1-17 Seems silly to start a week, but she is alive. For now 😱 Locked her up at sleep time today. I'll check on her Sunday. She is figuring out whats going on. 😂 Since last night was her last light night,( say that one 5 times fast 😂) I let Guy and Luna say their farewells. August just wanted to play. Made for some fun pictures. 😁🤘

Day 47 for this girl. This monkey is getting tall. Real sativa this girl, cant wait for the monkey to get fat. Starting with preflowering nutes this week as this monkey stays thirsty

Hallo liebe Growfreunde 🤗 Zum Abschluss der Woche wurde heute umgetopft in die Endtöpfe 😎. Hierbei handelt es sich um 15 Liter Autopot 1 Pot system mit 6 Töpfen. Für die , die es nicht kennen, es handelt sich um ein automatisches Bewässerungssystem, dass nur mit Schwerkraft arbeitet. Benutze es zum ersten Mal, deshalb kann ich nicht viel dazu sagen. War easy zum installieren, mal schauen ob es hält was es verspricht. In den Wassertank kommt nur PH korrigierten Wasser und CalMag. Gedüngt wird nur mit Greenhouse Powder dass ich unter die Erde gemischt habe. So in 2 Wochen etwa, werde ich sie in blüte schicken. Kein topping, ich denke mit 2 Sanlight habe ich genug Tiefenwirkung und Platz nach oben hab ich auch😁. So, jetzt hoffe ich dass sich meine Ladies schnell erholen und schön weiter wachsen☺️☺️☺️ euch allen einen schönen Sonntag und morgen einen grandiosen Wochenstart💞

WELL! What an experience. I made some mistakes, learned a lot and still got some excellent weed out of it. Super frosty, LOUD and SO dense it's ridiculous 😂 Sadly i got some (a lot for me) mold, i encountered for the very first time. With it being almost winter in Germany, the temps dropped really hard for some days and then even 60% humidity was too much for the strain. I also would say it isn't that resistant against mold, so just keep that in mind, the buds are so dense, it's really easy for them to trap water. I had to throw away like 1/4 of the yield, mostly the top buds 💀 That kinda sucked, but it could be worse, it's fire weed tho, i'll add pictures of the buds later.

On day 81, the plant has shifted resources into bud development and the results have been beautiful, the plant has also flourished with low doses of nutrients in order to avoid nutrient stress. The buds are sticky to the touch and give a slight citrus and cherry/raspberry smell, with continued purple transformation of the plants cells.

