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Hello gardeners! I'm starting my third grow after two good attempts where I learned a lot. In my first trial I was able to pull 40 + 20 + 20 = 80 g under not optimal conditions (limited time mostly), and in my second I improved to roughly 40 + 40 + 60 = 140 g with one additional week in veg and an additional led panel during flower. Now, my goal is to harvest 3 x 60 = 180 g with pretty much the same set up. The differences from my previous grow will be: 1) 1 more week in veg (total 6 weeks): I felt that my girls were not mature enough when I flipped them to 12/12 in the last grows. I wanna see them stronger and more robust this time 2) Use a larger pot size during flower (5 gal): for the same reason as above, I want to give them the opportunity to be strong and robust plants 3) Reduced number of colas (16 per plant): last time I was a bit conservative doing lollipop and removing the little side branches, and ended up with ~23 colas/ plant, which did not allow proper spacing between colas. Although ventilation was never a problem, there was a lot of shade that could not be avoided. 4) Improved feeding regime: (see images) one of my goals with my growing is to establish a good feeding regime that works reasonably well for average strains with my growing medium (PRO MIX herbs and vegetables). Since the medium is a hybrid between soil and soiless, the plants don't need extra nuts in the first weeks, but as the plants grown, the organic compost present in the medium becomes not sufficient. My feeding strategy is basically the GH Flora Series - Drain to Waste chart with reduced amounts in the first 4 weeks and slightly less nitrogen during flowering. 5) Height Control: since the girls will have an extra week to grow, I'll need to be extra cautious and control their height from the very beginning. I'll be doing 1 top in the CBD and GG, and probably 2 on the Moby Dick. I also may try something similar to manifolding on the Moby Dick if she starts to grow really faster than the others. In addition, I'll be scroging everything as low as I can. 6) LED panel distance: last time plants finished flowering about 16 in away from the lamp. I feel that I can lower it to 13~14 without problems, so I'll try this too SET UP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grow tent 2 x 3 x 6" hidden on a closet (0.54 sq meters) Light: 2x LED Panel VIPARSPECTRA 450w (200w real) Air filtration VivoSun 4" exhausting outside the closet Air circulation: 2x 120mm 5v desk fan Container: Red Solo cups / 1 GAL / 3 GAL / 5 GAL Medium: 75% PRO MIX Herbs and Vegetables (sphagnum peat moss, Peat humus, compost, perlite, gypsum, limestone, organic fertilizer, Mycorrhizae - NPK: 0.30 - 0.05 - 0.10) + 25% Perlite Nuts: GH Flora Series Ph: 6.0
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Medusa 2/5 is starting to get fatter. I decided to Lollipop and remove the lower growth. Im curious to compare the colas and see if lollipopping really increases bud size. This plant really grows beautifully, two main colas in top from the topping, and all the other colas around the two main colas. I started giving green sensation PK booster this week I reckon another 4 weeks before harvest.
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Week #18 GSC By Kannabia Week #18 Mar 8th-15th Week #7 Flower This week she's looking beautiful purple through out the plant the orange in the buds. Stay Growing!! Thanks for stopping by!!
