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85w (LED) Full Spectrum (Visible,IR,UV) Light Emitting Diodes/85W
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125w (LED) Full Spectrum (Visible, IR, UV) Light Emitting Diodes/125W
125w (LED) Full Spectrum (Visible, IR, UV)
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12-12 From Seed
weeks 13
Defoliation
weeks 5-6, 11-13
LST
weeks 5-7, 11-12
Soil
Grow medium
Vermiculite
Grow medium
Other
Grow medium
8 L
Pot Size
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Germination
4 years ago
7TH JUNE: Potted germinated seeds. And thank you all so much for the support. Once sprouted will update with pictures xo 6AM 3rd O' June: Watching Terminator: Judgement Day ..... Did I say terminator? My bad, I meant the lesser known "Germinator: Bit Early for Judgement, wouldn't ya say?" JOKES ASIDE: This is my first serious indoor grow (grown 6y outdoors, autos and non autos) - But I've decided to do this grow MY way, not my ... mentors way, who happens to believe in "all natural" (Also he's not growing the same seeds as me, his cost about half as much). I have a soil moisture/ph/light meter en-route, and am even toying with the idea of getting a 15/20L Jug with a tap on it, and hooking up a drip feeder to it. Before that, If I find the need, I will simply use one of those cones with a nozzle attached so you can regulate flow. Will be employing; LST. (Low Stress Training) Defoliation (As I always have. This is the only method listed on this wonderful site that I have practice In) FIMing (Because it seems like "topping" for people who think "Come now, that's a bit much?") Only semi-kidding here, all the documentation of effectiveness has swayed me, but intuition says DONT cut your main top bud in half? Unlike Defoliation which is intuitive (IE, "The lower arms never flower to the same extent, so why let the plant waste energy on them"?) HST (Provided I can overcome the instinct not to break my plants limbs) Again, jokes aside, HST (High Stress Straining) , I haven't yet had the time to look into why this works, how not to overdo it, etc. I'll do my best to keep this diary filled, because I see how invaluable it is to see where I went wrong "Last time" (This time), and learn from it. Just as I'd learned much from others diaries =] *** Pictures coming as soon as I have something other than wet tissues to show! =]
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Week 1. Vegetation
4 years ago
5.08 cm
12 hrs
7.5
2 L
25.4 cm
Nutrients 1
Homemade Compost in potting mix (added retroactively) 50 mll
In reference to the 2 that didnt sprout, I did some soil/root surgery and it's seemingly saved! I'm sure it's going to be a sick little plant, destined to grow smaller than her sisters and be.... less dank =P - The final non-sprouter, I tried giving it a motivational speech, but alas, nothing. Started Germination of 2 more before I realised me going all Frankenstein on them was going to work, even on one, I'm highly surprised. All I found sub-soil was almost a single leaf (that would have grown into a head) about 2 millimeters big, but looked decidedly dead, or at least rotting. Apparently leaves rot underground moist soil, who knew? [Null and void. I saved one!] Unfortunately 2 of 5 have yet to sprout (Though I'm writing this at 10:30AM, maybe a miracle has happened since last visit =] . I have begun germination of 2 more seeds. Any insight would be wonderful. I have Cannazym, & PK13/14, but I know that isn't for use until flowering begins. However once they're strengthened a bit I believe I can use Cannazym? I think I will invest in BioBizz Veg (I forget the name - But the one for while the plant is in Veg. mode) I know I need to bring PH down. I have a moisture / pH / Lumens probe, aswell as simple paper. Im thinking a small introduction of citric acid. However OF COURSE I will look into if that's utter lunacy or not.
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arcanegrow
arcanegrowstarted grow question 4 years ago
My soil pH is currently around 7.5 - as I understand it certain nutrients cannot be efficiently absorbed above 7. Is it crazy to consider possibly a touch of citric acid mixed in with my water/ nutrients. If so, what's a less plant-murdering way of going about acidifying?
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Treetopflyer80
Treetopflyer80answered grow question 4 years ago
Best way to lower the pH without harmful chems use apple cider vinegar two tablespoons per gallon will drop pH from 7.5 to 5.8-6.0 garenteed use in every gallon
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3lementa1
3lementa1answered grow question 4 years ago
Just get Ph up and Ph down. They're a few bucks each. It's really not worth messing around with over a few bucks, long-term. I used ACV once last grow and it was fine but over long-term it's just a few bucks and it's months of work. Get Ph up and Ph down.