🌱✨ Super Sativa Seed Club Germination Report! ✨🌱 Hey fellow green thumbs! 🌿 Today, we're diving into the exciting world of germination with our latest run from Super Sativa Seed Club. Buckle up, because it's going to be a fun and informative ride! We started our germination journey with the trusty Cannakan method. This approach is a game-changer for seed enthusiasts looking for robust and quick germination. Here’s how it went down: Initial Soak: Our seeds (Auto Fast Pete and Auto Northern Dragon Fuel) took a luxurious bath in water for about 30 hours. This soaking period is crucial as it wakes up the seeds and starts the germination process. 🌊🌱 Once our seeds had a good soak, we moved them to soil. This transition is where the magic really begins! The seeds were carefully placed into a rich, well-draining soil mix to ensure they had the best start possible. 🌟 Genetic Breakdown: 1. Auto Fast Pete: Lineage: This auto-flowering marvel comes from a lineage of speed demons, known for their rapid growth and resilience. Characteristics: Expect a robust plant with a quick life cycle, perfect for those looking to get results fast. Auto Fast Pete is renowned for its sturdy structure and abundant yields. Flavor & Effects: With a sweet and spicy profile, it’s a treat for the senses. The effects are balanced, offering a pleasant, uplifting high that's perfect for any time of the day. 2. Auto Northern Dragon Fuel: Lineage: A powerhouse combination of Northern Lights and Dragon Fuel genetics, this strain is all about strength and vigor. Characteristics: Known for its impressive growth and high resin production, Auto Northern Dragon Fuel is a cultivator's dream. It has a slightly longer life cycle compared to Auto Fast Pete but rewards with larger yields. Flavor & Effects: A complex blend of earthy, pine, and fuel notes, it’s both intriguing and satisfying. The high is potent and relaxing, making it great for unwinding after a long day. 🌱🌿 What to Expect: Fast Growth: With Auto Fast Pete, you’ll see rapid development. It's like watching nature's express train! Resilient Plants: Both strains are known for their toughness. They handle stress well and are forgiving to minor cultivation errors. Impressive Yields: Expect a bountiful harvest from both strains. Auto Northern Dragon Fuel might take a bit longer, but the wait is worth it. Aromatic & Flavorful Buds: Get ready for a sensory delight with rich, complex aromas and flavors. 🌍🌟 Conclusion: Germination is just the beginning of our exciting journey with Super Sativa Seed Club's Auto Fast Pete and Auto Northern Dragon Fuel. These genetics promise not only a rewarding cultivation experience but also top-notch end products. Whether you’re a seasoned grower or a curious newbie, these strains offer something special for everyone. Stay tuned for more updates as our plants grow and flourish! Happy growing, and may your gardens always be green and bountiful. 🌿💚✨ Germination method 🌱 @thecannakan Genetics @supersativaseedclub_official Nutrition @aptusholland 🌿 @aptus_world 🌎 @aptus_es 🌍 @aptusbrasil 🌱 @aptus_thailand 🌿 @aptus_portugal 🌳 @aptususa_official 🍀 @aptusplanttechnz 🌺 @aptusplanttechaus 🍃 Ambient controls🎮 @trolmaster.eu @trolmaster.eu.support @trolmaster.support @trolmaster.agro Soil @promix_growers_eur @promix_cannabis LED - @lumatekeu Watering- @autopot_usa @autopot_global Love and attention- @dogdoctorofficial As always thank you all for stopping by, for the love and for it all , this journey of mine wold just not be the same without you guys, the love and support is very much appreciated and i fell honored and so joyful with you all in my life 🙏 With true love comes happiness 💚🙏 Always believe in your self and always do things expecting nothing and with an open heart , be a giver and the universe will give back to you in ways you could not even imagine so 💚 More info and complete updates from all my adventures can be found ⬆️link in the profile description ⬆️ Friendly reminder all you see here is pure research and for educational purposes only 💚Growers Love To you All 💚 #SuperSativaSeedClub #GerminationReport #FastPete #NorthernDragonFuel #PlantMagic #GardeningJoy #NatureLovers #PlantPower #Inspire #GrowYourOwn #aptus #aptusplanttech #aptusgang #aptusfamily #aptustrueplantscience #inbalancewithnature #trolmaster #trolmastereurope #trolmastersecrets #Autopots #sssc

Hi everyone this week was okay it seems to have gotten a little bit unwell with the leaf rust I have treated it today though. like with the banana purple punch it was due to me not having my carbon filter with me at the time so I had higher humidity at night but that is all sorted now . Feeding with 400 PPM of the X pert nutrient line pH at 5.8 hopefully she will get better I can see it's stunted her a little bit. See what next week brings thank you for looking at the diary and remember it's 420 somewhere 🌱👍

Que pasa familia, volvemos el viernes con las power plant xL del banco Zambezaseeds, la verdad que estoy sorprendido con el Aroma que desprenden estos ejemplares, es muy dulce y fuerte. Han crecido bastante a diferencia del resto, sacaron brazos largos y llenos de flores. Conseguimos bajar la humedad y eso se agradece por la etapa que afrontamos de floración. Estás tú ultimas semana sin añadiremos PK en polvo. Hemos tutorado las power plant xL debido a la altura y el peso de la flor en si, ahorramos problemas futuros estás semanas y las centramos al engorde.

This plants has got pretty big, she's about to be Transplanted into her new home, hope she has long internodes and very beautiful sativa leaves,very elegant, I love this plant, however looks like she's gonna stretch quite a bit during flower so I'll try to keep as low as I possibly can, let's see how this lady keeps developing growmies around the world!!! ❤️💚💛 #probioticgardening this lady has been Transplanted to her definitive 30l pot on day 34 since planted may 5th

@1.5 kPa Partially harvested, waiting a week or mby 2 for the rest to ripen a bit more.

