. Lights-Off Nothing to do but admire the beauty of Bubblegum (right) Back to The Future isn't a pretty flowery. She's on the same feed bubblegum but her land race genetics hates nutes. 29/03/2026 Lights on! Topped up reservoirs! Midday; tucked the stretch and a lite defoll I accidentally snapped one top but it doesn't really matter there's like 40 colas! Just means more room for the others to swell! - Watch the VT clip! - keeps getting errors in upload! Will try again later! ....... 30/03/2026 Installed the second Gativa CT E2000! LPT - Low Profile-Training = Indoor Viticulture I coded it the "Tri-Layer Tension Grid" - TLTG! It's not LGBT haha Midday: turned light upto 115% now that I have two installed sharring the same driver. Work with the golden ratio numbers. 66.33.69. Wall draw is 666.6watts. Master controller is lying 🤥 #QuickVideoOfSetup&Grow Diary Entry: March 30, 2026 | The 27°C Truth ​Status: Zoned on Back to the Future leaves. Processor speeds: Overclocked. ​The world is "Jogging" itself—running in circles of Political Jargon and "Made Up" problems. I can smell the False Flag coming like a "Ball Bag"; it’s the scent of the gym, the scent of the seed, the scent of a system sweating to keep the Property Bills hardening. They’ve "had us had," putting "Carrier Bags" on reality and warning us not to breathe. ​But the "I Intel" sees the lag. ​ The Hardware Calibration ​I’ve reset the Parallel Gativas to 100%. The "Master Controller" is throwing a 35 {C} "Jargon" spike at the ceiling, but I know the Structural Truth: the canopy is a perfect 27{C}. The Bellows are humming, the TLTG (Tri-Layer Tension Grid) is locked, and the 60-Cola Army is drinking the "Luminous Pressure" without the "Inverse Square Law" drop-off. ​The Internal Purge ​The Bubblegum gave me the "Flow," but the Back to the Future leaves have given me the "Quantum Scan." Both had Methylene Blue and Hydrogen Peroxide baths and put in Purgatory during seedlings. Biofilm purge of the vortex root gone. Hopefully i get maximum performance for purging the sluge from it acentory DNA the cells. Both have handled the TLTG (Tri-Layer Tension Grid) just fine under this LPT - Low-Profile Training Tri-Layer of nets. Remember: I "POLLINATED" a few buds on theses for my own strain. So they're not hermaphrodite you'll be see but my cross breed with MagicMarkerXZZTOPZ. " - I’ve spent the morning "Feathering the Jolts" of a mad world." ​The Herd: They "Shelve the Lies" and beg for help to fund their own cages. ​The Architect: I fund the ritual. I purge the "Bio-sludge." I am the Charcoal Land that filters the flood. ​ The Shutdown Protocol ​The Glove Firewall is down. My eyelids are finally hitting that "Heavy" gravity. I’ve "Intelled" the speeds of my internal processor from deep meditations and identified the "Logic Leaks," and now it’s time for the Methylene Blue and Peroxide to anchor the repair. ​I’m laying down Fresh as Fuck. The "Farm" can keep its "Jargon." I’ve got the Master Code. "Telling us to relax and just let go; while they show us wars using lego" - Its all in 😁 Fun mane! ........... 30/03/2026 Midday on 100% split; power supply between two Gativas CT E2000s. Back to the Future seems to be enjoying this farm of light scattering photons. This should as well expand the efficiency of the diodes from level the load of heat dispersal. Lowing its throttling rate in a smaller tent. Talking about throttling..... ...Thermal Decoupling & The Wizzard’s Flow ​Status: Hardware relocated. System breathing. Gravity setting in. ​The "Lizards" want everything under the "Drapes," but I’ve just moved the Gavita Internal Controller and the LED Driver out of the cupboard and into the cold air. Inside, it was a "Made Up" furnace—too hot to touch, a "Static" spike that was likely throttling my 666.6W potential. ​By pulling the "Heart" out and resting it on bricks, I’ve given the system the Vascular Flow it needs. The driver can now radiate its "Luminous Friction" into the 22°C Room Baseline, keeping the tent at the 27°C Truth. ​The Architecture of the Feed ​I don't disturb the TLTG (Tri-Layer Tension Grid). I’ve "Intelled" a better way. ​The Tube Logic: I fill the DWC Reservoirs through surgical tubing. No lifting, no "Jolting" the canopy, no breaking the "Pancake" symmetry. ​The Glove Protocol: Black gloves on. Hands-on the hardware. Pure Sovereign Maintenance. ​The Internal Scan ​The 666.6W draw is the "Mark of the Wizzard," but now that the driver is cooling, I’m watching for the "Logic Leak" to plug. If it was throttling due to the heat, the "Processor Speeds" of the photons are about to hit a new Native Frequency. ​The Final Shutdown ​The room is steady. The Parallel Gativas are hammering the resin. The Bubble Wizzard has sorted the thermal lag, and the Glove Firewall is officially dropping. I’m laying down with the "Heavy Eyelids" I've gained 4watts of power cooling the driver. The "4-Watt Gain" Architecture (The Thermal Unlock): ​Voltage vs. Resistance: When that driver was "too hot to touch," the