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greenthumbartisan greenthumbartisan
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Day 37 - March 18, 2021 Ladies are looking good and healthy. Not much to report today. Just watching them grow Planning to take clones from rest of girls this weekend / over the next week. Watering: 02:00AM-2:30AM ~1 Gallon Water 10:00AM-1030AM ~1 gallon per pot Gave foliar spray (9:00AM): * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Reservoir 1: * tested 10:18PM * 2.01 EC * 5.5 PH * 70.7F * ~10-11 gallons * No Topping Off * Added 8ML PHup to raise PH from 5.5 to 5.8 Reservoir 2: * tested 9:50PM * 2.06 EC * 5.5 PH * 69.44F * ~10-11 gallons * No Topping Off * Added 8ML PHup to raise PH from 5.5 to 5.8 Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 9:00AM (reduced intensity from 100% to 50% to give foliar spray) ** 11:00AM (Increased intensity to 65%) ** 12:00PM (Increased intensity to 80%) ** 01:00PM (Increased intensity to 100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-75F (70F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 45%-60% (56% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60% RH (Lights Off) ~1181PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~740PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 38 - March 19, 2021 Did a little more training with tie downs today (F2,F3,F4,F6,F7,F8). Didn't have time to get to F1 and F5. Water reservoirs drop ~0.1 PH every watering. Considering converting over DTW for quality of life change. Plants have been responding well with current setup, is just starting to require daily adjustments to PH. Watering: 02:00AM-2:30AM ~1 Gallon Water 10:00AM-1030AM ~1 gallon per pot Gave foliar spray (9:00AM): * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Reservoir 1: * tested 11:30PM * 2.00 EC * 5.6 PH * 69.44F * ~10 gallons * No Topping Off * Added 6ML PHup to raise PH from 5.6 to 5.8 Reservoir 2: * tested 9:50PM * 2.07 EC * 5.6 PH * 69.44F * ~10 gallons * No Topping Off * Added 6ML PHup to raise PH from 5.6 to 5.8 Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 9:00AM (reduced intensity from 100% to 50% to give foliar spray) ** 11:00AM (Increased intensity to 65%) ** 12:00PM (Increased intensity to 80%) ** 01:00PM (Increased intensity to 100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-75F (71F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 45%-60% (54% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60% RH (Lights Off) ~1287PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~780PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 39 - March 20, 2021 Didn't do much with the ladies today. Spent most of the time in the room reconfiguring watering system as DTW instead of recirculating. New configuration using a single 20-gallon reservoir for watering and two separate 20-gallon reservoirs to collect runoff. Prepared new reservoir with the following: 20-gallons RO Water (0.08 EC) CalMag+ - 5ML per gallon Mills Nutrients Vitalize - 0.5ML per Gallon Mills Nutrients Basis A - 15ML per Gallon Mills Nutrients Basis B - 15ML per Gallon Mills Nutrients Start-R - 4ML per Gallon H2O2 - 10ML per gallon * Added 25ML PHup to bring PH to 5.8 from 5.1 * EC 2.51 * PH 5.8 Watering: 02:00AM-2:30AM ~1 Gallon Water 10:00AM-1030AM ~1 gallon per pot 11:00PM-11:15PM ~0.5 gallon per pot Gave foliar spray (10:00AM): * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Reservoir: * tested 10:30PM * 2.51 EC * 5.8 PH * 74.48F (Had water jugs sitting outside so temp is a little high. Temps are gradually falling and expect they'll normalize by morning) * ~20 gallons * No Topping Off (Fresh Reservoir) Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 10:00AM (reduced intensity from 100% to 50% to give foliar spray) ** 12:00PM (Increased intensity to 65%) ** 1:00PM (Increased intensity to 85%) ** 02:00PM (Increased intensity to 100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-75F (69F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 45%-60% (55% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60% RH (Lights Off) ~1227PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~845PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 40 - March 21, 2021 Light chores in the garden today. * Light pruning: Cleaned up small leaves at the bottom of the canopy not able to receive any light. Also removed a few large fan leaves smothering nodes at top of canopy. * Topped off reservoir with additional 12-gallons. ** CalMag+ - 5ML per gallon ** Mills Nutrients Vitalize - 0.5ML per Gallon ** Mills Nutrients Basis A - 15ML per Gallon ** Mills Nutrients Basis B - 15ML per Gallon ** Mills Nutrients Start-R - 4ML per Gallon ** H2O2 - 10ML per gallon ** 1.25ML PHup per gallon Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Gave foliar spray (9:00AM): * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Reservoir: * tested 10:00PM * 2.46 EC * 5.8 PH * 69.26F * ~20 gallons * Topped off with 12-gallons Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 9:00AM (reduced intensity from 100% to 50% to give foliar spray) ** 10:00AM (Increased intensity to 75%) ** 11:00AM (Increased intensity to 100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-75F (70F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 45%-60% (57% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60% RH (Lights Off) ~1293PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~800PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 41 - March 22, 2021 Just another day of watching the grass grow. Increased CO2 slightly to keep above 1200PPM. Also slightly adjusted A/C schedule to bring temps up to 78F-80F during lights on and 66F lights off. Turned humidity down slightly to keep it closer 50%. * Topped off reservoir to ~20-gallons. ** CalMag+ - 5ML per gallon ** Mills Nutrients Vitalize - 0.5ML per Gallon ** Mills Nutrients Basis A - 15ML per Gallon ** Mills Nutrients Basis B - 15ML per Gallon ** Mills Nutrients Start-R - 4ML per Gallon ** H2O2 - 10ML per gallon ** 1.25ML PHup per gallon Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 9:30PM * 2.50 EC * 5.8 PH * 69.26F * ~20 gallons * Topped off to ~20-gallons Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-75F (75F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 45%-60% (59% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60% RH (Lights Off) ~1274PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~680PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 42 - March 23, 2021 Yesterday evening modified CO2 and Temperature settings in the room. CO2 has consistently been between 1200-1300 ppm with temps ramping up to 81F during lots on today. (Using scheduler with A/C to gradually increase temps when lights first come on and decrease them last couple hours before lights off). Girls seem to be liking it. Can see signficant difference in growth since yesterday. Last week, before modifying resevoir to DTW config, I noticed what looked like could be Zinc / Iron deficiency mainly in F7 (maybe mag, not 100% sure). It was only impacting newest growth with yellowing in the leaves. Don't believe it has spread to new leaves, but as leaves get larger definitely looks more obvious. Continuing to monitor and watch for any further advancement of issue. Gave foliar spray (9:30AM): * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 9:30PM * 2.51 EC * 5.8 PH * 74.1F (with ambient temps being higher, res temp is higher as well) * ~12 gallons remaining * No topping off today Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 9:30AM (Reduced light intensity to 50% for foliar spray) ** 10:30AM (Increased light intensity to 75%) ** 11:30AM (Inceased light intensity to 100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-81F (75F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 50%-65% (61% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-70% RH (Lights Off) ~1303PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~780PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 43 - March 24, 2021 Gave foliar spray (8:30AM): * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Mixed of nutrient solution: ** 20-gallons RO water (0.05 EC) ** 10ML h2o2 per gallon ** 5ML Botanicare Cal-mag+ per gallon (0.54 after Cal-Mag) ** 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize ** 12ML Mills Nutrients Basis A & B per gallon ** 4ML Mills Nutrients Start-R ** 1.35 pHup (bring PH from 5.1 to 5.8) ** 2.03 EC Reservoir: * Added ~15-gallons of new mix to top off 20-gallons (7:30PM) * tested 8:00PM * 2.19 EC * 5.8 PH * 69.98F Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 8:30AM (Reduced light intensity to 50% for foliar spray) ** 9:30AM (Increased light intensity to 75%) ** 10:30AM (Inceased light intensity to 100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-82F (79F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 50%-65% (56% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-70% RH (Lights Off) ~1217PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~810PPM CO2 (Lights Off)
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greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisanstarted grow question 4 years ago
Look like Zinc and Calcium deficiency? Watering with 5.8/5.9pH, 2.06 EC (Runoff 5.8pH, 0.78 EC) Few leaves had small nutrient burn on the tips earlier this week. Nutrient burn appears to have tapered off.
