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Buongiorno amici! Cosa ne dite, ci siamo? È arrivato il momento di raccogliere? 😍💚🍒🤪 ... O meglio aspettare qualche foglia grande che diventa gialla?
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Week 27 - 4 weeks into the new flower cycle and bud development is a lot more advanced, much earlier post-transition too. It’d be great if these finished out early as we’ve got some extra cuts on the white widow that may need a home in a few weeks. Couldn’t resist - it’s such a vigorous plant that we’re gonna keep it for the next pollen chuck if the schedule aligns. Chopped out a massive amount of larf from the undercarriage and we were ruthless here due to super high humidity and ideal conditions for botrytis. Still hoping on some useable seed and/or bud but this whole thing has been touch and go since the partial reveg. Alls good for now. Thanks for take’n a look. As for the outdoor… meh. Like everyone around here we’ve fallen victim to far too much sustained rain recently and the WPM on the strawberry has really set in. The harvest window has cracked open slightly with about 2 weeks to peak. Still waiting on chop day though so it’s 50/50 if there’ll be anything usable on this plant. In a last ditch effort to get er to the end we’re gonna strip most of her fan leaves now. That’ll alleviate the WPM somewhat (in combo with a daily peroxide spray). We’ll likely chop early too. The bud wash should greatly assist with and offset any lingering small amounts but she’s gotta get there first and this strain is not known for mold resistance. Time will tell. The Lost Coast OG - an absolute champ. Lush and green, came through the rains just fine and should be a great smoke when it’s all said and done. Not long for either now - should be better part of 2 weeks for the strawberry and then whenever the og says fini👍. Background/Repetitive Nonsense These plants will be the two mothers this growing season that will be utilized for stage 2 of the pollen chucking project. We’ll be taking clones and stressing the genetics for some fem. pollen using colloidal silver. Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel with landrace genetics, we’re effectively skipping initial hybrid crossing and stabilization, going straight to the polyhybrid mix. I call it the shotgun approach to selective, unvetted and amateur breeding on a micro scale😉. These 2 parent strains will form the basis for 8-10 different F1 polyhybrid combinations and a further S1 back cross of each of the mothers. Not only should we be able to preserve the genetics for both mothers in feminized form but we’ll also be running an entire family of new hybrids after seeding out clones from each on the initial lineup of this summers photoperiods. Method is pretty simple here; once we’ve got our pollen off the two mothers we’ll be clipp’n clones on 4 select strains that have proven results from various respected breeders. We’ll be using those for pollination purposes in what is expected to be a 10 plant recirculating Dutch bucket hydro system. ***Update*** The feminization process didn’t take at all with the strawberry or the Skywalker so it’ll be reg. Seed crosses with only Skywalker and some other 707 Headband that we have in the vault. ********* Strain details: Parent strains for self pollination - Skywalker Kush by Reserva Privada Classic kush effects and earthy aroma. The strong kush element of this cultivar will compliment any cross. - Spliffs Strawberry by Spliff Seeds Incredible mix of flavourful terpenes and hard hitting high THC. She’s got some Herer as well as some Diesel in ‘er so an obvious choice for any cross as well. ***UPDATE*** The strawberry had to come out of this breeding run to wait for a better mother that hasn’t been attacked by aphids. It’s been a tough battle this season and we’ve had to make a couple of heartbreaking sacrifices already. Parent Strains for cross pollination ***UPDATE*** We added another 2 strains to the mix just in case we need to spot swap for some more variety. - Ghost Train by AMS Seeds A cross of Alien OG x Ghost Train Haze. Never tried the strain but I’ve heard only good things. This one might be worth mixing with the Strawberry so we’ll see how it goes. ***UPDATE*** Sadly - the ghost train turned out to be an auto so cloning her out as part of the breeding project is a no-go. Really disappointed about this but at least we still have a ready backup strain on the lost coast og to take her place. - Boogie Nights by AMS Seeds A cross of Kalijah, aka afghani/skunk/diesel/blue heaven X Juanita, aka NYC Diesel/Reina Madre). No idea here so naturally I’m interested😉. ************** - Lost Coast OG by Emerald Triangle Pakistani Kush x Lemon Thai x Chemdawg #4. Essentially a classic, west coast combo of landrace kush genetics that Cali is famous for, mixed with hard hitting Chemdawg #4. ***UPDATE*** The Lost Coast is a winner of a plant. Still outdoors and in veg. Looks like it’s recovered from the aphid attack. Might consider trying to take another cut of this and just rooting it in a pot for pollination. At this point, what the hell and if we could salvage anything it would be a positive. *****update: got lazy and taking a cut never happened… so dumb - this plant is amazingly resilient and thicka than a snicka!