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Germination
3 years ago
I'm not one to follow directions to the letter. I didn't soak seeds. I did paper towel method and as soon as I saw the head of the tap root barely peep out, into the soil they went. Literally about 6 hours after I placed them between two wet paper towels I saw the tiny tap root Ting 1 was placed in the Pot4Pot grow setup. Ting 2 was placed in small cup with plan to transplant after 1 week. I then knock some dirt over and down the drain TING 2 seed went. I ended up just getting another seed wet and placing it back where OG TING 2 lay. Crossing my fingers it will germinate alongside TING 1. Day 2, I see TING 1 pushing her little seed above the soil. I check on TING 2 and the tiny taproot is there so I water her and gently rearrange her so taproot facing down. I probably didn't bury them deep enough because they came up with the seed shell attached. Against what seems to be internet and Reddit advice, I gently plucked the seed husk off the cotyledon. Hey, we all think we want a natural childbirth until we are pushing a 9 pound baby out, 24 hours into labor, in pain, and begging for an epidural and for the doc to pull the baby out. So I see my removal of the shell husk a little like using forceps during labor. Hopefully I don't have brain damaged pot babies.
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Week 1. Vegetation
3 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
No Smell
75 %
24 °C
8 L
10.16 cm
So like I said. I don't follow directions to the T. Some said wait until 3 sets of true leaves come out to transplant, but I went ahead and just moved Ting 2 from plastic cup into 2 gallon cloth pot, using Fox Farm Ocean Forest. There's some leftover coco that I had from P4Ps blend that she is nestled in. I noticed her growth slowed down just a tad compared to Ting 1, but Ting 2 is still showing healthy growth with a great color and additional leaves still coming in. Remember, Ting 2 was sown directly into the medium without paper towel since OG Ting 2 went down the drain on accident. So I'm not concerned that she's just a bit smaller than Ting 2. They sit on the windowsill where they can get some tropical sun, but I do use supplemental lighting from a $35 4 head, 200 watt, LED grow light from Amazon. No high dollar lights over here. I'm just starting out and want to harness nature as much as possible for my indoor grow. I keep lights on an 18/6 schedule. I know some people do 24 hours, but IMO, plants need actual darkness to do their biological processes, and reach their full potential. For watering, I use a spray bottle to mist and keep top soil moist, and I water directly around the seedling. I'm impressed at how the Pot4Pot plant is quickly growing. For those unfamiliar with Pot4Pot it provides you with everything you need to grow autos. It came with coco, jiffy pellet, soil, diatomaceous stuff, and some growth hormone powder to mix into top soil. I picked the small 1/2 gallon kit. This plant already looks better than the one I tried to grow in December and officially died today. I am VERY curious to see how Pot4Pot grow will compare to some good old Ocean Forest. Also wanted to note I've placed the pots in front of a window that gets fed tradewinds that have touched lush mountains and ocean spray. Totally romanticized what is just a breezy window, but for real, it's a mountain breeze which could contribute to a great tasting bud.
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Grow Questions
NotoriousMSG
NotoriousMSGstarted grow question 3 years ago
I'm a noob and am worried I'll mess them up by LST. Any super simple, no fool LST techniques or hacks you can recommend?
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Techniques. LST
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
growdiaries.com/journal/how-to-do-low-stress-training-lst-on-cannabis-plants read up and watch videos on how to on youtube. I would not LST it till the plant is grown up a bit more. also autos don't like being transplanted to much or heavy feedings. I hope you have it in its forever home/pot and will feed it lightly. Good Luck!
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ChitownCannaChica
ChitownCannaChicaanswered grow question 3 years ago
You have a bit…. Lightly bend the main in a few weeks. Lst requires you to play it by what the plant gives you…. All about creating more bud sites and an even canopy
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 3 years ago
I lst my autos. I did a diary called Larry lemon og auto. I took a daily picture of grow from seed to finish. I focused on picture after lst that day. Go by plant size and not days old. Different conditions provide different rates of growth. I personally never top a auto. It's too stressful for them.
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NotoriousMSG
NotoriousMSGstarted grow question 3 years ago
Does she look wonky? I just ask because her sibling's leaves are flat whereas this one is a little folded.
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Plant. Other
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Outdoor_Spain
Outdoor_Spainanswered grow question 3 years ago
Dont worry, your babe its perfect
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
Looks fine. Over thinking it. Good to ask just in case anyway. This site is great for that. Best Of Luck!