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6/1 I'm anxious to get my plants in their final homes. Another 90 degree day today and then it will be cooling off with some showers. I plan to take advantage and utilize that to make the transition. I have some small burns on a couple plants bit considering the weather we've had its nothing. Temperature swings 50 degrees. I hope these girls do OK outside. I was tired and stoned last night and I accidently topped a plant I had already FIMed. Oh well. Transplants soon. Supports screwed in after the heat. Plants have been handling this weather like a champ. Big thick healthy stalks. UPDATE PUT THE PLANTS IN AROUND 730. Cutting down on light hours I'm poverty close to where we are. It was 95 today. Plants have suprisingly little burning. My fan was taken so they go without that tonight too. In the next few days it's going to cool down and that's when I'll transplant. Only thing left before transplant is sanitizing trellis and supports. Easy peezy. Especially if it's supposed to be in the 50s. And people dent climate change lol. I'm hoping that all this adversity makes my flower a higher quality. I'm glad to have the quantity to pick the best phenos for the BIG POTS. Im trying to stay excited but it's just so dumb hot. Oh well. If the plants can do it so can I. I'm planning to give them some kelp me kelp you next watering and may start some light organic nutes. 6/2 Phone doesn't like uploading my videos. Broke record high temp yesterday 95 and tomorrow we will break the record low 50. Plants withstood the heat well and are doing great. Transplant soon. They were a little light but I held off on the water. Plan on it tomorrow. May transplant tomorrow. I have several videos that haven't uploaded. I thought they did but I was wrong. Oh well. UPDATE: Forgot to water. Some were light and others could've held off. Did the half a powerade bottle ahain. A litt ke less on the heavier ones. However I'm looking to transplant into final homes tonight and into this weekend. I sanitized a fifty and a forty so my bags and two pots are sanitized. Cage is sanitized and ready and pallets are sanktized and in place. The 40 and 60 fit PERFECT in the small space left from the pallets. Plus the plants always lean the opposite direction so things should go smooth. Only thingvleft is sanitizing stakes, bamboo, plastic garden stakes and all the other plastic training stuff. I'll just soak it while I transplant. Gotta mix the soil first too though. UPDATE. Heat went higher than expected and hit 90. I figured I'd go back around three and screw in suppirt stakes and begin getting everything ready for transplant (i.e. supports, mix soil, sanitize trellis) before I transplanted tomorrow MORNING was what I had planned. Unfortunately we got a huge thunderstorm with a shot ton of rain and it's gonna continue throughout the night. I think this is God's way of telling me to take a break. I can get up early and get those support stakes screwed in. Then when I get back from the wife's doctor's I can do the transplants. I'm trying to break the labor up into manageable chunks. Looking at my other diaries I can see that my plantscare fine in their three gallon homes. It'd a little disheartening seeing such big clones that I started so much earlier on the other diaries. However I always was fighting SOMETHING (usually more than one thing) and last year was a shit show. At least this year I stay away from anyone else's cannabis any clones and I'm extremely cautious. I've seen my cousin out perform me multiple times with healthy plants like this I'm excited to see how it goes. I really needed the break anyway but tomorrow morning the stakes will be in. Hopefully they'll be outside. 6/3 Broke the record for low days after breaking record for highs. I saw it 94 yesterday and the day before. On the way to my grow at 6am it was 44 degrees and it's not warming up much. Fifties at best. Rainy. I left the door closed. The big door on the otherside got opened as the other end of the garage neededcto he used. If the rain let's up I'm going to set up the grade stakes so I can transplant in the morning and throughout the day. I think I'm going to light dep a couple of them and leave them in the 3's. We'll see. UPDATE: At 12:30 the temp today was 44. Yesterday it was 94. I can't believe this. Plants are doing great though and are in the garage under lights for the day. The BIG door was open part of the day. Didn't take any pictures (or even enter the grow area) as I sanitized the last 40 gallon pot and a bunch of grade stakes. I drilled the grade stakes to the pallets in the front. The first row is done. Just need to sanitize the plastic trellis itself and finish attaching the other grade stakes. I don't need the fill trellis up by transplant. I just need the bags to not knock over and have SOME support. I'll be back over there either to tonight to put more supports in or tomorrow when I actually plan to start transplanting. I'm getting excited. After dealing witb the stiff that I sanitized I didn't dare go fuck with my plants so I looked through the window. I'll finish sanitizing the net tomorrow. These plants look great. I'm wondering if doing the two diagonal I poles with zipties actually works. It would save me some kone for sure. I'll definitely update in the morning. 