🚂 8×8 Adventure – Week 13 🌸 Cash Express – Pheno B 💚 The Bud Rot That Wasn't — She's Back in the Spotlight! Hello everyone, and welcome back to another chapter of the 8×8 Adventure! 🌱💚 And this week... I think we need to start with an apology. 😂💚 Because last week, we had the bud rot discussion. We had trouble. We had concerns. We had one sister that unfortunately lost her main cola. And in the middle of all that... Cash Express Pheno B got caught up in the story. But this week? Let's make something very clear: There is NO bud rot on this girl. None. Niente. Nothing. 😂💚 She's shining. She's growing. She's evolving. She's looking absolutely beautiful. And honestly... I'm very happy to be able to say that. Because when you're running a room with this many plants, the last thing you want is to see a problem spreading from one plant to another. But Cash Express Pheno B? She's doing absolutely fine. She's standing there looking at me like: "See? I told you I'm okay." 😂🚂💚 And she is. She's okay. More than okay, actually. She's looking fucking beautiful. So let's forget the drama for a moment. Let's give this girl the studio treatment she deserves. We took her out. We photographed her properly. We gave her some attention. And now... it's time to let her shine. 💚🌸✨ ──────────────────────── 🙏 First — Let's Correct The Story Before anything else... I'm happy to correct the record. Last week was a very different kind of report, and understandably, the attention was on the bud rot situation we found elsewhere. But Cash Express Pheno B? She's clean. She's healthy-looking. She's developing beautifully. And there are absolutely no signs of bud rot on her. So... sorry, beautiful girl. 😂💚 You got dragged into the drama. But now we're setting the record straight. This girl is doing just fine. And I'm especially happy about that because she's carrying one seriously impressive main cola. 🌸🚂💚 A massive one. And it's hanging in there beautifully. No problems. No drama. Just a big, dense, beautiful flower doing exactly what we want to see at this stage. ──────────────────────── 🚂 Cash Express B Is Still Moving One thing that hasn't changed from the previous reports: This girl is moving. She's still developing. She's still changing. And she's now clearly starting to make those moves toward the final stage of the plant. The overall appearance is changing. The flowers are becoming more mature. The pistils are changing. The green is becoming deeper. The buds are getting denser. And the whole plant is beginning to look like she's entering that part of the journey where the finish line starts becoming visible. Not tomorrow. Not necessarily next week. I'm not putting a date on her. But she's definitely showing us: "I'm getting there." 😂💚 And I'm listening. ──────────────────────── 🌿 Deep Green — Deeper By The Week One of the first things that catches my eye with her right now is the colour. She's beautiful. Deep green. And getting deeper. 💚🌿 There's something really satisfying about seeing this plant in person and then comparing her with the rest of the room. She's got that rich, lush appearance that makes the flowers stand out even more. The green foliage provides this beautiful contrast against the increasingly mature flowers. And then you look closer... and suddenly you're seeing brown hairs everywhere. 🌸? That's another clear sign that this girl is moving forward. She's changing. She's maturing. She's moving away from that fresh-flowering look and toward something much more developed. And I really like what I'm seeing. ──────────────────────── ? Brown Hairs Everywhere Okay... let's talk about those hairs. 😂?🌸 They're everywhere. We're starting to see that beautiful transition across the flowers. The pistils are no longer all fresh white. We're seeing more and more of those darker, mature-looking hairs throughout the plant. And when you combine that with the density of the flowers... the overall picture is becoming very interesting. She's starting to look like a plant that's entering the final part of her journey. Again... I'm not putting a harvest date on her. The plant will tell us. But visually? She's definitely talking. And she's saying: "Things are happening." 😂🚂💚 ──────────────────────── 🌸 Big Buds On A Medium-Sized Plant This is probably one of my favourite things about this phenotype. She's not a giant. She's not one of those plants that completely dominates the room. She's medium-sized. Comfortable. Balanced. And yet... look at the flowers she's carrying. 😂💚🌸 Big. Dense. Beautiful. Substantial. It's a fantastic contrast. Medium-sized plant. Big-to-big flowers. And especially that main cola... wow. She's massive. It's hanging there like: "Don't worry. I've got this." 😂🌸 And I absolutely love seeing that. It reminds us once again that plant size and individual flower size aren't necessarily the same conversation. A plant doesn't have to become a monster to produce impressive flowers. Cash Express Pheno B is giving us a very nice example of that. ──────────────────────── 🌸 The Main Cola Is Hanging In There And I have to give this one its own section. Because after what happened with her sister... I look at this main cola differently now. 😂 I see it. I admire it. I photograph it. And I think: "Please stay with us, big girl." 😂🌸🙏 She's massive. She's dense. She's beautiful. And so far... she's perfectly fine. No signs of bud rot. No strange tissue. No reason for alarm. Just a huge main flower continuing to develop. And honestly? I'm enjoying every photograph of it. Because this is exactly the kind of thing that makes these late stages so satisfying. You watch something start as a tiny flowering site... and eventually you're standing there looking at a giant cola wondering: "How the hell did you become this big?" 😂💚 ──────────────────────── 🔍 No Bud Rot — And That's The Important Part Let's make this crystal clear one more time. 