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sir_isO
sir_isOanswered grow question 4 years ago
Citric acid is a decent way, though not ideal (it's a weak acid), very good component though (as it's central to plant metabolism and can aid nutrient uptake. Ascorbic acid could be added to that, along with say, sugars or acidic nutrient components (maybe like tartaric acid, which is potassium stuff).
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Week 2. Vegetation
4 years ago
10.16 cm
14 hrs
7.2
2 L
25.4 cm
Nutrients 3
Citric Scheme (Custom pH Lowering) 10 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 5 mll
Performance Organics All Purpose Container Mix - Miracle-Gro
Performance Organics All Purpose Container Mix 20 mll
16TH 10PM: RAISED LIGHT UP CONSIDERABLY, AS CENTRAL PLANTS WERE GETTING LITERALLY LARGER THAN OUTER. PUT LED's to 100%. They are full Spectrum 125w (Visible/IR/UV). 600W equivalent Only read the next paragraph if your into grow-updates.... While stoned. I went P-Crazy, this amount of illiteration on vegetation should have me in litigation... DAMN IT. OK So "Project pH Perfection" started 10PM 16th. Mission briefing = Bring 7.5 pH down to 7, preferably slowly. My aim is -0.1 per 2 days, but I'll settle for -0.1 daily. Preperation for commencing "Project Positive pH is Perfectly Perverse, Personally being Passive = Providing Poor Conditions Producing Plants Paralyzed to Progress Past Self-Preservation (May aswell call it Self-Vegetation, pre-prubescent plants might stay that way if 7.5 pH is not pushed down to 7... Begin Phase 1; Citric Acid + Water = 6.0 pH. My aspiration + my inclination is to push my plants in a protracted way. Pouring Portions which cause -0.1 pH per day is plenty powerful for the P-Possessed pH prober writing this Preposterous Poppycock. High pH? I'm coming for you. P-illiteration aside. 400ml of hard-water (7.5) required no more than 2x as much citric (or other substance beginning with C) you could fit on the end of a key. Learn from my mistakes, remind yourself just because its white and on the end of a key.... [1] [1] - Jokes aside, for the public good I will weigh how much citric is needed to turn 7.5 (Standard hard-water, if your kettle is coated with limescale, you have basic water. No not simple water. alkaline water. Why is 7.5 worth working to change? Well, 7.5 pH soil actually is on the border of being so high your roots have trouble pulling 2 [forgets which nutrients - Will remedy before end of sentence] nutrients, and these 2 particular nutrients are most used during the flowering phase so, oh my bad, its more than 2 nutrients. So 7.5 pH soil, these nutrients are not absorbed as efficiently; 7.5 pH causes 10-25% drop in uptake of; 1) Iron 2) Manganese 3) Copper 4) Zinc Getting to 8 pH will render those 4 nutrients uptake-efficiency <30%. Super Seriously: 8pH begins to effect phosphorous uptake. Which though even at 8 its effect is small, seeing as 8 will cripple nutrient uptake as is, effecting one of the most important nutrients even a bit, is likely game over. Yes I'm a pH expert. I have a pHd.... Get it? No for real because this was my first indoor grow, I seriously humbled myself on most subjects.
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Week 3. Vegetation
4 years ago
19.05 cm
18 hrs
7.2
2 L
25.4 cm
Nutrients 3
Citric Scheme (Custom pH Lowering) 10 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 5 mll
Performance Organics All Purpose Container Mix - Miracle-Gro
Performance Organics All Purpose Container Mix 20 mll
Creme manderine is so centralised, I want to try and promote growth on the branches with LST(Low stress training which otherwise it will grow almost exclusively on the main stem. Psst..i learnt LST from here :) Do you
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Week 4. Vegetation
4 years ago
26 cm
18 hrs
20 °C
6.1
16 °C
0 L
38 cm
Nutrients 4
Citric Scheme (Custom pH Lowering) 1 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 1 mll
CANNA Start - Canna
CANNA Start 2 mll
30th June - My last post in this week all are being repotted tomorrow (There are 2 that were potted late) - I finally got lamp height right, and now have full life cycle CANNA products :) * 4 Very different kind of strains are being germinated today. I'm Picking up a new bulb also. * 1 New strain added * 1 New strain about to be germinated Excellent progress. Alkaline intervention with the homemade negative pH solution has nearly ended, done my last "high dose" I think.pH monitoring will continue and be adjusted as necessary. Lowered the output of my 125w fullspec LED. Running at around 100w I would say. First repotting done. Canna Start at about 4ml per litre on the younguns. Canna: Tera Vega use started. Not yet began PK 13/14. Soon... Lamp height adjustments are going to be made. [ MADE ] One plant got seriously dehydrated but is OK. I caught it in time. Considering capillary drip irrigation to never let that happen again Defoliation starting in next week or two. Lastly. New pots used an ericaceous mix. Same vermiculite volume stated at top. Thanks for all the love x P. S. I posted this in a hurry, lots of values changed obviously I just updated the new nutrient cycle. Will likely be done by the time you see this. Lastly lastly, I decided I'm going to start PK 13/14 but at about 1ml per litre which if I remember right Is 15x lower than recommended. Much love, mi amigos.