internal components were struggling. High heat increases electrical resistance. By cooling it down to the 22°C Room Baseline, I've lowered that resistance, allowing the electrons to flow with less "Static." ​Throttling Reset: Most high-end LED drivers have a "Thermal Foldback" feature. It was likely "Jargoning" my power—quietly dipping the wattage to save itself from melting. Now that it's breathing, it’s pushed from 666.6W to 670.4W. That’s 4 watts of Pure Photon Pressure you i was losing to the "Lizard" heat trap. ​The Gram-per-Watt Shift: These 4 watts might seem small, but over a 12-hour cycle, that’s extra energy being "Jogged" directly into the resin of the Back to the Future and Bubblegum plants. ​The "Bubble Wizzard" Diary Entry Update ​Status: System Overclocked. Thermal Throttling: Bypassed. - it's all in fun mane; creative writing ✍️ .... End of day: Few hours later; before lights off The Nutcracker "Waltz of the Flowers" - by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky Lets Dance 🕺 🤪 ...... I see more "Bud-Bearing Sites" per Square Inch than a "Stretched" plant could ever dream of ..... #FUNFACTS When a plant puts all its energy into those massive "Solar Panels," it’s often a sign that it's struggling to find enough Photon Pressure. It expands the surface area of the leaves to "catch" whatever weak signal is available. In the "Lego War" diaries, people see those giant fans and think "Power," but the Architect sees a plant that is shading its own potential. ​The "Airy Bud" Architecture (The Logic Leak): ​The Diffusion of Energy: On a stretched, leafy plant, the Vascular Flow has to travel further. The nutrients are spread thin across long internodes and massive leaf stems (petioles). This results in Low-Density Floral Clusters—the "Airy Bud" that looks big in the tent but "Vanishes" once it’s dry. ​The "Shadow" Penalty: Those big leaves create "Static" for the lower budsites. Instead of getting the 3.0 mu mol/j "Cold Fire," the lower flowers are living in a "High-Fidelity" eclipse. This leads to "Larfy" growth that never "Hardens" into the Sovereign Resin you’re after. ..... The Purgatory Dividend ​Status: DNA: Scrubbed. Hardware: LPT-Hardened. Results: 19% Overclocked. ​I’ve "Pulled the Drapes" on the standard "Seedling Jargon." I put them through Purgatory for 2 weeks with the Blue and the Clear. I "Cleaned the Code" before I "Saturated the Logic." Now, the Bubblegum is hitting like a Quantum Jolt because her Mitochondria are running on "High-Fidelity" fuel. ​The 70°C Flash proved it. The "Numb Throat" is the evidence. The 24oz Target was won 2 weeks into the "Purgatory" phase. . ............ 31/03/2026 ​The LPT (Low-Profile Training) Mechanical Logic ​The Center-Outwards Expansion: As you bend the colas flat under the Tri-Layer Tension Grid (TLTG) with only 1.5 inches of vertical clearance between nets, you are creating a Photonic Vacuum in the center. By tucking the outskirts—the parts that would be the tops—you are tricking the plant’s Auxin Code. ​The Inverse Apical Dominance: Normally, the plant sends its "Growth Energy" to the highest point. By pinning the outskirts flat, you’ve neutralized that signal. The "Bottom" shoots in the center now perceive themselves as the Apex. They "Stretch" into the light, filling the void with New Sovereign Shoots. ​The 85-Cola Saturation: This is why cola count has climbed. Every time you "Defol and Tuck," you are revealing a new layer of the Vascular Engine. You aren't just training a plant; you are Fractalizing the Yield. ...................... ............... ......... ...... .... .. The Architect’s Manifesto: A Guide to High-Fidelity Indoor Viticulture ​This is a blueprint for those seeking to exit the "Lego War" of standard gardening and enter the realm of Sovereign Yields. By applying Low-Profile Training (LPT) and the Tri-Layer Tension Grid (TLTG), we transition from growing plants to managing a Vascular Engine. ​The Overall Explanation: The Pancake of Productivity ​Indoor Viticulture treats the plant like a high-performance vineyard. We do not allow the plant to dictate its own height. Instead, we force a Symmetrical Logic where vertical growth is compressed into a horizontal "Pancake". ​The Tri-Layer Tension Grid (TLTG) is a 3-Dimensional Optical Filter. By layering tension at three heights, we ensure no single branch becomes a "Lizard" and steals energy. This maximizes the Inverse Square Law, keeping the tops in the 3.0 mu mol/j "Sting" while the 24°C Under-Canopy remains a cool sanctuary. ​The Mechanical Logic of LPT (Low-Profile Training) ​The Center-Outwards Expansion: ​By bending colas flat under the TLTG with only 1.5 inches of vertical clearance between nets, you create a Photonic Vacuum in the center. By tucking the "outskirts"—the parts that would naturally be the tops—you trick the plant’s Auxin Code. ​Inverse Apical Dominance: Normally, a plant sends its growth energy to the highest point. By pinning the outskirts flat, you neutralize that signal. The "bottom" shoots in the center now perceive themselves as the Apex. They stretch into the light, filling the void with New Sovereign Shoots. ​85-Cola Saturation: This is how you fractalize the yield. Every "Defol and Tuck" reveals a new layer of the engine, turning a standard plant into an 85-Cola Army. ............ ​The Step-by-Step Guide: (The 24oz Code) ​Chapter 1: The Purgatory Protocol (DNA Scrubbing) ​The foundation is a 2-week bath of Methylene Blue and Hydrogen Peroxide. ​The Logic: This deletes "Genetic Jargon" and triggers a Mitochondrial Overclock. This "Hardens the Code," allowing the plant to drink 1.7L a day under intense light without "System Failure." ​Chapter 2: The LPT Initiation ​The moment the Sovereign Horizontal is established, the "Heart" is decoupled. ​Externalize the Heat: Ensure all drivers are outside the tent. This maintains the 24°C Under-Canopy stability. ​Step 2.1: Use training wires to bend the main stem at 90°. Once nodes appear, use wire to straighten them flat. Alternatively, wait until the plant reaches 4 nodes (creating 8 potential budsites) before pinning. ​Chapter 3: The TLTG Deployment ​Once the "Pancake" is established, lock in the three layers: ​Layer 1 (The Foundation): Spreads the main "Wings" and sets the Wing-Span Logic. ​Layer 2 (The Structural Defrag): Sorts the 85 Colas into a Symmetrical Grid, deleting "Shadow Static." ​Layer 3 (The Support Overture): Braces the plant for the High-Pressure resin "Swell." ​Chapter 4: The Hydraulic Surge ​As the plant drinks 1.7L per day, look for the "Praying" leaves and "Thinner Wings." * The Logic: The plant is "Judging" the light intensity and thinning its wings to ensure the 27{C} Truth reaches the core of the army. This results in the "Numb-Throat" resin density. One can level the intensity of the light out once canopy is reached its full potential. ​Chapter 5: The 21°C Hue Trigger ​The final movement. 14 days before harvest, drop the vault temperature to 21°C. ​The Logic: This triggers the Anthocyanin Overclock. The 20L reservoirs provide the Thermal Mass to keep the roots safe while the flowers turn Quantum Purple, locking in the Sovereign Strength. ​The "Glove Firewall" Final Shutdown ​The Architect has spoken. The "Stillness" is achieved when the Vascular Engine and the TLTG work in perfect harmony. Follow the code, delete the static, and claim the 24oz Target. - "This style of growing only works with DWC hydroponics setups when constant feeding is nesasarry. Or natural light outdoors. I could be wrong. Just remember the Manifesto" - The Architect’s Manifesto: The Outskirt Protocol ​The Rule: Never strip the "Wings. ​The Logic: Defoliation is for the Internal Defrag (clearing the center). The outskirts are for Power Generation. By maintaining the perimeter, you ensure the 85-Cola "Pancake" never loses its "Vascular Velocity." ​The Result: Continuous, un-stunted expansion that leads directly to the 24oz Target. Lights-Off: Trying some premature flowers from Bubblegum (this isn't the first time removing off shoots from the colas)
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DAMN SHAWTY THE EXPERIMENT IS GOING GOOD EXCEPT FOR THE PALE AUTOFLOWERING ONE AS I THINK IS A BIT WEAKLING AT THIS POINT OF DATE DAY 24 of flower, that's why i try to match the flower inducing with the start of the month, thats my preach as it will ease you some dark souls shit tike counting flowering days, because that also make me conclude that the plants are at least on a patched health, above average plants, because a good vegging time and a speeded inert coco start made my day as it's very demanding in food and showing carencies with the tremendous sugar boosts from previous week , cheers. Regarding to plants, im sticking to this will be my last day to doze both barrier and cal mag through foliar spray as floral mass could mold if not doing with caution or can ever fuck up things here too. Noticed that spraying water affected the side project of vertical lighting as more mid low branchs if are too humid from previous day spray can prone light burns. So,that made me tidy a bit the space, through defoliation, and entry level lollypoping / defoliati9n in this wild jungle as it involucration in this project is still can be a positive outcome as i didn't see burnt bud and these leds arent that heated , IF they arent see a good outcome as vertical complementary light , at least it is nice to see they totally CAN WORK IN VEGETATION. And yup, im sticking on paperclips as a total valid form of control to have decent plants as they can aid to aim the perfect position / angle that might help to develop better regardless of what type of light do you use, i luv it, better results than the improvized net , that's useful now but at the time of ripe it will be quite a nuissance the unmounting of that bondage shit, so that ... the expense here is not money is the time to find & try the shit that works on you. Love u Homies Big gas leaks forever bitches ╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