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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2x2growing
2x2growinganswered grow question 4 years ago
Definitely looks like a ph issue. Have you tried to calibrate your ph meter?
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Nugs_are_us
Nugs_are_uscommentedweek 84 years ago
Wicked set up mate that is killer!! The lady’s look very nice hope you get some solid colas
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@Nugs_are_us, Thanks! fingers crossed
PigBearMan
PigBearMancommentedweek 84 years ago
Mario Bros would be proud of you. 😄👍
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@PigBearMan, Haha, I should paint the pipes green and mount some Mario characters on them
GuerrillaNo_4
GuerrillaNo_4commentedweek 64 years ago
Great set up my man, how long are you growing?
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@GuerrillaNo_4, Thanks! This is my first grow in about 9-years now. I grew for a couple years previously. Cut a lot of corners back then though and caused myself a lot of headaches lol Trying to be proactive this time around and maintain a bit more control on all the variables.
MedicalCannabisCultivation
Genius setup, mate!
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
TheCode
TheCodecommentedweek 84 years ago
DId you learn from HygroHybrid?
Gzuscamp
Gzuscampcommented4 years ago
@greenthumbartisan, im presently in my first hydro grow and am using a torus hydro perfect ph balancer drop in and I haven’t had to adjust ph AT ALL as of this point. Might be due to large res with single plant but they make an inline version as well you might want to look into and could still add to your system at this stage. Was skeptical of their claims and am still in veg but appears to be working! Your plants looks great!
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@TheCode, Gotcha, yea I've saw quite a few designs using PVC and scrog on youtube. I also saw a video on one Mr Canucks channel and grabbed the scrog nets he used. (found size that worked perfect for my setup) From there just played around with PVC pips to build a proof of concept for my needs and once I had the measurements down, I built 8x of them. Like 10 years ago I tried growing under 6x 600 watt bulbs and grew some pretty big trees; however, I spent two months having to army man crawl through the room to do basic maintenance lol. That experience was my biggest motivation to try and build something more modular this time around. Still a few quirks I'm running into with my setup, but will hopefully get smoother and smoother over time. 2G per watt will definitely be god . This is my first attempt using LEDs. Been a long time since I've grown, but the tech seems to have come along way since then. So far I've been very impressed. Hoping to see a good harvest them. As far as the pens, couldn't agree more. For the bloody cost, you would think maintenance would be easy. They're a thorn in the side. Every time I test, there's always the thought in the back of my mind, is this thing even accurate? lol Would be nice to not have to worry about pH (feels like its the bulk of the work) Good luck with your goal! hope you hit that 2G/w bar
TheCode
TheCodecommented4 years ago
@greenthumbartisan, Well especialy for newbies when they start this hobby all ph things can look difficult I mean knowing what pen to buy how to keep it working it looks the TDS meter is much easier to maintain and use because it's simple device, but with ph pen it lil bit annoying lol for me i change those cheap pens every year ,every new grow try to calibrate it and when im using it and finish using it put it in distilated water take it out and just put the cap back so idk cant really keep it really nice i dont have a fckn laboratory it;s little bit annoying .
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DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 64 years ago
Enjoy growth mate 🦄🍀🤞
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@DreamIT, Thanks!
noxethegrower
noxethegrowercommentedweek 104 years ago
Nice work looks great! Respect to us hydro growers 💪
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 113 years ago
Gelato is looking sooo fine, lemme have that!
Grow3rPT
Grow3rPTcommentedweek 114 years ago
Um cultivo que eu vou acompanhar 👍 Parabéns por esse cultivo maravilhoso