****** - Spliffs Blueberry by Spliff Seeds (Chocolate Thai x Afghani #1 x Highland Oaxaca) x Northern Lighhts Special. Only 1 bean of this left and the whole purpose is to blend the best of Spliffs Berry strains as a tribute. Awesome breeder and they’ve been very kind to us over the years. - Northern Light by Royal Queen Seeds NL means nuff said. A combo of 11 unknown strains believed to originate from the west coast of North America. This cultivar is a great take on these classic genetics and a perfect compliment to just about any cross. A biased fave of ours.👍 - White Widow by Seedsman Brazilian Sativa x South Indian Indica. This classic strain has been unluckily elusive for us the last couple years. We know the quality of seedsmans version of this cultivar having grown it in the past. Sadly, a very strong performer that never made it to harvest due to an uncontrollable aphid infestation. And we’re only at step 1.... still gonna need an assist with pheno hunting all of the crosses so if anyone’s interested in running the testers (when we finally get to that point) just let me know👍😎. *****Update - plagues by issue after issue and having this project go an extra 6 weeks at least has been frustrating as fuck. Still on the way to chop as I write and really unlikely we’ll be pulling seed off this run. Big time bummer but it is what it is. Lessons learned, move on👍.**** Gonna be a Dope ass summer project and can’t wait to see it in full swing🤟. Thanks for stopp’n in y’all👊
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GTH SEED #1 in training, just super cropped on one side to even conopy. The first site im recording will be a clone,it is on back side of plant and will not produce. #2,#3,#4 pics,#2 is stripped of leaves at about 12 inches. 06/16/18 #4 is showing pre-flowers,#2,#3, no sign yet. #1 check in the morning. 06/19/2018 Still no pre -flowers on #1,#2,#3, #4 however is female so I Fimmed her to encourage side shoots to grow biggest of wider canopy. #1 reacting well to supercropping 20 tops as of today. Praying she is female🙏🙏. She is a stretchy girl in flower 2 to 3 x her vegged height so trying to be low profile as possible.👍
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It's a lot of stretching going on in here...
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Day 82. First of two is down. Day 88. Second down. Both will be decent by weight and structure, but smell and taste .... maybe after cure ? ;))) Day 92. First went to jars. Will be hard to keep fingers away ... ;))) Day 98. Both in jars ! 170 g of my very likeable smoke ;) Will update later Happy Growing !!!
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This grow with the TSW2000, FC4800 and 8x8 Grow Tent has come to an end🤘🤘. I'm so happy with the results mars hydro has done👍. Best lights you can get in my opinion and TONS of other people agree with me on this too👍. I always say mars hydro gets em frosty and their lights DID get em nice and frosty and the buds are so tasty and smell awesome🤘. Not a huge haul per plant but I'm still very happy with it because the quality is amazing. I will never want to use anything but MARS HYDRO. Extremely satisfied with the entire grow with mars. The weed quality is very good and controlling the heat was simple because they don't get that hot. The lights were very easy to setup and so was the tent. I STONGLY recommend any products from Mars Hydro. You will not be disappointed 👍 Thanks for following my grow and good luck to all my friends and remember to have fun with your grows🤘🤘 rock n roll a joint everyone🤘🥁🎸 FOR EVERYTHING MARS HYDRO VISIT: www.mars-hydro.com PROMO CODE: rocknroll VISIT THE ALIEXPRESS STORE: @marshydro_aliexpress2 Instagram: @marshydropenny https://youtube.com/channel/UChU5ZWwNi-DvnO3oWVU3ceA Thanks for taking the time to read and check out my shit🤜🤛 GET THE MAX FROM MARS👍: Welcome one of  the newest members of the Mars Hydro family🤜🤛🤘. The Mars Hydro FC 4800 480W LED Grow Light can accommodate up to a 4' x 4' area for flowering. It has OVER 2000 LED chips consisting of the best selling Samsung LM301B diodes which has a Luminous Efficacy of: 220 lm/W 0.2 W, 3 V mid power, Osram 