GG4 Clone day 136 10-15-24 - Gave 4 cup of feed water GG4 Clone day 139 10-18-24 - Gave 4 cups of regular water & 4 cups of feed water w/ (Grow Big & Cal-mag boost) GG4 Clone day 141 10-20-24 - Gave 4 cups of feed water & 4 cups of rgr & rcm water GG4 Clone day 143 10-22-24 - Gave 4 cups of feed water and 4 cups of rgr/rcm water

Wow look at her this week!!!!!! Quite a change!!! She's almost done. Harvest in 7 days I'm thinking.

Week 6 - Transition to Flower (First Bloom Week) The Donutz squad has officially entered the bloom phase, kicking off the first week of flower in style. The upgrade to 7L pots has gone smoothly, and the plants are thriving in their new space. Monday marked the start of the flowering cycle, and everything is set up for an efficient and productive Sea of Green. Setup Adjustments: Canopy Leveling: The taller plants in the front row are left as-is, while the shorter ones in the back have been placed on top of the empty 3.7L pots. This ensures an even canopy for maximum light distribution. Defoliation: Everything under the net that wouldn’t develop into usable bud — based on past experience — has been trimmed away. The focus is now entirely on the top canopy and cola production. Nutrients & Care: Flowering Nutrients: Greenhouse Feeding Bloom is in play, with 30g applied per 7L pot (following the recommended 3-5g per liter). This should carry the plants through the stretch phase and provide a strong start for flower development. Watering: Still cruising with reverse osmosis (RO) water, keeping things clean and steady. Light Intensity: Slowly ramping up the light week by week to avoid shocking the plants, aiming for full intensity once they’ve settled into the flowering phase. Plans for the Stretch & Beyond: A second net is ready to go for after the stretch, ensuring the canopy remains supported and those fat nugs don’t collapse under their own weight. Continued monitoring of canopy height and plant health as they shift their energy into flowering. Observations: The Donutz are responding well to the flowering transition, with no visible stress. The even canopy and clean lollipop structure are setting the stage for optimal bud production. Everything is lining up perfectly for a strong flowering run. The Donutz are about to shine, and the tent is poised to deliver a heavy, uniform harvest. The Florida Gang energy is real — time to watch the nugs stack!

Epic Harvest Chronicle: The Journey of Panty Punch Auto In the annals of our cultivation journey, there exists a tale of unparalleled growth, resilience, and triumph. Join me as we embark on an epic chronicle, tracing the extraordinary journey of Panty Punch Auto from a humble seed to a majestic harvest, overcoming obstacles and defying expectations at every turn. Our saga begins with the planting of a single seed, filled with the promise of potential and the whisper of destiny. From the moment she emerged from the soil, Panty Punch exuded an aura of vitality and vigor, her roots delving deep into the earth as if driven by an ancient force. As Panty Punch grew, so too did the challenges that beset her path. With each passing day, she stretched towards the heavens with an insatiable thirst for light and life, threatening to outgrow her confines. It was then that we intervened, bending and securing her with sticks and glue, a testament to our determination and ingenuity in the face of adversity. Rooted in organic soil enriched with Aptus nutrients, Panty Punch flourished under the gentle care of nature-inspired solutions. From seedling to harvest, she received a balanced diet of essential minerals and organic compounds, fueling her growth and vitality. It's a testament to the power