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These were freebies from seedsupreme.com 3 northern lights feminized from 2013 and they both popped in 24hrs or less which blew my fn mind man.. one I had left in a screened area for a few days outside a and the other I did outside in better light and now the tent and 2 days with both and that one also I used the mykos already when it fell over and she's deff the model of the 2 so far. My healthiest plant as a matter if fact.. wierd