🚨 Cash Express Pheno B: ❌ No visible bud rot ❌ No signs of the problem seen on her sister ❌ No concerning areas that we're seeing ❌ No reason to panic Instead: 💚 Healthy-looking foliage 🌸 Dense flowers ? Increasingly mature pistils ❄️ Beautiful flower development 🌿 Deepening green 🚂 Continued progression And that's exactly what I want to see. Of course, we continue observing. That's what we do with every plant. But observation is not the same thing as panic. Right now... I'm looking at a beautiful plant doing beautifully. And I'm very happy about that. ──────────────────────── 📸 She Went To The Studio! And this week... we did something special. We took her to the studio. 😂📸🎬 Because honestly? She deserved it. After all the drama surrounding the previous week, I wanted to give this girl the attention she deserves. So we took the camera out. We put her in front of the lens. And we let her show off. And... damn. 😂💚 She looks good. Really good. The photographs capture exactly what I'm seeing in the room: A beautiful medium-sized plant. Deep green. Dense flowers. Large colas. Maturing pistils. Strong structure. And one absolutely massive main cola hanging there like she owns the place. 🚂🌸💚 She earned that studio session. ──────────────────────── 📸 Macro Time — Let's Get Close And then, of course... we go closer. Because the full-plant photographs show us the structure. The flower photographs show us the density. But the macro shots? That's where she starts showing off. 😂📸🌸 Suddenly you see the individual structures. The pistils. The resin. The texture. The flower development. The tiny details that you simply can't appreciate from across the room. And that's one of the reasons I love documenting these plants individually. A plant can look beautiful from two metres away... and then completely blow your mind when you put the lens close to the flower. Cash Express Pheno B is definitely giving us those moments. ──────────────────────── 🌱 The 8×8 Adventure — Same Room, Different Personalities For anyone discovering this diary for the first time, welcome to the 8×8 Adventure. The concept remains simple. Twelve plants. Different genetics. Different phenotypes. One shared room. One general environmental strategy. One 12/12 lighting schedule. One irrigation philosophy. One nutritional program. One lighting ecosystem. One grower. And twelve completely different personalities. That's the experiment. And Cash Express Pheno B is giving us another beautiful example. Her sister is writing a very different story. One lost a main cola. This girl? Her main cola is still standing. One has had a difficult chapter. This one is moving toward maturity beautifully. Same general room. Same ecosystem. Different phenotype. Different expression. Different story. That's the 8×8 Adventure. ──────────────────────── 💡 Same Photons — Different Results The lighting environment remains exactly where we've brought it over the last few weeks. Future of Grow Black Series LEDs continue providing the main artificial sun for the room. The two additional Black Series 600W fixtures remain part of the setup. We've already reduced the output to approximately: 🔌 ~59% from the plug while working around: ☀️ ~1,500 PPFD across the upper canopy with intensity naturally changing throughout the canopy according to plant height and position. And Cash Express Pheno B? She's clearly enjoying those photons. She's taking them... and turning them into: 🌿 Leaves 🌸 Flowers ? Mature pistils 💚 Density ✨ Structure Same photons. Different interpretation. That's genetics. And I absolutely love watching it happen. A huge thank you again to Future of Grow for supplying those additional fixtures for this experiment. Having that extra lighting capacity and being able to control how much of it we're actually using has been a fascinating part of this adventure. ──────────────────────── 🌱 Same Feeding — Same Ecosystem And just like the rest of the room... we haven't changed her nutritional program. The room remains stable. The plants are enjoying the consistency. And we're not trying to reinvent anything unnecessarily. Current nutritional program: 🌱 Plagron Pure Zym — 1 ml/L ⚗️ Plagron pH Plus — 0.03 ml/L 🍋 Plagron Lemon Kick — 0.03 ml/L 🌸 Plagron Terra Bloom — 2 ml/L 🌱 Plagron Power Buds — 1 ml/L 🍯 Plagron Sugar Royal — 1 ml/L Current solution strength: ⚡ EC ~2.05 mS/cm Same opportunity. Same room. Same feeding. And then... the plant decides what to do with it. Cash Express Pheno B has decided to build some seriously beautiful flowers. 😂🌸💚 I'm not going to argue with her. ──────────────────────── 💧 Stable Room — Stable Plants This week, the biggest thing we're doing is actually... not doing much. 😂 And I think that's important. The room is stable. The ecosystem is stable. The lighting is stable. The nutrition is stable. The irrigation is stable. And the plants are responding beautifully. So why change things? Exactly. We observe. We monitor. We photograph. We enjoy. And when something actually requires our attention... we deal with it. Otherwise? Let them grow. Let them finish. Let them show us where they're going. Cash Express Pheno B is doing exactly that. ──────────────────────── 🌡️ WEEK 13 — CURRENT ROOM CONDITIONS The room remains under the same conditions across this week's reports: 🌸 Flowering — Week 13 💡 Light schedule — 12/12 💡 Future of Grow Black Series LEDs — upgraded setup 🔌 Approx. lighting output — ~59% from the plug ☀️ Upper-canopy PPFD — ~1,500 🌡️ Day temperature — ~27°C 🌙 Night temperature — ~26°C 💧 Relative humidity — ~61% ⚗️ pH — ~6.04 ⚡ EC — ~2.05 mS/cm 🌡️ Solution temperature — ~25°C 🌱 Substrate temperature — ~25°C 🌬️ CO₂ — ~693 ppm 🌱 Pot size — 15 L 💦 Irrigation — ~1.45 L per plant / 24h Same room. Same environment. Same ecosystem. Same feeding. Same lighting. Different personality. And Cash Express Pheno B is looking absolutely beautiful within it. ──────────────────────── 🌿 She's Starting To Look Like A Final-Stage Plant This is probably the biggest change I'm seeing now. She's beginning to transition. Not dramatically. Not overnight. But visibly. The flowers are getting denser. The pistils are changing. The green is deepening. The overall appearance is becoming more mature. And that's when you start getting that feeling: "Okay... we're getting somewhere." 😂💚 She's not finished. I'm not claiming she is. But she's definitely moving toward that final stage. And I love watching that transition. It's one of the most rewarding parts of a flowering run. The plant slowly changes from: "Look what I'm building!" to: "Look what I've built." And Cash Express Pheno B is somewhere in between those two sentences right now. 