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Despite no A/C in the spot temporarily, things are going perfectly fine, no complaints! Thank goodness I’m just vegging. Temps have been around 87 ish, but the plants seem to love it.
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Hi everyone, the plants are stretching well. The fastberries are starting to take on shades of purple. The grapefruit is already producing trichomes, as is Rhino Ryder. In any case, for the moment, everything is going well. Thanks to those who follow me and read my comments.
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11/24 and week nine Will be feeding Monday as well as a foliar of weak cal-mag Defoliating as well Tuesday Maggie's bud are beginning to cone as Layla and so that is hopeful. 11/27 Do not see much bud building on Brandy. Not a deficiency issue that I can see just the effect of the stunting. Considering harvesting Brandy cutting my losses and freeing light space for the others which we hope will pay off. Get some sleep see how it looks in the morning. 11/27 PM Brandy and the Runtz will be harvested this week as they are just ready to go and I want some of both :) Recharge and bio-bloom for Layla and Maggie just some water and a bit of recharge for Brandy. Just to see what happens PH 6.5 New pics and vid 11/29 new pics Going to let Brandy continue to ripen the Recharge seems to have triggered new hair growth 11/30 Changed the bulb on the Lights to a different maker (vivosun) and man what a difference. That old light was costing us! From now on that bulb is changed every six months.
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13 jours de 12/12 OK il y a du changement ! Dans la partie du scrog vertical le stretch n’a pas été assez fort J'ai donc abandonné la culture verticale pour cette fois J'ai donc fusionné le bas de la tente pour avoir un espace de 90x60x90 Le ts1000 a été retiré pour laisser la place aux barres du FC-E 4800 Et bien sur gros LST pour gagner en surface et gagner 20 à 30cm de hauteur Vu qu’il y a 16 plantes mais que sur growdiaries on ne peut mettre que 8 variétés j'ai divisé en 2 diaries pour le bas de la tente 1️⃣ 🏠 90x60x90 ☀️ FC-E 4800 => puissance a 20% 🍁 1x Black Bomb / Philosopher Seed 2x Amnesia Lemon / PEV Seeds 1x Blueberry / PEV Seeds 1x Blueberry / 00 Seeds 1x Wappa / Paradise Seed 1x Dark Phoenix / Green House Seed 1x Quick Sherbet / Exotic Seeds 1x Mango Cream / Exotic Seeds 1x Banana Frosting / Sensi Seed 1x Hindu Kush / Sensi Seed 4x Fast Mix / Sweet Seed 📎 https://growdiaries.com/diaries/122084-grow-journal-by-soosan 📎https://growdiaries.com/diaries/124052-grow-journal-by-soosan 2️⃣ 🏠 30x60x50 ☀️TS1000 => puissance a 50% 🍁 4x Quick Sherbet - Exotic Seed 📎 https://growdiaries.com/diaries/122080-grow-journal-by-soosan
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2024-08-27 "BE a Breeder", is one of Doctor´s Choices Motto. So iam going to be- so today i let 3 Doctor´choice Regular Seeds Seeds germinate- A backcross from Chronic Ryder_ then they went under a kitchensponge, and after that they get planted. BREEDER INFO LEGEND We’re so proud of our latest drop - Chronic Ryder regular - as it results from a hardworking breeding process. We used an original Chronic male plant from Serious Seeds and backcrossed it with our Chronic Ryder from Sasha The Joint Doctor’s private collection to receive the Chronic Fast F1 BX Regular. By crossing 2 Chronic Ryder F3 lines, L1 and L2 from the same parents, we have created a new hybrid line. Well, it seems like it should be an F4 hybrid, but it's incorrect to name so. This process is called interline breeding, which means the cross of 2 lines. This cross allowed us, over several generations, to get a fully automatic Chronic Ryder that predominates its parents by 25% in key characteristics. Chronic Ryder is also available in feminized variety. GROWING Chronic Ryder regular shows the best performance