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arcanegrow
arcanegrowstarted grow question 4 years ago
Citric acid worked wonderfully by the way. Took maybe 750mg to turn 1litre of 7.6 pH down to 4. Soil pH is a pHerfect 7.1ish. Ill get it to 7 but at this point, who cares. Well, I do, but whatever. (posting here because I can't comment on comments 😐)
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InspireMe
InspireMeanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey mate, go on the week you wish to add this too. Click the 3 dots at the top right and the hit edit week. Scroll down and you'll be able to add it into that section. Hope this helps 🙂
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Week 5. Flowering
4 years ago
34 cm
14 hrs
22 °C
6.7
16 °C
8 L
50 cm
Nutrients 4
Citric Scheme (Custom pH Lowering) 1 mll
CANNA PK 13/14 - Canna
CANNA PK 13/14 3.5 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 0.5 mll
LST First attempt. Still bringing down PH. "Flowering stage" is very much a so-so thing, as some are CLEARLY flowering, while others are JUST beginning to. Will let you know at what my first LST attempt works out as, wish I'd got a picture but was under time constraints. (Moving to fabric pots of 3 Gallon size either tomorrow/day after. Entrusting someone else to pot something for me had adverse effects. Trying to undo that!) xo
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Week 6. Flowering
4 years ago
48 cm
14 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Normal
23 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
24 cm
Nutrients 3
CANNA PK 13/14 - Canna
CANNA PK 13/14 1.5 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 0.5 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 3.5 mll
If I could name weeks it'd be "GET ME THAT PK 13 14 STAT, THIS GIRLS GONNA DIE.... 😭WITHOUT... 😭 fat.. 😔Nugs...😥I'm OK, Im OK, her Nugs may not be the dankest in the land. But they're MY Nugs. Hmu if you want your plants drawn as anime characters, and when something like this happens, it'd be 🔥 artwork. First though, I'd better learn to draw, for sure that's the first step [/lockdownIsolationInsanity-Done] 1AM 19TH JULY: I find out my care taker for my setup HAD to move them... OK, shit happens. Sorry what this was 6 days ago? AND YOU LOCKED ALL THE NUTRIENTS AWAY SO THE PEOPLE YOU MOVED THEM FROM WOULDN'T SEE. And of course, of course he can't find (I call that lost, but he disagrees) the keys to where he locked them. OKAY.........😡 It's okay though, locks are made to be broken (when your tomato crops livelihood depends on it /wallets livelihood), and I'm a simple man. "Ooga Booga, Me break through cos me big strong man." Jokes aside I'm just dissembling this fucking lock tomorrow. And he's 100% on board, because if I'm giving him "__" % just to literally do the most basic stuff. Say, 20%... Sounds cool, oh wait no 20% of zero? Damn, that's zero. Yikes. So we're getting these plants fed ASAP. :) VERY EVENTFUL UPDATE :) * Apologies but this week will be light on details - Will just give the main events. LST - 1st Attempt ever, appears to be workinPotted in 3 Gallon fabric bags. Citric intervention over, but after posting this I'm going looking for ph down, Im unvortable constantly using Citric t lower pH. On 3 biggest plants (~45-50cm), using only Tera Vega and PK 13/14. Used old pictures, because of some chaos.. lets say. Updated pictures tomorrow
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Week 7. Flowering
4 years ago
60 cm
14 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Normal
23 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
23 cm
Nutrients 3
CANNA PK 13/14 - Canna
CANNA PK 13/14 1.5 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 0.5 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 3.5 mll
I bought pH down - A kind of melassis. I' yet to go test the pH 2 days after introducing it. Citric acid water made to 4.0 pH does work in pH reduction, however, it seems to be a temporary change in pH. I cant wait to see if the Melassis has worked in HOLDING the pH around 6. Citric acid seems to work in the moment, then a few days later you would check soil that was previously, for example, 6.7, reduced from 7+ pH. Using 4.0 pH Water., made with Citric. Within an hour I will know whether this Melassis has made a more permanent change. Wish me luck! Cant wait to upload some HQ pictures of the buds. As I've used a old picture simply as a placeholder -=
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Week 8. Flowering
4 years ago
60 cm
14 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Normal
23 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
23 cm
Nutrients 3
CANNA PK 13/14 - Canna
CANNA PK 13/14 1 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 0.5 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 3.5 mll
FILLER WEEKS FOR WHEN I HAVE NOT POSTED - Go to last week for up to date pictures!
