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Silver Surfer
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Sour Diesel (fem)
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Basil
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MichaelMo MichaelMo
6 years ago
This is a DIY Bubbleponics Seedling area that i've been using for starts. I've decided to try some things out, being a new grower, so I thought while I grow my, current, autoflower soil grow in the other side of the tent-why not setup a couple non auto since this tent is currently always in an 18/6 light cycle. Currently i'm gathering materials/designs for a larger/full-size RDWC for this tent. That will require my current autoflower to be done (so why rush right?). I'm a bit of a tech nerd and also in to 3d printing/diy-so this is also right up my alley. Strains: - Silver Surfer (1 week old 4/28/2018) - Brand is... a found seed from a local rec strain (will be keeping a sharp eye on this one to ensure i don't have a male and ruin my autoflower as well). - Sour Diesel (fem) - Purchased from ILoveGrowingMarijuana.com (Not Pictured, currently germinating seeds) Does anyone know why this seed shop isn't listed? Wonder if i should start buying somewhere else... - Basil (3 weeks old 4/28/2018) - Testing/Researching Companion Growing and one that was mentioned was Basil. Now i'm not quite sure which-so i actually have a few types. My daughter, wife, and I, have a love for gardening so all our window sills are covered with grow lights and such for quickly getting some good things to transplant to our small patch of outdoor garden. This particular plant was an outlying seed that missed the rapid rooter in my daughters little herb pot. After 2 weeks it grew and we were gonna pick it out so i rescued it gently from the soil (using my Fox Farms Ocean Forest ;) she's so spoiled) before gently rinsing roots, coating with AZOS, splitting a rapid rooter in half, and gently laying out the small roots and stem of the basil. The combo of the bubbling/humid DWC underneath and decent temps/light have really made this one jump. It was almost immediate that it was responsive to the growing conditions-that made me pretty proud of myself... i'm usually not that lucky. SETUP: This setup, again custom-and I could be off on a LOT of these things, is a Recirculating Deep Water Culture (bubbleponics) system. - 4W 300L/hr water pump - (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078XQ3FCL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) The pump has a 1/2" line piped to a 6 port chrome manifold. To ensure that there is circulation at all times I have a line that loops up then back down and ziptied loosely to the main up pipe. It's always on. One is a little longer that I use for gathering water for my stat checks. The others are for wherever i need it. Currently none really in use until i start seeing some actual roots emerge from the rapid rooter. - 6W 15L/min air pump - (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JPEVMC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) Air pump is currently set to highest, in tent (maybe i should put it outside? does it matter?), and connected to a T very close to, and equally split apart, 2x4" air stones. I have some SERIOUS air going through this thing. From what i've read i was under the impression that, for a 5 gallon bucket you'd way a minimum of 5L/min through an airstone for proper aeration. I am way over this-so i'm, again, assuming i'm safe. - 100W fish tank heater set to 70F. Again, going on recommendation to keep between ~68-72F so i shot for the middle. My daily checks show that i'm almost dead on that. - Many 3d printed parts and such. Overall i'm using 1.5 gal cleaning on a weekly cycle. I do daily checks on reservoir and am only adjusting if pH goes out of the range 5.8-6.3 (Does this sound about right)? Obviously i'd also want to adjust if my EC/PPM go out of whack but plants this big i'm not assuming i'll run in to this situation. My nutrient list is basically the FoxFarms basic hydro although i'm not using the Grow Big Hydro since i bought the stuff for soil. I'm using ~3/4 because of this. Also, i'm cutting everything recommended by FoxFarms down to 1/4 strength just to heed advice of others that know waaaay more that i do. Anyway-gardening has really become a fun thing for me to unwind during the day so I hope you guys enjoy reading while i try and get a bit more experienced.
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Grow Questions
MichaelMo
MichaelMostarted grow question 6 years ago
My Sour Diesel just broke ground and looks uncharacteristically brown-none of my other seeds have done this. Not finding much info on this, specifically-is she ok?
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Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedanswered grow question 6 years ago
It looks like she still has the shell of the seed attached. You could wait for it to fall off on its own or try removing it gently. Each have pros and cons... if the shell does not come off on its own the seedling will die (this just happened to me). Also removing the shell manually could damage the seedling, which could shock or kill it. I can’t really tell from the photos, but if you think you can gently remove the shell I’d go for it. Good luck!
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MichaelMo
MichaelMoweek 1
thanks! this is my first dwc besides a few proof of concept, 3d printable, desktop planters I've designed. I actually have my first soil grow along side this bin right now so I hope I can learn from these firsts. I'm having a blast!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadeweek 3
@@MichaelMo, So far, with my limited experience in hydro, I have observed that the initial tap root tries to grow straight down as quickly as possible. That initial root can get very long. At some stage a lillte later, once the tap root is finding what it needs, other roots start to form on their own but depending on where they find nutrients. I have noticed that those additional roots formed where grow medium stayed moist or submirged in the liquid below. In some of my other plants (Kale and Basil) there are now very extensive root systems from the sides and bottom of the root cup easily holding the plant up as it bulks up. But they came later. In fact, I wanted to transplant those plants to bigger buckets. But I could not because the root system is so extensive, threre is no way to pull the root cup out of the lid without extensie damage to the plant. The kale roots have actually filled the 2 gal bucket. For my cannabis plant, I have a huge lid/root cup combo on a 5 gal bucket and roots are growing throughout the bottom and sides of the basket where the medium is moist. So given a few more weeks, I think you will start to see those additional roots form on their own. One more thing, I've noticed that when the seedlings are very young, it appears that plant growth slows down or pauses while the plant seems to concentrate effort on it's roots. I assume the plant that seems to be developing a little slower at the moment is doing just that. There is a major growth spurt on it's way any day now once the roots have expanded enough to support it. Your plants are looking good!
MichaelMo
MichaelMo
awesome! that makes sense now and follows what I'm seeing. I didn't notice for the first few days, but smaller hairs are growing off of, and throughout, so looks like growth is still where it should be. Thanks so much for the reply-ive been scouring my books and online to get the info I need but first hand experience is priceless :)
CannaReaper
CannaReaperweek 1
Looks like everything is going well so far!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadeweek 6
They are looking nice!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadeweek 4
Looking forward to an update!
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadeweek 1
I saw this and thought hey, someone is growing basil along with Mary just like me? It can't be. But, yes it can. Looks like I will need to post a photo that includes my basil. I'm growing Kale as well (just harvested my 1st and made kale chips). Good luck with this grow. They both look great!
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedweek 2
It looks like she still has the shell of the seed attached. You could wait for it to fall off on its own or try removing it gently. Each have pros and cons... if the shell does not come off on its own the seedling will die (this just happened to me). Also removing the shell manually could damage the seedling, which could shock or kill it. I can’t really tell from the photos, but if you think you can gently remove the shell I’d go for it. Good luck!
MichaelMo
MichaelMoweek 2
thanks both that commented-i had to go with the earliest since both of you said the same thing :) I will try misting it gently. I also have some very small, gentle, tweezers that i use when inserting germinated seeds in to rapid rooters so i'll at least see if it is something that may come off easily. Thanks for the info-i knew the seed covering needed to eventually come off-but never having one do this i wasn't sure here. Thanks again!
FlavoursUk
FlavoursUk
@@MichaelMo, The misting with water as I said will help encourage it to come off, hope it works out for you buddy!
MichaelMo
MichaelMoweek 1
would love to know more, I've read a bit that basil and a few others, specifically, do a good job of regulating nitrogen and also help break down other helpful dwc stuff. I honestly have never tied it so here's hoping!