of parents’ heritage. It grows into a uniform and compact plant that rarely exceeds 1m in height. Thanks to its compact size it is better grown in small spaces, terraces, and balconies and is quite suitable for stealth growing. The plant forms a single huge central bud cola with few side branches. Fatty and frosty buds will be ready to harvest in 70-75 days from germination. You’ll be truly surprised how big and dense buds are - the nice and fruity smell adds extra pleasure. The short growing period and strong resistance are other strong points of the strain. Chronic Ryder regular would be a great choice for growing outdoors with short summers - you’ll get your guaranteed high-quality yield in any case. Be ready to harvest up to 500 g/m2 indoors and 50-100 g per plant outdoors. TASTE and EFFECT Chronic Ryder regular has a nice taste - fruity and citrus tones complement one another, giving an unforgettable aftertaste. The effect is mild and doesn’t hit you like a hammer - the perfect choice for novice smokers. It brings balanced high and stone effects. Thanks to it, Chronic Ryder is a good smoke that calms your body, giving a strong body relaxation for a long time. CHARACTERISTICS Autoflowering: Yes Type: Regular | Autoflowering Room: Indoor | Outdoor | Greenhouse Genotype: Hybrid Genetics: (Serious Seeds) Chronic BX Chronic Ryder Finish time: 70-75 days from seed Indoor: Productivity: 500 g/m2 Height: 60 - 80 cm Outdoor: Productivity: 50-100 g/plant Height: 60 - 80 cm THC: High Flavour: Citrus | fruity | apricot Effect: Balanced high and stone | daytime | giggly
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On the 29th, irrigation was not possible for 2 days (25% dry leaves), they probably got a shock... Electricity fell into it. We'll see what happens in the end. Currently 33 days in bloom.
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OG 4Q24 Flower Week 7 Orangegasm (Fem) [ IRIE Genetics ] 12/12 @ Bolt (Day 21) Germination: 20 November 2024 #3A Earliest Harvest Date: 9 February 2025 #3B Latest Harvest Date: 19 February 2025 _________________________________________ Start of Week: [Wed Jan 22, 2024 CR2 4Q24 43:F:6:1] End of Week: [Tue Jan 28, 2024 CR2 4Q24 49:F:6:7] OrangeGasm Fertigation: - MAX: EC: [ 2.4, mS] - LightIntensity MAX: [ 850, µMol/m2/s] ______________________________________ __ Wed Jan 22, 2025 OG 4Q24 43:F:6:1 - [x] R&R Each Drip Ring Assembly (Assure NO Fertigation/Bio Build up) Runoff - Amount: [ .5, l] - EC: [ 3.8, mS/cm] - EC∆: [ 1.2, mS/cm] # Danger! Refresh Res (Filtered, pH’d Tap Water) - [x] Amount: [ 2, gal] - [x] Primer A&B: [ 35, ml] - [x] SLF-100: [ 10, ml] __ Thu Jan 23, 2025 OG 4Q24 44:F:6:2 Refresh Res (Distilled Water, pH: 7, EC: 0.0) - [x] Amount: [ 2, gal] - [x] Primer A&B: [ 39, ml] - [x] SLF-100 Runoff - Amount: [ 1.2, gal] - EC: [ 4.3, mS/cm] - EC∆: [ 1.6, mS/cm] # DANGER __ Fri Jan 24, 2025 OG 4Q24 45:F:6:3 Runoff - Amount: [ 0.3, gal] - EC: [ 4.1, mS/cm] - EC∆: [ 1.4, mS/cm] # DANGER  __ Sat Jan 25, 2025 OG 4Q24 46:F:6:4 Dump Res - [x] Remove Chiller and Fertigation Pumps - [x] Dump and CLEAN Reservoir, Note Sediment - [x] Detach Main Feedline - [x] Clean Chiller Pump - [x] Clean Fertigation Pump - [x] Dry ALL Components - [x] REASSEMBLE When Dry - [x] Clean 1/2” Fertigation Mainline Watered In Primer A&B, CalMag Fuel, Silica Skin - Amount: [ 1.9, l] - EC: [ 2.7, mS/cm] Refresh Res w/ Full Hydro (Primer A&B, Silica Skin) - [x] Amount: [ 4, gal] - [x] EC: [ 2.7, mS/cm] - [x] Primer A & B: [ 73.1, ml] - [x] SLF-100: [ 40, ml] Runoff - Amount: [ 0.25, gal] - EC: [ 4.1, mS/cm] - EC∆: [ 1.4, mS/cm] # DANGER __ Sun Jan 26, 2025 OG 4Q24 47:F:6:5 Refresh Reservoir - 2 Gal, EC: 2.7 - [ ] Check, R&R Fertigation Manifold Filter as Needed - [x] SLF-100: [ 10, ml] - [x] Primer A & B: [ 40, ml] Runoff - Amount: [ 1.25, gal] - EC: [ 4.2, mS/cm] - EC∆: [ tbd, mS/cm] __ Mon Jan 27, 2025 OG 4Q24 48:F:6:6  Watered In Primer A&B, CalMag Fuel, Silica