6/4 It's warmed up to a balmy 44 degrees. My plantsxare in the garage still. Weather sucks this whole week but after this heavy rain it should be perfect weather to transplant these girls. A little to chilly but it will warm up and I need to get this shit done. I'm trying to do to much at once. I need to just out dirt in bags and get them outside. I'm glad I waited until after this craziness. Breaking temp records for high one day then breaking it for low the next can't be good for the plants. I'll update what gets done today. I may mix soil or I might wait until tomorrow. It will let up some then. Plants still look fabulous 👌 6/5 50 degrees still raining like hell. Rain until Friday. Plants are inside under the onecworking light. Lots of indirect light through the massive windows though. I'm planning on mixing soil today and tomorrow and getting bags and pots half filled. Just trying to break the labor up into manageable pieces. It's probably a good thing I didn't put them in their huge containers before all this rain. UPDATE: MIXED SOIL 1/3 of each (FOX FARM OCEAN FOREST, HAPPY FROG, AND ROOTS ORGANIC 707). I prepared I believe 11 containers for transplant. I need to sanitize two more containers and I'm good. I got a lot done. Might go back over. Set up extra cams too. I'm excited. Talked to my commercial buddy amd he motivated me. No reason my plants can't handle this shit. I've just had massive personal shit going on. Friday is the next GOOD day but these girls might go out earlier. I'm checking the forecast. I'll sanitize the other containers in the morning and fill them. 6/5 Today is usually my watering day but shit still seems heavy so I'm going to hold off. Despite that i need to transplant. I think they're wet enough. I could do it today. Plants are looking good and weather takes a better turn Friday. It's not raining hard though. It's just sprinkle right now. I may transplant some today depending on how things go. I'll keep the diary updated. UPDATE: I went back over with the intent to just mix soil and let it acclimate. I decided to try to transplant one. I grabbed a 10th planet and started to go. I had done a bunch of manual labor already so i wasn't thinking. Of course the fucker was dry and didn't wanna come out ofcthe pot and the root ball pretty much decintigrated in my hand so I'm not sure how that will go. Tried again with the Blueberry Cheese Cake. I thought the roots just might not have been rootbound abdcthat could've been the case. After having another rough transplant I recognized I was tired, all the hard stuff is done and it's gonna keep raining until Friday. I wanted to transplant three and put them outside but with the wind and rain and the difficult transplant I let them sit under the light in the garage in indirect light. I had the doors open for a while. Should be open now but i don't want to have to go back over and shut it. Plus I'm not to keen on getting water on my light. Let's hope for a better day tomorrow. This was the only thing I had going good. Phrple punches are still behind. I've decided I'm oing to light dep ttwo of the plants in the 3 gallon pots. The two shittiest or smallest plants (probably purple punch will be light deped. WENT BACK OVER AT FIVE AND IT APPEARS EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT. WILL HAVE CHECK IN MORNING. Vid won't upload. Tried multiple times. I'll try again tomm. 6/6 Waiting for a doctor's appointment when I should be transplanting buy whatever. Everything is looking really good. Despite me disint9grating the rootball in my hands the two transplants look great! When I get back I'm planning to get some more work done. It's still lightly raining off and on but the door is up. I'm lettingvthe soil mix acclimate a little bit too. Hard labor is mostly done. Now the intricate part. Wish me luck. Not sure if it will be today bit I'm hoping. WENT BACK OVER CAUSE IT WASNT RAINING BUT AS SOON AS I WAS CLOSE IT STARTED POURING SO THE PLANTS ARE UNDER THE ONE WORKING 150HPS AND THE AMBIENT LIGHTING FROM THE WINDOWS. TOMORROW IS TRANSPLANT DAY. I WONT HAVE A VEHICKE SO IT WILL BE TRICKY BUT IM GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN. Opened