660nm Diodes, Infrared light and UV LIGHT👍. It boasts the incredible efficiency of 2.8 µmol/J, maximum 2.5gram yield per watt with 30% higher Average PPFD. This High-intensity spectrum is beneficial for plants at all stages - from veg to bloom, and creates Big dense Buds👍. achieve 50% higher yields & quality compared with the old lights! Only consumes 480W for 4x4ft personal grows, and 3x3ft for commerical grow. It comes with a dimmer and daisy chain function with a  maximum of up to 15 lights, the master light controls the rest👍. Wide 6-bar design offers even & wide canopy coverage and can maximizes your grow space. slim 180° FOLDABLE DESIGN... YES I SAID FOLDABLE🤘🤣 , making it compact and easy to install, it's IP65 WATERPROOF and will give you no worries while growing in a humid environment and makes it a flexible high performance commercial grow light for enormous  SUPER FROSTY yields.😛😛😛. MARS GETS EM FROSTY BOYS👍 AWESOME HEAT DISSIPATION: The Low energy consumption FC4800 growing light has 6 passive-cooled bars and an aluminum heat-sink a removable driver  you can upgrade later or have it outside your tent. with zero noise  you can save up to 50% in your electricity bill compared to HID's or HPS lights! It also has a removable driver so you can upgrade it in the future or have it outside your grow space for better heat control in your growroom👍 UPGRADED FULL SPECTRUM: Yield Max Spectrum with enhanced red (Top-Bin Samsung 3000k-5000knm, Osram 660nm Deep Red), speed up blooming & fruiting, perfectly suited for full-cycle growing. The FC4800 LED grow lamp was born for Big Buds, perfect for commercial, grow tent, grow room, hydroponics, and all soil grows.👍 THE BEST SAMSUNG DIODES: THE FC4800 has Top Bin genuine Samsung Osram Diodes, combined with remarkable 2.8 µmol/J Efficacy, 30% higher Average PPFD, 50% less energy consumption, to maximize your yields. They give you a TRUSTED 3 years warranty 100% Satisfactory guaranteed!!! The MARS HYDRO 8x8 Grow Tent interior is made of a unique diamond design mylar which is highly reflective. (Other companies mylar and reflective rate is as low as 50%, and it won't provide efficient light. They use thick 1680D oxford canvas, and being double stitched, it is tear proof and perfect for locking in the light. Their grow tent keeps 100% of the light inside the tent and helps your plants absorb more light. EXTRA-THICK material means No light leaks or rips at all.👍 Strong Stable metal corner adapters and poles are the trustful supporters of the tent. It's very sturdy, neither rusting or paint flaking off. quick and easy tool-free setup. They use heavy-duty metal zippers, with double layer black lining, by far the best on the market which creates a light-proof seal. The Easy observation windows are made by double layers of cloth. Observe the growing conditions of your plants without opening the tent and avoid disturbing your plants. The observation windows also serves to dissipate heat and ventilate the air. The tent includes 2 removable waterproof floor trays to hold soil and water. The removable tray can be taken out to wash easily. They guarantee the grow tents are easy to install even if you've never done something like this before. Clear Instructions and no tools needed! They also offer 30-day unconditional refunds for quality problems. Just contact their friendly 24 hours customer service 👍
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Hello Diary, White Widow has reached the end of the 5th week of flowering, a total of 8 weeks since the start of the vegetation. As you can see from the photos, harvest is coming soon. I would say one more week and she will be ready. What's interesting is that this White Widow phenotype is a bit of a purple one. The flowers are starting to take on purple tones. The flowers are not as big compared to her roommates but they are rock hard and sticky under your fingers. This week I started checking the appearance of the trichomes and most of them are still transparent. All in all White Widow has pleasantly surprised me and brought a smile to my face when I look at her. The smell is very intense at this stage, the whole room smells like plants when I open the grow box. Watering is still every two or three days. This week I stopped adding nutrients, I just lowered the p.H. to 6.0 and water the plants with clean water. Here's what the previous week looked like. 13/09/2024 - Day 51. Watering. I prepared 9 liters of water, lowered the pH to 6.0 and used that amount to water all three plants on the farm. 16/09/2024 - Day 54. Watering. I repeated the same procedure as three days earlier. 18/09/2024 - Day 56. It's the end of the 8th week, taking pictures of the plants. That's all from me for this week, see you soon.