🌸🚂💚 ──────────────────────── 🔬 Medium Plant — Big Expression And once again... this girl proves that size doesn't tell the whole story. She's medium-sized. She's not dominating the room. But her flowers? They're big. Her main cola? Massive. Her other flowers? Dense. Her structure? Beautiful. And her personality? Very much her own. This is exactly why I love documenting individual phenotypes. If you only looked at the room as a whole, you might simply say: "Cash Express." But when you follow her individually... you start seeing: Cash Express Pheno B. A medium-sized plant. Deep green. Beautifully structured. Dense flowers. Big colas. Strong main flower. And now... a very clear movement toward maturity. That's a much more interesting story. ──────────────────────── 💚 Her Sister Had Her Chapter — This Girl Has Hers I think this is important too. Because when two phenotypes share the same genetics and the same room, it's very easy to start comparing them. And yes... we absolutely compare them. That's part of the experiment. But comparison doesn't mean one is better. It means they're different. Cash Express Pheno A had her difficult chapter. She lost her main cola. And now we're watching the remaining flowers continue their story. Cash Express Pheno B? She's had a completely different ride so far. Her main cola is still there. It's massive. She's showing no signs of the same issue. She's deep green. She's dense. She's beautiful. And she's moving toward the final stage. Two plants. Same genetics. Same room. Two very different stories. That's phenotype expression right there. ──────────────────────── 🚂 No Drama This Week And honestly? I like this kind of update. 😂💚 No drama. No emergency. No problem to solve. Just: "Look at her." 😂🌸 She's beautiful. She's growing. She's changing. She's getting more mature. She's producing dense flowers. She's getting those brown hairs. She's deep green. She's carrying a massive main cola. And she's doing exactly what she should be doing. Sometimes that's all the report needs to say. Everything is working. The room is stable. The plant is happy. And the grower gets to stand there with a camera and enjoy the view. 😂📸💚 I'll take that. ──────────────────────── 🔭 Looking Ahead So... where are we going from here? Honestly? I don't know. And that's exactly how I like it. 😂💚 I can see that she's entering a later stage. I can see the pistils changing. I can see the flowers getting denser. I can see the plant maturing. But I'm not going to put a date on her. The plant will tell us. And until then... we keep watching. We keep photographing. We keep enjoying the view. We keep the room stable. And we let Cash Express Pheno B decide when she's ready for the next chapter. For now? She's doing beautifully. ──────────────────────── ❤️ FINAL THOUGHTS — THE GIRL WHO DESERVES THE SPOTLIGHT Week 13. And Cash Express Pheno B is looking fucking beautiful. 💚🌸🚂 After last week's drama... what a pleasure it is to write this report. No bud rot. No problems. No emergency. Just a beautiful, healthy-looking plant moving into the final stage of her journey. Deep green. Getting deeper. Brown hairs appearing everywhere. Dense flowers. Big flowers. Beautiful structure. And that main cola... 😂🌸 That thing is massive. And it's hanging in there beautifully. She's a medium-sized plant carrying some seriously impressive flowers. And I absolutely love that. She doesn't need to be the biggest plant in the room. She doesn't need to dominate the canopy. She doesn't need to take over the 8×8. She's simply doing her thing... and doing it very well. We took her to the studio. We gave her the camera. We got close. We photographed those flowers. And she showed us exactly why she deserves her own spotlight. 📸💚✨ This is what the 8×8 Adventure is all about. Same room. Same ecosystem. Same photons. Same nutrition. Same environment. Different genetics. Different phenotypes. Different personalities. And Cash Express Pheno B? She's giving us a beautiful one. So let's enjoy this stage. Let's enjoy those big flowers. Let's enjoy that massive main cola. Let's enjoy the deep green. Let's enjoy the changing pistils. Let's enjoy the density. Let's enjoy the fact that this girl is moving toward her final chapter without giving us any of the drama her sister had. 😂💚 And most importantly... let's give her the spotlight. Because she deserves it. 🚂🌸💚✨ Keep shining, Cash Express Pheno B. Keep doing your thing. Keep building those beautiful flowers. And when you're ready... we'll let you tell us when the story is finished. Until then? The camera is ready. The room is stable. And I'm enjoying the view. ──────────────────────── 🙏 THANK YOU A huge thank you to Zamnesia for the Cash Express genetics and for giving us the opportunity to explore these individual phenotypes throughout the 8×8 Adventure. 🌸🙏 Thank you to Plagron for supporting the nutritional side of the journey and helping us keep the room stable and consistent. A massive thank you to Future of Grow for the Black Series lighting and especially for supplying the two additional Black Series 600W fixtures we're testing in this adventure. 💡🙏 Thank you to Lumiflora for adding another lighting dimension deeper into the canopy. Thank you to TrolMaster for helping us monitor and maintain the environment behind the scenes. And of course... thank you to everyone following these reports on GrowDiaries. Every comment. Every question. Every photograph. Every observation. Every week following these plants. It all becomes part of the story. And Cash Express Pheno B has certainly given us a beautiful one. From her early development... to her unique structure... to those big flowers... to that massive main cola... and now into the beginning of her final stage. She's still here. She's still beautiful. She's still developing. And thankfully... she's got no bud rot. 😂💚 So let's keep watching. Let's keep documenting. Let's keep learning. And let's give this beautiful girl exactly what she deserves: The spotlight. 🚂🌸💚✨ Keep shining, beautiful girl. You've earned it. Growers Love & Happy Growing! 🌱💚🚂