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Week 9. Flowering
4 years ago
65 cm
14 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Normal
23 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
23 cm
Nutrients 3
CANNA PK 13/14 - Canna
CANNA PK 13/14 1 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 0.5 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 3.5 mll
PICTURE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF WEEK, WEEK 8 TO 11 UNDOCUMENTED =[
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Week 10. Flowering
4 years ago
67 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Normal
23 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
23 cm
Nutrients 3
CANNA PK 13/14 - Canna
CANNA PK 13/14 1 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 0.5 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 3.5 mll
PICTURE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF WEEK, WEEK 8 TO 11 UNDOCUMENTED =[
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Week 11. Flowering
4 years ago
67 cm
12 hrs
23 °C
6.5
Normal
21 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
30 cm
Nutrients 3
CANNA PK 13/14 - Canna
CANNA PK 13/14 1 mll
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 0.5 mll
CANNA Terra Vega - Canna
CANNA Terra Vega 1 mll
Here is where documentation has started again, apologies I stopped from week 7 to 11. Harvest for at least 3 plants will be happening soon. Defoliation has been utilised, some LST, but not much else! Life took a front seat and I simply could not give them the attention they needed. Flushing beginning... Any moment now, let me know However..... Enjoy the photo dump <3
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arcanegrow
arcanegrowstarted grow question 4 years ago
I have plants germ' at the same time but in different stages of life.Is it recommended to decrease to 10 hours Light (125w LED - IR/UV/Full Spectrum) JUST for the 4 plants that are ready, which'll weaken the younguns. Pics 1 & 2 show sort of my problem, there are younger 1s still
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Plant. Too short
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Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 4 years ago
Yeah I see no point in going to 10.. your diary says these are autos tho? They can take more than 12 hours of light. You got multiple strains going or what?
arcanegrow
arcanegrowstarted grow question 4 years ago
SHOULD I DECREASE LIGHT TO 10 HRS TO SIGNAL TO THE BUDS ITS SNIPPIN' TIME? I'm in no rush, only that the light setup is not ideal for younguns! Don't wanna bully them til they're frail and weak... and not dank.
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ChitownCannaChicaanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi, I would NOT advise this as you have quite a ways to go still! Looks like you have some great genetics and you don’t want to stress the plant out. Keep it at 12/12 until the end! I personally do a 24 hour dark person right before the chop, but never lowering the light cycle.
arcanegrow
arcanegrowstarted grow question 4 years ago
Sorry to spam questions! Is "Clonex" or whatever its called NEEDED to produce clones. I will do unbiased research, but you guys are the fuckin' bomb. I've done so much better thanks to y'all, truly! HMU I'll get a bud in the mail ;) [/joke]
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BostonGirlGrows
BostonGirlGrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
There’s a great community of people of here! Just like anywhere else there can be a few ‘off’ apples- but for the most part- we all want the same thing. Quality bud and great vibes. I hope someone can answer your question- I’m just learning how to work with photoperiods 🌱
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 4 years ago
Absolutely not.. most rooting products are basically a disinfectant with some hormones as well that can help promote clones rooting. I’ve used clonex, another gel, and nothing at all.. hardly notice any better success rate in using the gels like clonex. I recommend just using clean razor/instruments and you’ll be good. If you want further info on how I personally root clones hit me up in messages I’ll give ya a run down
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Week 12. Flowering
4 years ago
67 cm
12 hrs
23 °C
6.5
Normal
21 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
30 cm
Nutrients 1
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 2 mll
The discoloured images are zoomed in iomages through a magnifying glass. The main plants are very close to harvest =] I will begin flushing I think after 1 bout of Cannazym, with aim to harvest ~10 days after. I will tailor each to the plant's unique stage of life, as they're not all equal EDIT: Thank you to one of my commentors; Ezzjaygrows answered grow question 6 days ago Yeah I see no point in going to 10.. your diary says these are autos tho? They can take more than 12 hours of light. You got multiple strains going or what? I do have multiple strains, but they're all auto. Thank you for the point added to the list of things learned. I knew they could take more than 12h, but I was managing remotely, and I thought anything but 12-12 would require , say, 18h for 6 weeks, 16 for 2, 12hr for flush period (I'm aware had I given them more light it wouldnt have taken 12-13 weeks.) On the positive side, I saved a picture of a "best case" Creme Mandarine bud, and reasoned my way to "Yeah mine will probably be 35% as nice, in quality, yield etc." - Sure, these arent Cup winners, but FUCK ME, did they turn out so much better than i expected. Now why's that?; I humbled myself and lurked Creme Mandarine grows and learned and learned and learned. So thank you 'Ezzjaygrows', and thank you Growdiaries =] Don't worry. My 2nd will be diarie'd too, and this time, I wont be remote managing with literal remote CCTV and PH meters/Moisture meters in the CCTV shot. I lost 2 seeds thanks to the person i delegated minor observational management too, a young plant was let to dry out, harming it later on it life, AND he second guessed me constantly. Tera Vega / PK was missed because he thought he knew better.. Which he does... For outdoor.