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ChitownCannaChica
ChitownCannaChicaanswered grow question 3 years ago
It happens- keep it up and watch out for too much water on seedlings— can stunt them
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Week 2. Vegetation
3 years ago
7.62 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
No Smell
75 %
24 °C
8 L
10.16 cm
This week I started LST. Now don't you all jump down my throat saying it's too early etc. Ting 1. LST no problem. She is growing right along. Ting 2? Well my attempt to LST her revealed that she wasn't placed deep enough in the ground because she immediately fell over and wouldn't stay up even with contrasupports. So I ended up burying her deeper so she can get a good foothold into the soil. In retrospect, I should've just added more soil instead of disturbing her by moving her in her pot. I expect that this will set her back, but lesson learned eh? I'm going to just leave her alone and hold off on LSTing her until I'm 100% sure she's recovered from what basically turned an unexpected transplant. Between the two plants, Ting 2 is showing more growth from the nodes and she looks bushy compared to Ting 1. There's no point in me measuring height anymore since I'm LSTing. I'll just keep track of growth based on new nodes. Both plants are starting their 4th node. Ting 2 looks very stout and bushy where Ting 1 is growing all tall and pretty. 4/10. I don't know what day I'm on. Need to start dating so I can keep track. Ting2 is doing just fine so began LSTing her. I noticed Ting2 leaves are a darker green than the Pot4Pot Ting1. I haven't added any nutrients to soil. I just note it here to keep track of the difference in grow with Pot4Pot v. Fox Farm Ocean Forest. Could be due to genetics, could be soil nutrient differences.. as long as they both continue making progress I'm not worried about it It's been overcast and cloudy over the last week, but today the sun is out so the ladies are sun tanning on the windowsill to get some much needed Vitamin Sunshine. I'll check back soon.
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Week 3. Vegetation
3 years ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
No Smell
75 %
24 °C
8 L
10.16 cm
4/11. My LST attempt is I basically suck at it. I'm too fussy and keep wanting to adjust things and now Ting 1 looks droopy. But not underwater droopy, like "stop bending me every 2 hours" droopy. Put her on windowsill and she looks normal again. I also had placed her back in LST but placed tie lower on the branch so I don't disturb the shoots. Ting 2 is the shorter bushier sister. Taking well to the transplant and growing just fine. Until next time. 4/15. My babies are growing up. FIRST signs of puberty. Sniff. Ting 1 always looks so wilted. Can't figure out why. I'm going to stop LSTing her. Maybe she can't handle LST since she is only in a 1/2 gallon pot?
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NotoriousMSG
NotoriousMSGstarted grow question 3 years ago
Why she still looking so sad? I don't overwater. Pot 4 pot says no nutes needed with their grow kit. I stopped LST so she can recover. She's been on a sunny window. Any advice?
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Plant. Wilting
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 3 years ago
companies promise a lot... be wary of them without an overabundance of evidence from a different source(s). just to make sure irrigation habits are good. You should get a little runoff in soil to ensure you have fully saturated the substrate. i see you cut your soil with 50% perlite? that'll be great for the ffof. It'll still be full of nutes for 4-6 weeks or more. it's pretty hot soil. so, in general allow top 1" to dry, give or take -- even better to familiarize yourself with the weight of a 'dry' pot... it'll be a more consistent point, if you do. you'll need same volume to get that weight back up + a little runoff to be safe. with a 50% perlite mix, it'll be virtually impossible to overwater your plant. if you ran 3, maybe 4x as much water as necessary, it might cause a droop at some point, but even that should clear up quickly. if you try more frequent irrigaitons at 50% or 75% of original weight, just make sure to enact some preventative measures for pests.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 3 years ago
I have to agree that she looks just fine - all she's doing is straining for light! If you have to keep her in the window, I would do two things... I would set her on a large saucer with pebbles in it and fill that up with water to give her the humidity she needs... and then I would turn her a couple times a day so she isn't growing so sideways. If you start that now, turn her so she's leaning into the room... she'll soon start reaching back to the window for her light... once she is more upright, keep turning her around and around during the day so she stays upright! Good luck! She actually looks good, just needs to get her light!
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PEACEMAKER
PEACEMAKERanswered grow question 3 years ago
She's absolutely fine and healthy she's just slanted to that side because that's where the sun hits so that's where she's going to go just turn her around so back side can hit sun and she'll straighten up. Best of luck 👍
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Week 4. Flowering
3 years ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
No Smell
76 %
24 °C
8 L
10.16 cm
Nutrients 1
Ocean Forest Potting Soil - Fox Farm
Ocean Forest Potting Soil 100 mll
Wow weee. First signs of pre flowers came through last week with tiny wisps of stigmas. Ting 1 Pot4Pot grow still looks droopy compared to Ting 2 Fox Farm Ocean Forest grow. 4/20 lastnight I added diluted tiger bloom nutes to Ting 1 because she was looking so droopy and next morning she is already looking more healthy. I have to say the Ocean Forest grow is outperforming P4P by far!! *update* So lastnight after proudly posting all my pics and feeling proud of myself for making a good call to add nutes to Ting 1 and seeing her perk up, I turn to Ting2 and decide to adjust her LST ties by moving it up to the top cola... And wouldn't you know it, it ripped right off. The way it ripped I couldn't get a good enough area to tape it securely. So ok, don't make fun of me. I used some super glue to stick her back on with the support of masking tape. Hear me out. A long time ago I sliced my finger bad and didn't have good insurance so I super glued it shut. No harm to me and wound closed fine. Why not use same method to repair Ting 2? So yes, I glued her up, turned down lights and crossed my fingers I saved top cola. This morning, 4/21 it's clear that the repair didn't take so I pulled cola off and... yeah, I'll call it an accidental "topping". I gotta give it to the SD strain so far. Hopefully she will put up with my ham fisted methods and the f up is early enough where I can still get some nice buds. I'll post pics when I get over my embarrassment.