Skin - [x] Amount: [ 1.9, l] - [x] EC: [ 2.7, mS/cm] IPM - [x] Spray sides - cover Air holes of Airpot - [x] Spray tops of pots to drench - [x] Dr. Zymes, 28ml/quart @ 85°F - [x] APPLY Mosquito Bits to Top of Containers Runoff - [x] Amount: [ 1.5, gal] - [x] EC: [ 4.9., mS/cm] - [x] EC∆: [ 2.2, mS/cm] # *** Plants Should Be Fried! Need to R&R Pre-Filter again. Fan Flow significantly diminished. __ Tue Jan 28, 2025 OG 4Q24 49:F:6:7  Replace ACI Pre-Filter - [x] Remove Plants - [x] Disconnect Irrigation Emitters - [x] Remove and Rinse Drain Tray - [x] Drop Front of Light - [x] Remove & Replace Pre-Filter - [x] Verify Airflow (Make sure we don’t need to change the carbon in the filter) - [x] Raise front of light to run position - [x] Replace Drain Tray - Reposition Shims - [x] Replace Plants AS THEY WERE - [x] Replace Emitters - [x] Verify Irrigation Runoff - [x] Amount: [ 0.5, gal] - [x] EC: [ 4.8, mS/cm] - [x] EC∆: [ 2.6, mS/cm] # *** Plants Should Be Fried!
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Buds continue to swell as the plant heads into week 8 of flower… last feeding of Gaia green 2-8–4 & worm castings was top dressed into the soil and have been feeding plain water to her ever since.
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Müsste die 11 Woche sein, denkt ihr hier passiert noch was? Würde zum Wochenende hin ernten oder noch etwas warten ? Die großen Sonnensegel sehen noch so fit aus und generell noch sehr viel xhlorophyl vorhanden, lieber noch eine ganze Woche warten? Gedüngt wird nicht mehr nur ordentlich mit Wasser gespült bis es unten raus läuft
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👉Alrighty Then👈 So we are at DAY 28 of Flowering with the Sugar Larry 👈 And she's doing fantastic 👍shes finally done with her stretching 👌 and building Budz 👈 😀 decided to showcase pheno #2 , definitely has different traits then #1 very interesting 😀 thoe both are killing it 👈 Hedgehogs in full bloom 👈 I did a major strip , defolation is complete 👌 Except for some slight watering , ive been doing some defolation as well as some LST manipulation to pull branches to the side 👌 👉I had to Top her during the middle of 4th week 👍 Happy Growing 👉Soil Provided by ProMix.ca 👉Nutrients Provided by Agrogardens 👉Lighting Provided by MarsHydro.ca Thanks my friends for the great support over the years 🙏 Happy Growing
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Week 3 of flowering is in the books for the Auto Gelato girl from Fast Buds Genetics <3 ... this week I did some minor cleanup with dying leaves, and the lower branches that were being blocked out by the top colas. This girl has recovered exceptionally well after being supercropped the previous week, so excited to see how she'll continue to grow and stack up in the coming weeks! Considering I snapped the stalk while cropping, I was really surprised to see just how well the wound healed up over the week. These plants are awesome! Anyway, be sure to check back next week for more updates! Happy growing 💪
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11 Noviembre: Primer riego con 2.5EC y 5.9pH, runoff de 2.9EC y 6.2pH, en una semana más ya deberían estar recibiendo 3.0EC y seguir con esa concentración por todo el cultivo. Alturas están entre 15cm y 20cm. 13 Noviembre: Riego 2.5EC y 5.9pH, runoff de 3.3EC y 6.2pH. Hoy se removieron los primeros nodos de cada planta y se les hizo poda apical. 14 Noviembre: Riego 2.5EC y 5.9pH, runoff de 3.3EC y 6.2pH en la mañana. En la tarde se realizó transplante a maceteros definitivos de 5 litros con 4 litros de sustrato aprox. el cual fue pre cargado hasta la capacidad de campo, con 3.0EC y 5.8pH, desde este punto se debe esperar un par de días hasta que el dryback(secado) del sustrato sea de un 35-40%, lo cual vendría siendo el primer P3 del cultivo, una vez se alcance ese porcentaje de secado, se comenzará con los primeros riegos de precisión llamados P1.