Día 8 (28/10) Subo a DLI 20 Spray solo H2O RO en el top del sustrato Retiro la cúpula de humedad, porque una de las CBD Auto 20:1 tenia el tallo ligeramente doblado por falta de resistencia Sin la cúpula y con el ventilador a la potencia mínima (1/10), van a tener una suave brisa que va a hacer que se fortalezca el tallo! Día 9 (29/10) Las plantas se han estirado mucho y se tambalean un poco Creo que deberían haber tenido un DLI más alto desde el principio! Día 10 (30/10) CBD Auto 20:1 y LSD-25 Auto se encuentran "tumbadas" porque el tallo se ha estirado mucho! Hago un soporte casero con una brocheta de madera + alambre + clip de enrejado para mantener los tallos verticales! Spray solo H2O RO en el top del sustrato Día 11 (31/10) Las plántulas se muestran verticales y felices! Una de las CBD Auto 20:1 está mostrando un desarrollo muy rápido! Spray solo H2O RO en el top del sustrato Día 12 (01/11) Spray solo H2O RO en el top del sustrato Día 13 (02/11) Las plántulas se están estirando mucho! Creo que las falta DLI Subo el DLI a 30 Spray solo H2O RO en el top del sustrato Día 14 (03/11) Introduzco la 1ª BioTab a 5 cm de profundidad, lado derecho 1er Riego! 750 ml de H2O RO + ORGATREX 5 ml/L + BACTREX 1 g/L 💦Nutrients by Bio Tabs - www.biotabs.nl/en/ 🌱Substrate PRO-MIX HP BACILLUS + MYCORRHIZAE - www.pthorticulture.com/en-us/products/pro-mix-hp-biofungicide-plus-mycorrhizae "GDBT420" 15% DISCOUNT code for the BIOTABS Webshop https://biotabs.nl/en/shop/