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Week 13. Flowering
4 years ago
69 cm
14 hrs
25 °C
6.5
Normal
21 °C
20 °C
3 L
0 L
30 cm
Nutrients 1
CANNAZYM - Canna
CANNAZYM 2 mll
Harvestest 1 head, too soon! Went up with a mission to cut, and it warped my perceptions.. harvested too soon.Shown 2 pics. Main grow #2 begininning in 2 days! <3
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Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commentedweek 04 years ago
Wish you happy growing and good luck 🙌😊
homerjgangia
homerjgangiacommentedweek 04 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 44 years ago
Happy Growing @arcanegrow
spyder
spydercommentedweek 24 years ago
good luck with the grow.....enjoy.
GODSGIFT_2005_JM
GODSGIFT_2005_JMcommentedweek 24 years ago
Best wishes! 🌿 👁️ my gorilla if you like. Thanks!
Protector
Protectorcommentedweek 24 years ago
I like your humor man. U know what u doing. Will folow u.
SegaYGriega
SegaYGriegacommentedweek 24 years ago
Nice work, looks great !!! I wish you good results !!! See my reports and leave your opinion in the comments 😉
Red_Rockst4r
Red_Rockst4rcommentedweek 14 years ago
I wish you and your plants the best. 😍
Lacrima
Lacrimacommentedweek 04 years ago
Happy Growing ! 😊💪
Protector
Protectorcommentedweek 44 years ago
Hi. Your ph is too high and lamp is too low for 100w. Raise it to 50 cm. And dont give them PK. Its too early fot that.
arcanegrow
arcanegrowcommented4 years ago
@Protector, Hey bud (Hilarious accidental pun). I saw your comment and I immediately remedied the situation. Will upload pH measure made after I read this, though please note klit will not stay do low, simply. Because I measured it minutes after implementing it, and of course the pot is 7.1, my acidifier that day was 5*(edit on number, wrote 4) which is relatively low... No wait, high pH. Low acidifier. Had a bit of a brain-fart while writing that. Hehe. Soil pH picture being added & essentially now, just had to be added from. My PC, uploads fail due to "Low memory", which isnt true, but hey, I'm oldschool, I email myself things despite being a computer science student, supposed to be techy, up until last week I thought you really could SURF the Web. Boy did I feel a fool trying to explain why I wanted too return the board... 15 years later 😐 At least one dad-joke a Week, it's my addiction. But I'm fighting it.. Used to tell 20 a day, also that was when no one on earth liked me. But remember, "Correlation does not equal causation. .... I'm going to stop updating the page while baked. Bad jokes aside, thank you. I went into this first indoor grow, tuly trying to be humble, ready to admit my mistakes. I genuinely did not expect all the proactive help. Y"all are legends. And I'm undercover, squad cars are on their way to you as I speak. (obvious joke. - I hope) :) 💝
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 74 years ago
Gotta love that Cream Mandarine Auto®️.
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 04 years ago
Enjoy growth mate 🦄👍🍀
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedscommentedweek 04 years ago
Thank you very much for sharing a new diary with one of our strains. 😊 We hope you enjoy it. 😋 Sweet smokes, - Apolo
Kitties_and_Colas
Kitties_and_Colascommentedweek 134 years ago
Congrats on the harvest!! It looks great! ❤️🐱🌱💡
Hydro_Hiebs
Hydro_Hiebscommentedweek 134 years ago
Little early! Not too too bad ☺️
JERJERA
JERJERAcommentedweek 34 years ago
How wonderful I hope a good development 🌱👍 Go through my diary and leave your opinion .
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