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Welcome to Auto Alaskan Purple Grow by PoshGrow! 🍀 Week #4 2020 August 13th - 20th. General Info: When planted: 2020 July 23th. Week: 4 Days: 21 - 28 Last Update Day: 2020 August 18th. Plants: 5 Alaskan Purple Auto. Equipment: Tent: MarsHydro 1mx1mx2m or 39"x39"x72". Light: HLG 260w V2 Rspec QB Kit. Exhaust: 4" 322 CFM fan + Viper Carbon Filter. Intake: 4" 100 CFM Inline Fan. Oscillating Fan: Lower: 4" Ram Fan. Upper: 16" Oscillating Ram Fan. Humidifier: Taotronics TT-AH001. Dehumidifier: Pavlit MD750. Soil: NPK soil 40% Compost, 50% Peat Moss, 10% Agroperlite. Pot: 7 gallon Fabric Pot x 5pcs. Nutriens: Fox Farm Trio. PH Correcton: Chemoform pH-Minus Granulat. PH Pen: Cheap Chinese one, I callibrate it every time I use it. Water pump: Digital microscope: Comment:
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I payed 55 dollars an eight for the same level of quality, I got 18 eights of top shelf for $10 not including nutrients and supplies, yeah I'm never going back to a dispensary unless I'm traveling. This experience has improved my life in many ways. I got a total of 7.8 ounces from this grow, I'm happy :)
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This week has been really hard. Until this week the electricity was turned off on average once every two days, for 4 hours in the evening peak time. But the last 7 days the electricity is turned off twice or thrice a day also for 4 hours. I think that in this case it is better to reduce the light day and slowly started to reduce it at the beginning of flowering, and already reduced it from 18 to 16 hours, and that was a bad idea (((: The temperature outside was already around 30 degrees in the shade, and it rained almost every evening, as a result, the air humidity up to 65-70% so it was impossible to leave the girls in a closed box without a working fan. I had to cover the windows and work with my hands waving a piece of cardboard)))), adding back 30 minutes of evening sun outside the window each day. Same story since morning, but this more positive, we meet the morning sun, and move around the whole apartment behind the light frame of the window, running away from the shadow))) the main thing is that the morning is sunny, because will have to continue working with a piece of cardboard until the light is turned on (((: Also, as you can see in the first photo, I installed a large fan and removed the lower wall of the box, because the ventilation system did not help ((: Looks crazy but I already like it, new challenges and new experiences all the time, big plus a good habit to wake up at dawn! So no matter what, we are happy and breathe deeper 🙏
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8/3 Went over to treat the 10th planet that needed water with plant doctor around 10:30. I was in the garden at 6 but didn't have much time. That plant seems to be curled up or "droopy". It DID need water. I defoliated a few sep leaves off it but I didn't see any today. I guess I don't ever really see the leaves "up" or praying like I do with the rest of tge plants. It's starting to flower like the rest though. Today is the day everything is supposed to get its second or third plant doctor dose but I decided to wait until they need the water. I don't think 24hrs will mean much. I've been staying on top of defoliation but I'm seeing some pillar damage. I'd like to spray bt but what my buddy said about spraying with septoria is still in my head. Maybe I can use citric acid. That way it won't "wash away" spores it will just eat them. At least I think. And I hope lol. Birds get most of the pillars but I hand pick some too. I need to pick up nutes. Wondering if I should just get grow big again. I don't use much but plants are switching to flower and leaves are fading. I have big bloom and kool bloom bit neither have nitrogen. I still need some sort of nitrogen. Especially since that could be a deficiency. Not sure if it's the transition or a condition with the sep. I see some interior small leaves bleeding out and some dying. I'm wondering if what I thought was earwig damage years prior was really a combo of sep and they just ate the evidence. I'm super grateful though. I've got some resilient girls and they're doing well. The special kush in flower is gorgeous as well. Looks like I'll have an early plant. Short flowering time on this strain. Smells pungent. 