Flush time, just water and some beneficials for the end. What a grow, total surprise this strain, really nice outcome and some solid colas!

gave them a potent compost tea Starting 4th week of flower

Hello hello, We are at the end of the 6th week today, and the plants are growing so much. The main branches became very tall, so I decided to use a net to help me control them. I'm enjoying the result so far :)

It's a lot of stretching going on in here...

Weekly update on these lovely ladies. This week has been fun to watch the flowers form and swell. They definitely are starting to smell, as soon as you open the tent it hits you like a ton of bricks. I'll be doing my final dedoliation this week taking off some of the bigger fan leafs allowing more light to the lower flower sites. All in all Happy Growing

Fantastic variety I was very impressed with the trunger of the pistils that has produced this wonderful variety, from photos you can notice a violet traits, while the other no, has a very intense aroma has a aftertaste of chocolate and coffee notes, predominantly savialy, for the day, has a good structure with interior away from each other.

Hallo zusammen 🤙 Sie wächst sehr schön und macht keine Umstände.

Vamos familia, actualizamos la cuarta semana de vida de estas Papayton de Fastbuds. Tuve problemas con la temperatura que estuvo alta 28/26 grados y humedad dentro de los rangos correctos, la única queja es la temperatura, 16 horas luz, 8 oscuridad, estiraron un poco, pero van lentas por el momento, que cojan fuerza. El trasplante a sido realizado a la maceta definitiva, 7L con sustrato Top crop. Hasta aquí todo, Buenos humos 💨💨💨

01/01/2024 - Monday: Girls' ages: #1 - 35 days Today nothing was done, everything is going well! 01/02/2024 - Tuesday: Today nothing was done, everything is going well! 01/03/2024 - Wednesday: Watered #1 with 1.5 liters. I noticed that the main branch was practically being "strangled" by the tie, so I redid it to make it loose. I did this for all ties that seemed too tight. 01/04/2024 - Thursday: Today nothing was done. 01/05/2024 - Friday: 1.5 liters of water for #1. 01/06/2024 - Saturday: Today nothing was done. 01/07/2024 - Sunday: Watered #1 with 3 liters of water and 15g of Tropikali Sauce (7.5g Vega and 7.5g Flora). -------------------------------------------------- 01/15/2024 - Monday: Girls' ages: #3 - 35 days #4 - 35 days #5 - 35 days Watered #4 with 3 liters of water. 01/16/2024 - Tuesday: Watered #3 with 1.5 liters, the recommended flowering dose of Flowermind, and 1.5ml of Biobizz Fish Mix. 01/17/2024 - Wednesday: Today nothing was done. 01/18/2024 - Thursday: Watered #4 with 3 liters of water and 3ml of Biobizz Fish Mix. Watered #5 with 500ml of water, the recommended dose of Flowermind, and 0.5ml of Biobizz Fish Mix. 01/19/2024 - Friday: Watered #3 with 1 liter of water, the recommended dose of Flowermind, and 1ml of Biobizz Fish Mix. 01/20/2024 - Saturday: Today nothing was done. 01/21/2024 - Sunday: Today nothing was done.

