12/12 Squeeze Run

@amsterdammarijuanaseeds, - u know it. Took a minute to get to it but the time has come. Got a bunch more to follow as well👍. Thank you again to u folks👊

@Professor_Chaos, if it works for u, then it works for you bud👍. And yes - a ph of 6.2 (as a general rule) is the precise wheelhouse that you want most of your plants enjoying. Absolutely. that said, I’d still defer to my previous response to the original comment that ph is not an exact number. Especially in any hydro medium (which would include coco). Similarly, not every strain is going to uptake nutrients optimally at just a 6.2 measure. It may seem like it if you’ve got your system dialed in but, in reality - there are swings in ph level within the medium all the time that aren’t measured and too many additional factors (such as water quality and tds/ec) that act to counter initial calibration. That’s why I always tell people to worry about the range and not a specific number. Identifying the appropriate range based on your unique conditions is the trick - for which it sounds you’ve figured out. For me and my enviro and water - I can run at 5.7-6.5 with no discernible issues at any time. If ph and tds are on point in that range, then most of the issues that people diagnose as a ph problem is usually and actually some other problem entirely. Cheers

@TheBudWhisperer, I grow in coco and noticed that 6.2 seems to be the magical number for me. Especially when it comes to calcium uptake.. I run my ENTIRE grow at 6.1-6.3.. i even check runoff to make sure its still in that range.. if not, Ill water higher or lower to bring it back to 6.2-ish. I had a failed hydro attempt and pH seemed to be the issue.. i would set it at 5.5 or 5.8 and would see horrible leaf damage to the point I had to transplant into coco to finish the run. But when I keep it 6.0 to 6.2, they grew like they are supposed to in hydro. Fast! But thats just my 2 pecos on the situation. Enjoy the grow! Looks promising!

@WishiFishi, I’m not sure where you’ve gathered this info on ph levels but it “ranges” from somewhat misleading to outright false. PH levels in a solution will vary significantly over time and through other changes in the substrate. Measuring ph only provides a measure of the level at an exact point in time and this can differ in huge amounts over just 12hrs in a hydro medium. Trying to bench mark a constant ph of 6 is folly. Additionally, the suitable ph “range” for cannabis in a hydro medium is actually wider - closer to 5.5-6.5 with extreme tolerable swing ranges of 5-7 over shorter time periods. What you’re seeing in the leaf curl on the ATF is more than likely mechanical damage as a result of a poor crack on the seed casing at germination. Any other leaf issues less significant than that on any of these others would boil down to regular cycle veg. Growth. Not trying to be harsh here - just making the point that far too many people rely on digital PH pens to tell them exactly what ph levels are in a solution to the decimal. Truth is, you’re $30 ph pen is throwing out measures that are already likely off by as much as 0.5 at any given time. If not calibrated almost every usage - you will get very inaccurate readings from day to day. I haven’t used one of those in over 2 years.

@Dirty_Hippy, k - that’s good to know cuz the flower time was definitely extended from the norm. Smoke report is as expected too👌. Real strong, heady, good initial body buzz and pretty hard come down. I liken it to fb gorilla cookies somewhat in those respects. Solid all round - may use a bean for breeding. Maybe cross it with some sugar breath. That would be a match made in heaven.

@TheBudWhisperer, Holy wow those look amazing bro! Super happy to hear that the terps are strong. Kinda expected that flowering time or longer. Interested to hear the smoke report.

@Dirty_Hippy, dude - again, thanks for the beans. The chocolopez is now in the jar and on the cure. Obviously haven’t tried it yet and can already say that this one is worth a second run based on terps alone. Frost as thick as a snicker and a gassy smell that’s even persisted through drying. It’s gonna be an awesome smoke. Didn’t weigh but figure around 4oz on a 12/12 with a 3 week veg. Long flowering time at 10ish weeks but totally worth it👌👍👊

@Professor_Chaos,thanks for the comment and the look dude! As below on the other thread - the issue of topping and recovery is very much strain dependent. These 2 plants were treated exactly the same right up to the flip but you can tell that they both reacted differently due to differences in their entry to transition. The chocolopez took to topping and recovered without issue, probably giving itself an additional week of veg. At the same time. The Borderliner however, actually suffered from it and had to force its recovery while attempting to enter full flower at the same time. It is what it is and I can’t blame either plant for what it’s done under these conditions. Just happy that they’ll both pull more than an oz. Given where maturity is at right now. On a 12/12 from seed with a topping during transition - that’s a good outcome any day👌👍.

@Tropicannibis_Todd, 👌👊👊