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Week 5. Flowering
3 years ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
No Smell
76 %
24 °C
8 L
10.16 cm
Nutrients 1
Ocean Forest Potting Soil - Fox Farm
Ocean Forest Potting Soil 100 mll
I'm in laid back mode. Letting them do their thing. Two stunners for a first grow I'm stoked so far. Sure, they are showing signs of slight nute burn so I'm just feeding water. Ting2 has recovered from her accidental topping and definitely has many more cola sites than Ting 1 who I stopped all LST.
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Week 6. Flowering
3 years ago
17.78 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
Weak
76 %
23 °C
8 L
15.24 cm
Nutrients 1
Ocean Forest Potting Soil - Fox Farm
Ocean Forest Potting Soil 100 mll
I had covid this week. Was all I could do for a while but turn lights off and on and water. The browning of the leaves, I'll post in the forum for advice on how to address. They are starting to give off a nice fragrance. I lifted lights higher so they can stretch a little. Had to start spraying neem oil too due to a red flying bug. Currently unidentified. 5/6 update. Decided to tie down one of Ting 2 branches to allow more light and air to reach below the canopy.
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Week 7. Flowering
3 years ago
17.78 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
Weak
76 %
23 °C
8 L
15.24 cm
Nutrients 1
Ocean Forest Potting Soil - Fox Farm
Ocean Forest Potting Soil 100 mll
No it's not white powdery mildew. I put diatomaceous earth on like an idiot. Now I read to not use it during flowering due to respiratory issues. I still got 4 weeks to go so am not worried. I hosed the F out of them. Taking more LST steps with Ting2 because she is so bushy and area below canopy could use more light and air. Feeding Tiger Bloom about 2x a week. Very light Feeding. Overall very happy with my progress so far.
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Week 8. Flowering
3 years ago
17.78 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
Weak
76 %
23 °C
8 L
15.24 cm
Nutrients 1
Ocean Forest Potting Soil - Fox Farm
Ocean Forest Potting Soil 100 mll
Seems like Fox Farm grow is stagnant. I took photo with measuring tape so I can track growth. Ting 1 is chugging along. Still feeding Tiger Bloom about 2x week. Started to add to Ting 2 as well to see if that invigorates it. 5/21. Call me the crazy cannibas lady. I took the girls on a field trip today so they could get some sun. Then like I schizo i decided to LST Ting 2 again and oops one of her branches developed a tear. Oh fuck. I'm a horrible pot Mom. I'm like that Loony Toon character. I'll love her and pet her and snap I break her. This is why I can't have nice things dammit. So far between Fox Farm vs Pot4Pot grow, P4P buds are definitely looking chunkier and has more crystals on it. Fox Farms buds are growing more slowly and has more bud sites since I did LST. I also accidentally topped it (oops). They are in different size containers but it looks like right now I'll get a bigger yield from the P4P if I picked today and that's growing in a 1/2 gallon. All in all, I'm a poor scientific method experimenter and should've had them both in same sized pots to really see how one performs over the other. Right now Ting 2 (Fox Farm grow) has tiny little buds and more numerous. I'm stopping the LST like a schizo to just let it be and hopefully she will reward me by filling out some.
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Week 9. Flowering
3 years ago
17.78 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
Weak
76 %
23 °C
8 L
15.24 cm
Nutrients 1
Ocean Forest Potting Soil - Fox Farm
Ocean Forest Potting Soil 100 mll
Poor Fox Farm grow. All the buds look like cabbage. Barely any trichomes compared to P4P grow. I blame my black thumb, widow kiss of too much meddling. I just bought a proper grow light so maybe that might help it along these last few weeks. P4P grow is super frosty. I was checking its bud for any abnormalities and found some gross black pupae looking thing encased in a sugar leaf. I nearly screamed, cussed ear wigs, puked a little in my mouth and proclaimed that even a gross bug won't stop me from savoring it. If I found that bug in my food? Forget it. But on my bud? Uhm 5 second ish rule? I started LST Ting 2 again. That's probably why it's all cabbage. Because I can't stop tinkering.
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Week 10. Flowering
3 years ago
17.78 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
Weak
76 %
23 °C
8 L
15.24 cm
Nutrients 1
Ocean Forest Potting Soil - Fox Farm
Ocean Forest Potting Soil 100 mll
I got the new light last Thursday and Ting 2 looks like a whole new plant. I ended up cutting off a bud that wasn't going to grow anymore and did a taste test. I must say, for an unripe bud showing very little trichomes, I was happy. Ting 1 is going to get the chop this weekend. Her leaves are starting to yellow and I noticed some trichomes turning amber. I'm giving Ting 2 probably a couple more weeks to fatten up.. Lesson learned. Light rulez
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