of soil and nutrients in cultivating robust and vibrant plants, and Aptus has undoubtedly played a pivotal role in our success. In all my years of cultivation, I've never beheld anything quite like Panty Punch Auto. She stands as a towering testament to the potential of autoflowering genetics, defying convention and surpassing all expectations. From her towering height to her abundant foliage, she is by far the largest auto I've ever had the pleasure of growing. It's a testament to the marvels of modern breeding and the boundless possibilities that lie within the realm of autoflowering cannabis. Guided by the radiant glow of the Lumatek Zeus LED, Panty Punch thrived under the sun-like spectrum of light that bathed her in brilliance. From vegetative growth to flowering, the results spoke for themselves, with dense buds and resinous trichomes adorning her branches like jewels in a crown. The Lumatek Zeus proved to be the cornerstone of our success, providing the perfect balance of intensity and efficiency to fuel Panty Punch's journey to harvest. Throughout her growth cycle, Panty Punch was under the watchful gaze of the TrolMaster Tent-X, a marvel of modern cultivation technology. With precision control over every aspect of her environment, from temperature and humidity to lighting schedules, the Tent-X ensured that Panty Punch had everything she needed to thrive. It's not just a controller; it's the key to unlocking the full potential of our cultivation endeavors. Rooted in the rich genetic lineage of her parents, Panty Punch Auto is a testament to the breeding prowess of Seedstockers. According to the breeders, she is the progeny of select auto-flowering genetics, carefully bred to exhibit exceptional vigor, potency, and yield. With each generation, her lineage has been refined and perfected, resulting in the awe-inspiring specimen that stands before us today. As we bid farewell to Panty Punch Auto, we do so with a sense of awe and reverence for the journey we've shared. From seed to harvest, she has been a beacon of resilience and vitality, a testament to the power of nature and human ingenuity. And as we savor the fruits of our labor, we extend heartfelt thanks to Aptus Holland for their unwavering support, to TrolMaster for their innovative technology, to Grow Diaries for the platform that connects us all, and to the vibrant community of growers for their endless inspiration and camaraderie. In the end, Panty Punch Auto stands not just as a plant, but as a symbol of what is possible when we dare to dream and nurture those dreams into reality. May her legacy endure for generations to come. #PantyPunchAutoAdventure #RootsAndFruits #TrolMasterControl #GrowDiariesCommunity #CultivationExcellence Genetics - Panty Punch Auto - https://seedstockers.com/ Plant nutrition - Aptus Holland - https://aptus-holland.com LED Photons - Lumatek - https://lumatek-lighting.com Controls - Trol Master - https://www.trolmaster.eu/ Watering - myself Love and attention - Me, myself and i As always thank you all for stopping by, for the love and for it all , this journey of mine wold just not be the same without you guys, the love and support is very much appreciated and i fell honored and blessed with you all in my life, With true love comes happiness. Always believe in your self and always do things expecting nothing and with an open heart , be a giver and the universe will give back to you in ways you could not even imagine so More info, the ocasional give-away and exclusive updates from all my adventures can be found - links in the profile description Friendly reminder all you see here is pure research and for educational purposes only Growers Love To you All 💚 💚 💚