Total yield was 105 grams per plant

Es ist soweit! Am Freitag habe ich die fünf Easy Buds nach knapp 11 1/2 Wochen abgeschnitten und geerntet. Leider musste ich feststellen, dass eine Pflanze ziemlich stark befallen war. Ich vermute eine Milbenart oder möglicherweise Fliegeneier. Unterhalb der Blätter waren etliche dunkelgelbe und dunkelbraune Eier, die man auf den ersten Blick kaum erkennen konnte. Bei genauerem Hinsehen sieht man jedoch, dass sich der Befall auf die ganze Pflanze ausgeweitet hatte. Glücklicherweise blieben die vier anderen Pflanzen verschont. Aus diesem Grund trockne ich die Pflanzen auch getrennt voneinander. Die befallene Pflanze wollte ich nicht direkt wegwerfen, sondern erstmal trocknen lassen. Im Nachhinein werde ich schauen, wie ich mögliche Schadensbegrenzung betreiben kann. Die vier gesunden Pflanzen werden in einem geschlossenen Zelt in einem Trocknungsbeutel getrocknet. Die befallene Pflanze habe ich in dem Folienzelt aufgehängt und mit einer Plane abgedeckt. Nach wenigen Tagen der Trocknung sieht soweit eigentlich alles gut aus. Die Eier scheinen nicht mehr zu schlüpfen, sondern fallen von der Blüte ab oder verschrumpeln zu Kompost. Ich hoffe, dass es dabei bleibt. Der Geruch hat sich nach dem Abschneiden deutlich verändert. Schon nach der kurzen Trocknungszeit kann ich einen intensiveren Geruch feststellen, der sich noch nicht so richtig beschreiben lässt. Die Blüten waren stark mit den sogenannten "Sugar Leaves" verwachsen, weshalb ich sie grob getrimmt habe, um sie zum Trocknen aufzuhängen. Nachdem die Blüten vollständig getrocknet sind, werde ich die Buds noch einmal einzeln trimmen und durch meine Trimm-Maschine von Vevor jagen. Der Ernteprozess hat zu zweit circa eine Stunde gedauert. Die Pflanzen waren zum Zeitpunkt der Ernte noch sehr gesund und kräftig. Die Verwurzelung war trotz des geschlossenen Topfes sehr gut. Die schönste Bud hat definitiv die zentrale Pflanze, Greta, ergeben. Nass hätte ich den Bud auf mindestens 12 g geschätzt. Ein Gesamtgewicht des nassen Pflanzenmaterials habe ich nicht ermittelt. Sobald alles trocken und fertig beschnitten ist, werde ich das Tagebuch um den trockenen Betrag ergänzen. Stand jetzt würde ich schätzen, dass der Ertrag aller Pflanzen bei circa 40-50 g liegt, was mich für meinen ersten Grow ziemlich zufrieden stellt, besonders in Anbetracht dieser wirklich sehr simplen Strain. Mehr Infos und Fotos folgen in Kürze, wenn das Curing beginnt. Bis bald! :)

Transplanted the Blueberry into her final pot, didn't show any signs of transplant shock even right after transplanting. Still only feeding 200 ppm worth of CalMag RO water once a day. Both seem to be doing great so far.

week four flower everything looks fine so far :D I water them with 1.5l every 48h the light I use was set to 100% and it hangs 80cm away from the tops

Flipped May 2nd *Selective defoliation (Open lower bud sites) *PH 5.5 😶 *Hydrogen Peroxide Foliar Spray *All set for now, hope all goes well from here!! Peace!🙌

Good growth this week but I think she is still in Veg mode.... I hope I have not made a big mistake not FIMing her or any of the others in the tent. She is easily the tallest of all four.

The baby's have started there stretch phase and been started on big bud coco , I've also been using great white microrhizo and man I love it I think that has earned its place in my nute arsenal ! Double grape doing great nice branchy structure from training and topping with loads of heads Creme de la Chem Didn't like topping as much but has recovered well one is really tall going to be a big girl ! 3bears og First time running it and I love it already really rapid and strong growth multiple colas loved the topping ! I've just poped another 10 so new diary time !