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She is super triched out smells sweet and cakey she is gna be a bitch to trim she has super sticky spikey leaves she grew like a mutant 3 leaves and shit I loved her structure in veg but flower it took me awhile to like it but she swol up on me each branch is a nice cola
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What up fam, weekly update on these absolute gorgeous girls. Nothing happing much this week besides the flower sites maturing more day by day. Over all its been like cruise control, still feeling 16oz daily. Happy Growing.
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Day 49: Week 7 behind 8s mow and onto the final stretch now. These ladies have been great performers for me in the grow I wish I had more of them to do !!!... Fft#9 is bursting with fresh pistils again now and should swell like a trooper this week. Rhe bids are rock solid under the new pistils and her smellnis so sweet like picked fruit now.Their size is more than I expected but had hoped they would attain before the final swell and ripening. She has a good few hidden gems tucked away below decks too which will be fun to find on harvest and trim. Her biggest main is doing excellent and a great guide for her siblings to grow too hopefully. FFT#10 Is looking mean and nasty in a good way. Her darkness warns of impending loss of clarity and vision if messed with in my opinion !!!. lol She looks so different to the other ladies and her bud structure is below the main tops is a little less compacted. She is covered in trichs and her can sweetness is blatent at the slightest touch. She wanted to grow her way throughout the grow and even when tied and bent , she found a way to upset the symmetrical desire I had in mind Cant beat an independent lady who knows best !. She is so tacky when handled too. I thought she was so close to finish but she is still putting a few new pistils out over her mains so she may go another 2 weeks too. I am determined to hit the sweet spots with these two ladies and am also applying a little drought stress for the next 7 days This is to test the theory out a little and see if we can get them as pitent as possible too. fingers crossed Growmies. be safe and well. thanks for stopping by. UPDATE##### Day 54 and the FFT#10 is done she finished beautifully and will be trimmed for a low slow dry amd harvest.
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Hello everyone here is another week and at first glance everything seems to be going well ... rather happy with the result but remains to see more ... here I started rinsing on the bottom plants and the others next week ... now place to photos ...
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End of the first few days of the transition. They all got a significant defoliation to open up space in the canopy for branching and the plants responded incredibly well to it. Plants 1&2 started to show immediate deficiency signs after defoliation and I upped the nute ratios by about 50%/liter with the Berkana. Voracious feeder and growers these are for sure. That said, their growth rate is phenomenal and the side branching is especially impressive and responsive to training. Veg. Maturity on all of em for the last week so it’s a fast growing strain all around👌. Well throw down the scrog net in a couple of days after we hack out the lower portions of each plant and take clones for all of em but the runt (#8). The clones will be flowered fast in the aeroponic cloner and pollinated for F3 generation seed. Bud characteristics on this run will then determine which clones get tested first based on best characteristics of the lot. So far this run has been incredibly impressive but only the bud quality will tell the true tale. Here’s hoping for continued good progress. ***Grow notes: stretching at about 1/2” per day over the last 3 days of transition. Side branching reaching enough maturity to start taking cuts. Minor deficiency signs post-defol. So increasing nute ratios on a slightly accelerated basis continues to be the norm.
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Esta semana añadimos el otro led ts 1000 para seguir regulando (añadiendo más potencia lumínica) Agregamos paja,para una mejor retención de la humedad y no se seque primero la parte superficial de la tierra (uno de nuestros mayores errores al querer calcular si todo el cepellon está seco o sigue teniendo algo de humedad,por consecuencia,al volver a regar ,sigue con ese pequeño exceso de humedad) ,con el objetivo de conseguir una mejor vida en nuestro suelo ,con todos los nutrientes orgánicos y la clave,enzynabis,crearemos una buena simbiosis,y lo más importante,natural.