~ GG4 SHERBET FAST FLOWER by FastBuds ~ Well fam, here we go again with another epic strain from FastBuds Fast Flowering stable. After having such tremendous success growing their Gorilla Cookies Fast Flower outdoors last year, I've decided to run another of their fast flowering strains outdoors this year... GG4 Sherbet Fast Flower! The best description of this awesome cultivar comes directly from my friends at FastBuds which is as follows: "Bred from extremely potent and flavorful Gorilla Glue and Orange Sherbet genetics, GG4 Sherbet FF (Fast-Flowering) takes all the best traits to the next level, offering a high-yielding strain that can produce up to 600 g/m2 in a 7-week flowering time. This super resilient Indica-leaning hybrid thrives indoors and outdoors, and in all types of climates while producing mouth-watering sweet, fruity, spicy and earthy terps that translate into a delicious sugary hazelnut aroma. Expect an extremely relaxing and overall happy effect that’ll leave you with a huge smile from ear to ear. It’s the perfect strain for growers of all levels of experience seeking low-maintenance yet highly productive photoperiod varieties that deliver quality and quantity without extra effort. GG4 Sherbet FF grows chunky buds with long dark orange hairs and spade-shaped calyxes that get encrusted with trichomes by harvest time, giving them a gorgeous silvery-white appearance. This medium-sized photoperiod can reach up to 200 cm in height and yields up to 650 g/m2 while developing that typical hybrid structure. GG4 Sherbet FF grows with a stocky, bushy appearance, developing one sturdy main cola and fat side branches that support huge yields without much effort. This super-fast variety produces distinctive light-green buds with a high bud-to-leaf ratio, making your trimming sessions a breeze. It’s a top-notch resin producer that doesn’t need much maintenance and will thrive in almost every climate, rewarding growers of all levels with extremely flavorful resin that makes for outstanding hash end extracts." ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The Setup: This is going to be an outdoor grow, but I have started the GG4 Sherbet Fast Flower indoors as our weather is still too cold to put her outside (nighttime temp's dipping regularly into the 30's℉). The plan is simple... let her grow inside under a 19/5 light schedule until the nighttime temperatures stay above the mid 40's℉, at which point she'll be moved outside and transplanted into the soil which I have already setup and inoculated with beneficial microbes, and then let the fun begin!🤪💚 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Weekly Updates: 4/11- Here we go into the second week of life for my FastBuds GG4 Sherbet Fast Flower and she's doing really well! All I'm doing right now is making sure that her medium remains moist, watering only when necessary. I'm checking her root development daily and she will be ready to transplant outdoors any day now! 4/13- Today is TRANSPLANT DAY! I moved the GG4 Sherbet outside to her prearranged 'new home' which I had previously prepped by adding some Coco/Perlite into the soil to improve the texture and drainage. I then pre-amended the soil with Gaia Green 4-4-4 All Purpose slow release dry amendment along with 3g of Wiggle Worm castings, 2 cups of ground Alfalfa and 1/4 cup of Extreme Gardening's MYCOS. After which, I kept the soil moist to allow the microbial colony to populate for a week. To transplant, I first made a hole then placed a Solo cup in it to make sure that the depth was adequate, then packed the medium up against the cup firmly which leaves a nice Solo cup shaped hole in the ground. I then wet the inside of the hole that I formed and coated the hole with Extreme Gardening's MYCOS root enhancer, after which I removed the GG4 Sherbet from her Solo cup and placed her snugly into her new home! After planting her in the ground all that was left to do was lightly water her in... Let the fun begin!🤪 4/15- The GG4 Sherbet FF from FastBuds is doing extremely well in her new environment. To be quite honest I was slightly hesitant to place her outside this early as we are only getting approximately 13 or so hours of sunlight daily. Based on my experience last year growing a Gorilla Cookies FF, which was placed outside at a similar time and did extremely well, I went ahead with the transplant, confident that she would be just fine. 4/17- I'm watering around every 2-3 days right now using water straight from my well through a garden hose... super simple! I do not worry about PH as long as the water isn't chlorinated and is good enough for me to drink, it's good enough for my plants and the microbial colony in the soil will adjust the PH to where they need it and at the same time provide the nutrients that the plant requires... again, nice and simple. Well there goes two weeks for this little lady. The next coming weeks should see an increase in size and vigor as long as the weather cooperates... fingers crossed!🤞 Thank you for checking out my diary, your positive comments and support make it all worthwhile! 💚Growers Love!💚😎🙏