doors at 530. Video still didn't upload 6/7 Still raining. It's off and on and a nice rain though. It's 53 degrees at noon. I transplanted two 10th planet's into 20 gallon pots. I transplanted these two a little differently. I put the bags in there final spot I side my cage andctransplanted in the misting rain. The first one came out and seemed to be heavier on the bottom and broke off. I tend to "throw" them in the hole before they collapse. With my anxiety I suck at transplanting. Plus these plants haven't filled the 3 gallon pots with roots yet but i want hem in their final homes and its time to go outside. I transplanted the other two plants indoors and let them have days in the garage with the door open and the light on then protection from the elements at night. I've been doing this for awhile. They would all be outside if the weather wasn't so shitty. This rain is supposed to stop. I'm curious as to what will be the fate of the two plantsci transplanted and left outside. I'm praying and hoping for the best. I also put my back tarp up so I have a wind break between rhe buildings. I stopped working because I didn't want to fuck anything up. Anxiety disorders suck. TOOK A BUNCH OF VIDS BUT THEY WONT UPLOAD. GOES FROM 9% TO 65% BUT ALWA7S TURNS RED "FILE FAILED TO LOAD". I'LL KEEP THE DIARY UPDATED. ESPECIALLY IF I GO BACK OVER. WAS ABLE TO LOAD A COUPLE VIDEOS. I GUESS ITS NOT AS BAD AS I THOUGHT. AT LEAST I HOPE. WENT BACK OVER AT 3 AND CHECKED THINGS OUT. THE TWO REXENT TRANSPLANTS I LEFT OUTSIDE SEEMED TO BE IMPROVING. DESPITE THE FACT I DUMPED A SHIT TON OF SOIL ALL OVER ONE OF THEM. IT SNAPPED A LITTLE BRANCH CLOSEST TO THE SURFACE. ITS STUFF I'LL REMOVE ANYWAY BUT STILL. IM REALLY CROSSING MY FINGWRS AND PRAYING THESE GIROS WILL MAKE IT. With everything i have going on tjis is my respite.IM GOING TO TRY TO SEE WHAT I CAN ACCOmplish TOMORROW. SOME OF THE PURPLE PUNCHES ARENT READY FOR TRANSPLANTING THOUGH. I ALSO ADDED TEO TARPS TO THE CAGECTO COVER THE WIND TOWER BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD YEAR! Shut the door at seven. For some reason the two 10th planet's I transplanted (that fell all over the plant and I thought mightve broke it) look awesome lol. Despite the ridiculous pouring rain. It's going to let up soon and we are do fir some good weather. I'm trying to get everything (that isn't getting light depoed) into the cage. Four transplanted. Ten (I mean 8 more) to go.
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To germinate the seeds I put them in hot water for 12 hours, I put them in a dish with slightly damp paper and closed it with the film. The seeds are germinated in 48 hours. At this point I put the seeds in plastic cups previously drilled and filled with a mix of ground professional plus 30%, coco professional plus 69% and mychorrhize 1%, at a depth of 3 cm. Then I watered with 5 ml of distilled water with rhizotonic and NPK + micro elements 20-10-10 ph: 6.0 and c: 0.5. After 3 days the little ones came out. At 7 days from the seed the young plants exhibit an incredible vigor and an already thick and strong root system.
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Dia 62: Las plantas siguen desarrollando las flores aunque se ven un poco lento su desarrollo, ya se les nota en una gran parte buenas cantidades de tricomas, las temperatura actualmente le ha bajado un poco ya que en el exterior las temperaturas han bajado muchísimo a unos 10°C, pero intentando mantenerlas.
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👉Alrighty Then👈 We are back this week and they are killing it 👏 😎 🙏 zero issues 😀 👉So today we have flipped the clock and we are now moving to Flower , I've now started to implement my nutrients plan for PreFlower ..... 👈 😳So I will be showcasing just 3 this round even thoe I am growing 7 plants 😳 👉Black Domina From Weedseedsexpress 👍 👉Permanent Marker From Weedseedsexpress 👍 👉Sleepy Joe OG From Weedseedsexpress 👍 The other 2 are repeats cause they are pure fire 👈 You can view these 2 in the 👉Summer Classic Diary 💪 Had issues with the Banana Biscotti germination, so it's way behind and also the extra seed I popped 👉Purple Oreoz From Seedsman 👍 👉Persian Pie From Greenhouseseeds 👍 👉Banana Biscotti From Seedsman 👍 👉Gorilla Cookies From FastBuds Soil by Promix Nutrients by Cronks Lights by MarsHydro & Vivosun Well this should be fun 🙃 Thanks to all my growmies out there for stopping by its much appreciated 👈 👉Happy Growing👈
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Plant is doing great in the 1 gallons with the vivosun drip irrigation. Will be harvesting probably at the end of this week. She's at day 56 as of this update. I didn't post any updates for the first few weeks of flower.