8/4 Treated everything in the garden with plant doctor except the 10th planet I got yesterday. I need to take a closer look at that plant. It rarely looks "happy" like my others. I'll check it again later. 3tsp per gallon and 1gal a plant. The 10s got a half gallon. This seems to be working great. I have some defoliation to do on the tenth planet I was talking about earlier. Everything is in some form of flower. The flowers on that early special kush are getting bigger. I'll update this later. UPDATE: WENT BACK OVER AT NOON TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT OTHER 10TH PLANET TO SEE IF IT PICKED UP AT ALL. IT DID. IM GLAD I CAME OVER TO CHECK THOUGH. MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. THE OTHER 10TH PLANET LOOKS HORRIBLE O. FILM FROM ONE ANGLE LOL BUT ITS REALLY A GREAT LOOKING PLANT AND IM USUALLY FILMING AT LIKE 6AM. JIST WANTED TO STICK UP FORCMY GIRL AND HER BAD HAIR DAY. ITS BEEN HIT AND A FEW OF HER LEAVES ARE TACOED. SHE GOT HER FIRST "PREVENTATIVE" DOSE OF PLANT DOCTOR WHICH WAS HALF A TSP/GALLON. IT REALLY SEEMS TO BE DOING SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER. EVERYTHING IS. IM HAVING TO LOOK HARDER AND AM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING LEAVES EFFECTED BY SEPTORIA. KNOCK ON WOOD. IM EXCITED. THIS IS GOING BETTER THAN I THOUGHT. IM STILL GOING TO BE MONITERING LIKE I USUALLY DO. 8/5 Watered the 10th planet I dodnt get yesterday. Looked and didn't see any sep leaves. Phone was dead so I vouldnt do a video. Went back over at like 130pm and did a quick video and checked out the girls. Everything is looking good and transitioning well. I WANT to use a diy Dr. Zymes with citric acid as I've noticed a few pillars. Only reason I've hesitated is because my buddy said not to spray it. But if what I spray it with "eats" it I would think it's ok. But what do I know. Birds get a great deal of them. I watch them on the camera sit on the cage and wait for one to stick it's head up before snatching it up. Still need to get either more grow big or a bloom product with nitrogen. I was able to defoliate that other 10th planet of anything suspect. It's hard work but it's worth it in the end. 8/6 It's like 81 at 4pm. I didn't have time to video this morning but i went back over. WATERED EVERYTHING THIS BUT THE 50 AND THE 10TH PLANET I GOT YESTERDAY. Temps are supposed to pick up soon and it will be in the 90's again. We've had like NO rain. I searched for leaves that had signs of sep to defoliate. I may find one or two but for the most part things are doing great. Overall I'm happy. 8/7 Bought a new bottle of grow big. Wanted to switch to the roots organic teas but I cant do that invthe middle of an already complicated grow. I'll switch nutes next season. I'm noticing some pillar damage. Not much amd I've been hand picking them. I've found a few in curled up leaves. I watered the 10th planet in the front corner that didn't get it yesterday. I hope the watering yesterday will hold them until the morning. I'm still thinking about doing an application of diy Dr. Zymes to clear up any random pests. I'll ask a question and see what other growers on here have to say. EDIT: MY SPIDEY SENSES STARTED TINGLING SO I WENT OVER TO CHECK ON THE GIRLS THIS AFTERNOON. THE MK ULTRA THAT I LEFT NATURAL WAS STARTING TO DROOP. THE REST OF THE GIRLS COULD WAIT. I MIXED WATER FOR ONE OF THE TENS BUT DECIDED AGAINST IT. I DONT WANT TO OVERWATER AND I THINK IT CAN MAKE IT. I GAVE THE MK ULTRA A FULL WATERING CAN WHICH IS ALMOST TWO GALLONS. IT WAS PUCKING UP BYVTHE TIME I LEFT AND WASNT EVEN ALL THE WAY DOWN. IM GLAD I CHECKED. The ONLINE cannabis community can be such a joke. There ARE good groups but this places sucks. I put a question up as PART of the research I was doing and ive received some dumb answers but this was aggressive too. I had it figured out prior to reading the answer but it caught me off guard. I decided that since Im able to keep it suppressed with what im doing (leaf septoria on a couple of plants) than don'tchange it. I've dealt with it before and kept it suppressed but not nearly as well. It was a yes or no question really. Stated for outdoor experienced growers as I was looking to avoid the copy paste/ look how smart I am bullshit. I just have an anxiety disorder and like to hear numerous responses before I act. I figure it out and log on and I get some smart ass response from an INDOOR grower. When I SPECIFICALLY asked for EXPERIENCED OUTDOOR growers (as