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My biggest harvest yet from a single plant! Closing in on 1 pound per plant which is very exciting. I could have vegged this plant longer but it still takes forever to mature. It never produces amber trichomes in my hands and just stops growing even though it's still consuming nutrients. This is the nicest LST/topping job that I have done yet and every branch produced a massive cola. I lost one cola to white mold but I have busted up the rest and inspected everything so I think it was an isolated incident. It smells amazing and it's gonna cure in the jars now! Thanks for following along on my 3rd White Widow run. I am going to be focusing on autoflowers
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Привет привет ;) а вот и долгожданый репорт от Rasta Grow . Как по мне ,так просто супер. новый метод оправдан. во время перевода в цветение- отрезал корни до половины . На видео видно как они сейчас выглядят. Намного больше появилось места в ведре для кислорода, корни стали дышать , осталось подготовить ведро ниже для экономии раствора . Что касается Og Kush i Gorilla Bearth Humboldts Seed чувствуют себя хорошо ;) жду вопросы в комментариях, с удовольствием отвечу .
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Crystal meth esta asi... Creo que puede ser pulgon, pero a las demás plantas estan bien, esta en coco en 15L y riego 500ml cada 48h aprox, puede que se me hayan podrido las raizes por poca/mucha humedad? El indoor suele estar por 30°c y 50/60 %rh , ahora esta en 24° Finalmente ha muerto Crystal meth... Nose si volvere a probarla, desde pequeña dio problemas y era demasiado espigada para mis gustos y recursos.. Una de las 4 Blackberrys de fastbuds se ve enorme y esta empezamdo a engordar creo, hojas púrpuras, creo que será la mas productora, la tengo em un armario aparte ella sola con olantas mas bajas con una marshydro ts600 que le penetra perfectamente en todas las ramas
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This week went real well! All 5 of the Twenty20 Ogreberry Autos and the 1 Fastbuds Bruce Banner have successfully germinated and sprouted up from the soil!! This upcoming week we will start giving these girls a heavy feeding of nutrients PH d at 6.5 an see how they react , most likely will love it!! Temperature an humidity has been on point, through out the day we reach 70-75 degrees an a nice humidity of 65%which is always nice ! Hope you all enjoy an keep them eyes peeled for next week !! Peace, love, an positive vibes to all you Growmies out there! If any questions please feel free to ask , more then happy to help! Cheers everybody to another great grow!!!
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This two were part of another diary and got moved out due to space reasons at VW8 and moved back indoors at VW20 https://growdiaries.com/diaries/218151-auto-god-s-glue-grow-journal-by-yan402 13.09.25 VW21 Both are looking good and are developing tighter nodes than when they were outside, I'm going to have to keep cutting them back every once and a while I also applied nematodes against thrips and fungus gnats. 20.09.25 VW22 some spots and some yellow leafs, I think it's a root problem, probably root bound, but both seem healthy and are getting thicker so maybe just top up with Coco coir and give a slight different nutrient schedule less Tri Part Bloom could do the trick MAYBE lol. 27.09.25 VW23 Topped up the pots with extra coco coir and trimmed the side roots a bit, both plants were root bound 📹 03.10.25 VW23 did a HST/LST session 📹 12.10.25 VW25 Done a major HST session to try and keep them in line with the Sunset Sherbet GF I have going in the same tent, rest in the video 📹 17.10.25 VW25 ffj/fpj/fish 30 → 60 ml 19.10.25 VW26 it just became a one plant diary, keeping #5, #6 gets it's own diary for testing nutrients. 