Hey there Seedlock , autos' stems "thicken up" quite quickly and it can be a bit difficult to train them and especially difficult for the training to pay off. You want to start as early as possible, something like 10 days , dont forget an anchor. if you leave it too long the bud sites get all stunted , that's the thing. you can tell by the appearance of 5 pointed leafs, try to do all that beforehand. Buy yourself some time by removing the leafs as they split or even beforehand.