the question is unique to the outdoor environment and indoor growers seem snobby and seem to get jealous when they see my massive plants a quote what they just searched on the internet). I can read shit on the internet as well and had prior to posting. I'm sorry if my success with a product (that you are unaware of "but can't see how it could work" (despite not knowing the active ingredients by your own admission) and lots of hard work have prevailed. When I have to ditch a plant it's 1/4 to a full elbow. Not an 1/8th. So I won't be burning shit. I hate when people say that. There are cases for it but many new growers have been led astray with stupid advice like this. ESPECIALLY if everything is going GOOD! If a plant was less than perfect I'd put it in my concentrates bag. Not much fits through a 25 micron screen. But by all means burn your plants. I have no idea how I have ZERO wpm this year but I would hear shit like this for a couple leaves "with gravel on them" on a 10ft tall plant that yielded like a pound. So I don't know why I listen or why I even responded. Even if it WAS wpm I would've kept it and washed it. It must be nice to be able to work 20 weeks on something numerous times a day put a bunch of money in it and when you hit flower burn it because you don't want to do the extra work. You can easily tell the people that don't grow outdoors. It's a completely different game. But since I've already written it I'm leaving it. One more thing. You didn't even know what the active ingredients in my product were. How can you make ANY statements about the efficacy of ANYTHING without knowing what it is? You said "unless it's a bunch of silica" that provokes an immune response. It's not silica hun. I've been hunting for years for something that works. Go back to your closet. 8/8 The Lion's Gate Portal. Watered everything but the mk ultra and 10th planet upfront I got yesterday. I was going to feed but I ran out of time. I may still feed today I'm not sure. I found a couple septoria leaves on that pink kush that has "some" soil from last year in it. That is a mistake I won't make again. I'm checking a few times a day and defoliating anything suspect. The girls are looking good. I'm proud of them. Very resilient. They've withstood pretty much everything nature can throw at them. HAIL, torrential downpours, 30mph winds, disease and still they are thriving. There's really no way to explain the feeling that I get when I come to the garden in the morning and see everything looking good and smell that familiar odor. Serenity I guess. Pure serenity. I'll update if I feed or do anything else. EDIT: WENT BACK OVER AT LIKE 5:30 since it was over 90°. Everything was fine waterwise though. Caught a HUGE grasshopper and found a pillar the likes I've never seen. It was a scary looking bastard! Looked like one of the worms from tremors and it almost seemed like it had some silk around it. It opened its mouth when I went to grab it. It was brown but neon green when I squished it. I need to find a good mulch. They say that helps with septoria. I defoliated a few leaves while I was there. It's close to the time for app of plant doctor. I decided to not feed. I saw a couple leaves that had SLIGHT nute burn on the tips. I'll observe and treat accordingly. 8/9 I decided to not feed this week. All new growth looks great and I noticed SLIGHT burns on tje tips of a few leaves so I figured I'd back off this week. Boy that early special Kush keeps getting bigger. It's going to be nice to have one plant ready long before the others. I'm wondering about my other 10th planet. The one that's had all the plant doctor treatment is doimg fantastic! The other not as much. It's droopy more often than not and doesn't really have many leaves effected by sep. What it LOOKS like is that beat curly top virus. The plant was one of the largest but it's much smaller sister has surpassed her (by far) and looks extremely healthy. I think I may move the plant out of the enclosure. It's a big plant and maybe after it's gotten treatment it will improve but I'm not sure it's worth the risk. It's spaced pretty far from everything else but still. Has me worried. I was reading that like 90 something percent of cannabis coming from California is infected with a virus. Don't remember where I read it but it wad a reputable source that was cited. Looks like I'm not doing ethos outdoors again. I may do some indoor this winter if external things come