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OG 4Q24 Flower Week 10 Orangegasm (Fem) [ IRIE Genetics ] 12/12 @ Bolt (Day 21) Germination: 20 November 2024 #3A Earliest Harvest Date: 9 February 2025 #3B Latest Harvest Date: 19 February 2025 _________________________________________ Start of Week: [Wed Feb 12, 2024 CR2 4Q24 64:F:9:1] End of Week: [Tue Feb 18, 2024 CR2 4Q24 70:F:9:7] OrangeGasm Fertigation: - MAX: EC: [ 1.6, mS] - LightIntensity MAX: [ 850, µMol/m2/s] ______________________________________ __ Wed Feb 12, 2025 OG 4Q24 64:F:9:1 Refresh Reservoir - Amount: [ 5, gal] - EC: [ 1.6, mS] - Primer A&B: [ 48, ml] - SLF-100: [ 15, ml] Reclaim Dehu - Amount: [ 4, gal] EC: 1.6 Runoff - Amount: [ 1.25, gal ] - EC: [4.3 , mS/cm2] - EC∆: [ 1.6 , mS/cm2] # Danger!!! (I don’t think so - Happy Plants) __ Thu Feb 13, 2025 OG 4Q24 65:F:9:2 Runoff - Amount: [ 2, gal ] - EC: [ 4.6, mS/cm2] EC: 1.5 Refresh Reservoir - Amount: [ 2, gal] - EC: [ 1.5, mS] - Primer A&B: [ 32, ml] - SLF-100: [ 10, ml] Reclaim Dehu - Amount: [ 2, gal] If we see the pistils of the last two plants shrink/collapse in the next 3 days, we may be ready Tuesday/Wednesday . . . I also note we’re about 2 days after from OPTIMAL BUD Structure, Foxtailing is becoming less well formed at largest top and some of the sooner ready buds … __ Fri Feb 14, 2025 OG 4Q24 66:F:9:3 EC: 1.4 1.5 gal dehu 3 gals+ refresh Reduced Fertigation Time 50% as Tank is at refill after 4+ gal yesterday, again. :-{ __ Sat Feb 15, 2025 OG 4Q24 67:F:9:4 Reclaim Dehu - Amount: [ 2.5, gal] Refresh Reservoir - 2 Gal - Primer A&B: [ 17.9, ml] - Resin Bloom: [ 9, ml] EC: 1.3 Runoff - Amount: [ 0.5, gal] - EC: [ 3.0, mS/cm2] - EC∆: [ 1.7, mS/cm2] __ Sun Feb 16, 2025 OG 4Q24 68:F:9:5 Refresh Reservoir - 2 Gal - Primer A&B: [ 16.5, ml] - Resin Bloom: [ 8.3, ml] Runoff - Amount: [ , gal] - EC: [ , mS/cm2] - EC∆: [ , mS/cm2] EC: 1.2 __ Mon Feb 17, 2025 OG 4Q24 69:F:9:6 EC: 1.1 __ Tue Feb 18, 2025 OG 4Q24 70:H:9:7 1000 - Remove Plants from Tent - Remove Drip Tray - Remove Light - found water unseen in bottom tray - the reason for unreasonable humidity - Removed Drip Rings - Dried bottom drip tray - Resealed Tent - Low RH _______________________ Harvest Log Max Min Average Height (in) 40 21.5 29.875 Weight (g) 700 157 385.5 Secondary Stem Count 30 17 21.125 Est Dried Trimmed Wt 140 31.4 616.8
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Feliz por como van mis gorilas, todos los días hay cambios y cada semana tengo que aumentar el riego, esta semana utilice en total 18 litros, 4.5 litros para cada planta aproximadamente. En los primeros 6 litros uso: ▪️︎4ml de Connoisseur A y B por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de Rhino por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de Bud Candy por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de Carboload por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de B-52 por litro de agua. Espero 30 minutos y despues aplico otros 6 litros con los siguientes nutrientes: ▪️︎4ml de Connoisseur A y B por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de Nirvana por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de Big Bud por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de Overdrive por litro de agua. ▪️︎2ml de Voodo Juice por litro de agua. No tengo medidor de EC, por lo tanto trato de que las mediciones en ml sean exactos con una jeringa. ☆ 1 día a la semana riego las plantas con 6 litros de agua sin nutrientes y con un PH en 6.0, hasta el momento no han presentado carencias pero tengo la duda si tienen exceso de nitrógeno por el color verde intenso de las hojas.