20.10.25 VW26(?) Feed tweak: added 3 g Calcium Nitrate/ 30 L (≈ 15 ppm N + 10 ppm Ca) 24.10.25 VW26 did a defoliation and trimming session 📹 25.10.25 VW26 I'll be repoting tomorrow, 26.10.25 VW27 rest in the video📹 27.10.25 VW27 Epsom Salt 0 → 2.5, Calcium Nitrate 3 → 9 g 01.11.25 VW28 CalMag 60 → 30ml, TriPartBloom 20 → 30ml, Magnesium 2.5 → 3.5g 04.11.25 VW28 no more yellowing between the veins and no new spots, the changes to the schedule worked, rest in the video 📸 09.11.25 VW29 Did what I'm hoping is a last cleanup 🎥 12.11.25 VW13 Did another cleanup in the tent 🎥, also switched to the FERMAKOR PK Micro schedule, (10.11.25) added Phosphoric acid as a pH down in preparation for flowering 14.11.25 FW1 FERMAKOR PK Micros 40 → 50 ml 22.11.25 FW2 Calcium Nitrate 40 g → 35 g 🌱💦🌱💦🌱💦🌱💦🌱💦🌱 Day to day tasks & actions 🌿 🌱💦🌱💦🌱💦🌱💦🌱💦🌱 22.11.25 FW1 – Fed 5l of #1 → 2l runoff 23.11.25 FW2 – Fed 5l of #1 → 2l runoff (*RUNOFF reused for indoor house plants) 🍶💧🍶💧🍶💧🍶💧🍶 💧 Nutrients in 30 L #1 Veg — FERMAKOR 🍶💧🍶💧🍶💧🍶💧🍶 💧 Calcium Nitrate (Calcinit / Nitcal): 45 g → 40 g → 35 g = 1.33 g/L → 207 ppm N + 253 ppm Ca = 1.17 g/L → 183 ppm N + 224 ppm Ca (current) 💧 PK Concentrate (FERMAKOR Base): 30 ml → 40 ml → 50 ml = 1.00 → 1.33 → 1.66 ml/L → balanced 1:1 P:K + light micros (from extract) 💧 Home-made FFJ/FPJ (Fish + Veg): 30 ml = 1.00 ml/L Epsom Salt (MgSO₄·7H₂O): 8 g = 0.27 g/L → 26 ppm Mg + 35 ppm S 💧 Fetrilon Combi 1 (Micros): 0.5 g = 0.017 g/L → Fe 0.7 ppm • Mn 0.7 ppm • Zn 0.3 ppm • Cu 0.3 ppm • B 0.1 ppm • Mo 0.02 ppm Phosphoric Acid (pH down) + Citric Acid (chelation): → First set pH with phosphoric acid → Add a little citric only if extra chelation is needed 💧 Target pH: 5.8 – 6.0 (drop test yellow-green) 📦 TOTAL Inputs: 60 ml → 70 ml → 80 ml / 48.5 g per 30 L = 2.00 → 2.33 → 2.66 ml/L + 1.62 g/L (current) ⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️ ✂️ Tools & equipment ✂️ ⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️ ✂️ 2× MarsHydro SP3000 ⚙️ MarsHydro 150mm ACF Ventilator ✂️ Trotec dehumidifier (big unit) ⚙️ Mini no-name dehumidifier ✂️ Kebab skewers (LST – stainless) ⚙️ Wire + roast skewers (LST assist) ✂️ Scissors (HST) ⚙️ Vacuum (for spills & cleanup) ✂️⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️✂️⚙️ 🍒🍭🍬🌈🍒🍭🍬🌈🍒🍭🍬🌈🍒 🦄Fantasy Feast ( Seeds)🦄 🌈🍒🍭🍬🌈🍒🍭🍬🌈🍒🍭🍬🌈🍒 Species: Hybrid (Regular) Genetics: The mother is Unicorn Whip by Dirty Bird Genetics. The father is Charcuterie by Cannarado Genetics. Effect: Unknown Mixed effect body and head high Flavor: Some phenos are Skunky gassy fruity, some are fruity sour citrus with a chemical touch and a touch of skunk Flowering: Estimated 8–10 weeks Resistance: Strong — Testing phase done YouTube Link: https://youtube.com/-m8h?si=A7x4Zlr2kj-_ga31
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June 9th - nutrient delivery on the 11th will also see a fence with 6” square holes, be wrapped around the 15 gallon pots for branch support. The 3 pots can then be anchored to the ground for Stability. - dressing the substrate surface (x 3) with a Mulch featuring Worm Castings. Then watering 14th - visited and fed, dinner posted above. 2nd feed in the feed-feed-water cycle. - plant continues to grow and continues to be beat-up by the high winds in that agricultural corridor. Shot a short video of how tough the winds have been. Weed is bloody tough. Then again its a weed - ea plant fed 1.5 gal ahead of this coming hot humid week ! 15th - last day of the week
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Nice vigorous growth, showing a little deficiency. That's down to my water so I've added a little Canna Calmag agent. Soon be green again. Her growth is slightly taller and thinner than the RF3 version I'm growing alongside it. Little side growth that has stayed tight in.