💜 💚 😍🥤💜💜 💚 😍🥤💜💜 💚 😍🥤💜💜 💚 😍🥤💜💜 💚 😍🥤💜 Dear growmies, welcome to week 6!! ❤️ OOOOHHH she is growing now 🚀 exciting!! 😬 DAY 36 Watered with 4ml more roots + 3ml humics + growzyme + 5ml fast buds 💧 DAY 37 Watered with 2ml grow + bloom + 4ml more roots + 3ml humics + growzyme + 5ml fast buds + 2ml calmag + LO + epsom 💧 DAY 39 Watered with 4ml more roots + 3ml humics + growzyme + 5ml fast buds + epsom 💧 DAY 41 Watered with 2ml grow + bloom + 3ml more roots + 4ml humics + growzyme + 5ml fast buds + 2ml calmag 💧 DAY 42 Watered with 1ml grow + 2ml bloom + 3ml more roots + 4ml humics + growzyme + 5ml fast buds + 2ml calmag 💧 Thanks @Fast_Buds for your awesome genetics, growing Fastbuds is always a bit like riding a ferris wheel! Woohooo!! 😜 🙏 💚 Thanks to my sponsors @Green_Buzz_Nutrients, their nutes never ever let me down!! Check out my diaries on how well they work! 💚 😘 In case you want to give them a try, you can find a generous discount code in the setup description further down the road ⬇️ You can find more brand hot updates on my IG, where I share real time events from my growroom, don't miss this! 😝 _______________________________________________________________________ Purple Lemonade FF As refreshing as cold lemonade on a hot Summer day. 🌞 • Quench your thirst. Just as good as lemonade on a hot Summer day. • The gentle giant. Up to 550 g/m2 of gorgeous pinkish-purple buds. • Refreshing for the mind and body. The ideal all-day strain with a perfectly balanced effect. • Sweet n’ sour terps. Mouth-puckering lemon flavors that’ll hypnotize your taste buds. • Properly purple. The perfect choice for purple hash and extractions. As refreshing as cold lemonade on a hot Summer day. Arising from a cross between purple and citrus Cali genetics, Purple Lemonade FF (Fast Flowering) offers a complex high made up of perfectly balanced cerebral and body effects that are ideal for daytime use. Expect an extremely enjoyable high that boosts your mood while deeply relaxing your whole body and getting rid of muscle pain. This meticulous cross produces up to 550 g/m2 of some of the most beautiful purple buds, with pinkish and reddish hues that will catch everyone’s attention. The beautiful purple buds are ready for harvest in 7-8 weeks and come hand-in-hand with unbelievably sugary citrus terps that are just as refreshing as a cold lemonade on a hot Summer day. It’s the ideal variety for the sweet-tooth stoner seeking strains that deliver both in quality and quantity of resin. Bud Description 🦔 Purple Lemonade FF grows chunky, spade-shaped buds that boast a whole range of pinkish-purple hues with rich, dark orange pistils shooting out of every direction. This variety stands out for the, oftentimes, lilac trichomes that give them a gorgeous pink tint and make for outstanding purple concentrates. The buds give off a delicious tart lemon aroma that reveals a sweeter, more fruity scent as you break the buds open. Definitely a must for flavor chasers and those looking for pungent terpene profiles. Smoke Reports 💨 Purple Lemonade FF offers an effect that’s just as unique as the flavor. Expect a potent uplifting high that gives you that energy boost you need to get things done while 100% happy and stress-free. The effect gradually transforms into a wave that works its way along the limbs and through the muscles, deeply relaxing your body and putting you in the right mindset to go through a busy day with a huge smile on your face. This is an excellent all-day smoke as it not only increases energy but can also help combat chronic pain, migraine and stress. Plant Appearance 💄 This feminized photoperiod variety develops a thick and strong structure, growing a medium-sized main cola with multiple shorter side branches, typical of hybrid strains. Purple Lemonade FF develops fairly short internodal spacing with gorgeous purple buds growing stacked on top of each other, making it the perfect choice for growers of all levels looking to get lots and lots of top-shelf purple weed, as this variety can produce up to 550 g/m2 in a 7-8 week flower cycle. Grow Tips 🤓 This is a super fast feminized photoperiod version that takes approximately 7-8 weeks to flower with a 5-week vegetation cycle,, this means you can have faster harvests by shortening the veg cycle or have a longer veg cycle for bigger yields. Purple Lemonade FF (Fast Flowering) makes for a great candidate for growers of all levels as it’s a vigorous strain that will thrive with basic maintenance both indoors and outdoors. This is a resin powerhouse so make sure to have your trim bin close by as all the resinous sugar leaves will make for the most mouth- watering hash and extracts. Flavor 😋 Expect a long-lasting citrus zest that taste just like it smells. Purple Lemonade FF reeks of a delicious blend of sweet fruits and tart citrus that’ll make your mouth water. On the inhale, expect sour flavors that taste just like lemon candy with hints of orange and a really subtle earthy background. And on the exhale, the citrus flavors open up, giving place to a more sugary berry fruitiness that leaves your whole mouth tasting like an extremely sweet weed-infused lemonade. https://2fast4buds.com/seeds/purple-lemonade-fast-flowering _______________________________________________________________ Setup: 140x70x200 cm Spiderfarmer tent 2x Monkey 16W fans (not oscillating) 1x Secret Jardin 30W 1x box fan 50W oscillating (on lowest level) LED Full Spectrum 320W AGLEX AGL-320W-MA 5,6 kg foldable, dimmable 864 pieces Samsung LH301H 864umol/s 2,7umol/J full spectrum white + RED 660nm + IR 740nm wavelength range 380-780nm covering 3x4ft Green Buzz Nutrients https://greenbuzzliquids.com/ ❗ Use code GD42025 for generous 25% discount (for orders of minimum 75€) Biobizz Lightmix + coco + wormcastings + perlite Carbon Active Granulate Filter 125/360 cm³/h PrimaKlima exhaust EC 125-400/240 cm³/h

Day 84. Girl is down !!!! Love FB and it's easy to understand why ;)) I started my run at same time as this one,think Mars super light had influence for girls finishing in such nice colours and short time. Thank You very much for both companies, amazing products !!! Huge respect @MarsHydro @FastBuds Happy Growing !!!