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Vamos familia que ya actualizamos la cosecha de estas Candy Rain de Zamnesia, para el concurso POWER BUDS Plagron x Zamnesia CONTEST. Ya era hora de cosechar, estoy bastante contento con los resultados. Vaya flores que se han marcado repletas de tricomas, y las flores se marcan aromas dulces y afrutados. Es una variedad bastante fácil de cultivar y muy resistente, crecieron desde el principio bien vigorosas, sin problemas y al final de todo recompensó. Las condiciones ambiéntales han sido máximas en 25 y mínimas en 20 y una humedad estable en torno al 36% al final de floración y en el secado. Os comento que tengo un descuento y para que compréis en la web de Zamnesia de un 20%, el código es ZAMMIGD2023 The discount 20% and the code is ZAMMIGD2023 https://www.zamnesia.com/ Espero que disfruteis este diario, buenos humos 💨💨
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3.9.2024: Start of week 8. Day 50 from seed, 46 from sprout. Nothing doing today, plant is healthy and getting fatter by the day. Plucked a few leaves but thats it. 3.10.2024: Day 51. Fed 1/4 strength fox farm trio mixed w/ calmag into over a gal of 6.5ph water. Gave roughly 3 liters of the solution. Runoff ppm is finally under 1000. Might increase nutes to 1/2 strength moving forward. Bud development on the main cola is almost half the main stalk now. I'm no pro when it comes to taking pictures so its hard for me to get clear, detailed shots of the nugs. 3.11.2024: Day 52, 48 from sprout. Moving along nicely. 3.12.2024: Day 53. Fed 1/4 strength, roughly 96oz at 6.4ph. I broke the feed/water/feed schedule and fed twice in a row. Also did some lite defoliation on the bottom fan leaves that weren't getting light. 3.13.2024: Day 54 from seed. Plant is doing its thing. 3.14.2024: Day 55. Fed again at 1/4 strength, 96oz at 6.6ph. Runoff ppm was 880. 3.15.2024: Day 56 from seed, 52 from sprout.
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Hola estimados. Gracias a Dios todo bien esta semana, el jueves 07 su primer día 12/12, hoy ya mostrando su preflora, el riego foliar con cannaboost hizo que este proceso fuese rápido (a mi parecer). Así que justo hoy comenzamos a contabilizar las semanas para ver de cuantas semanas son de floración. Hoy hice una desfoliación. El riego intercalado entre los dos bases que uso, foliar 3 veces por día de cannaboost, hoy inoculando trichodermas, y mañana el riego con el mismo ec que he venido regando, ya que desfoliamos, y esa subida de EC que siempre aconsejan las tablas de cultivo, no será necesaria, ya que la energía producida se distribuirá entre menos hojas, y lo restante se va al desarrollo de las flores. Solo usaré el feeding grow dos veces mas, una mañana y otra para la siguiente desfolación. Eso ha sido esta semana de encierro, la ventaja dedicarle tiempo a esto y obviamente compartir con la familia. Se les quiere a todos, que mi Señor Jesucristo bendiga sus cultivos y sus vidas. Genesis 1:19
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Just two more days in the dark, then it’s chop time! This run I’m testing out my DIY dry box — got a fan rigged up for airflow, should do the trick. Final harvest update dropping in like two weeks… fingers crossed for some sticky fire! Stay tuned, it’s about to get frosty!
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Day 64, 22nd of November 2021: Hi there! Here we go..... so basically pistils are appearing stronger this is the 2nd weeks since they started producing pre flowers. The plants getting a bit light might be some air circulation problem? However they look good and of course closer to the end the gettin' older so the leaves also die. Set up and timing is the same since flower season started. ViparSpectra XS2000 is on full power which is 240W so 100% capacity. Ventilation: 12 hours period when the lamp is on it switches 1 hour on and after one hour off mostly to keep the temperature and of course because of fresh air flow. When the lamp is off it switches on in every 2 hours for 15 min at the same time with the extraction fan. The extraction fan is on 12 hours when the lamp is, and then it switches on in every 2 hours for 30 min. That's all a bit more water for them from today also. Humidity quite the same approx 50%, temperature as well approx 26-27 Celsius. Fertilization remains the same since last week, the BioBizz family raised up to be 2ml/L each so it is like 2ml/L of BioGrow, 2ml/L of BioBloom, 2ml/L of TopMax... see the ratio above. The schedule of the fertilization has not changed happnes 2x a week except epsom salt just 1x a week.