I don't think either of the girls really like my big LEDs too much. They both seem to get awfully light in my flower room, even the coco one which seemed good earlier. I've now gotten rid of some shitty autos relocated these to my veg chamber. Hopefully when they get bigger I can introduce them to the big sun again :)
As far as training goes I've pretty much fucked up both plants and neither will be yielding to their full potential. Let's they prove me wrong, but I really doubt it.