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Double Dream Sun Grown ‘22

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2 years ago
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Outdoor
Room Type
Sucker-Branching
weeks 12
LST
weeks 12
2 Gallons of One-Time Feed Water
weeks 12, 15
Topping
weeks 3, 7, 12
Transplant 2.7 L
weeks 4
Removing sucker branches
weeks 5
“Pinching Suckers”
weeks 6
Repotted to 4 Gallon
weeks 7
Watching for suckers
weeks 7
Transplant to 400 Gallon Fabric Pot
weeks 9
Soil
Grow medium
Bio Char
Grow medium
Bat and Seabird Guano, Kelp Meal, Boogie Black, Earthworm Castings, Bone Meal, Neem Cake, Azomite, Humates, Iron Sulfate, Green Sand, Oyster Shells, Dolomite Lime, Diatomaceous Earth
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
Mushroom Compost
Grow medium
Peat Moss
Grow medium
303 L
Pot Size
2
Week 2. Vegetation
3 years ago
15.24 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
5.8
250 PPM
25 %
18 °C
22 °C
18 °C
0 L
Nutrients 6
Fulvex - Botanicare
Fulvex 0.66 mll
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.132 mll
Plant Enzymes - Humboldts Secret
Plant Enzymes 0.396 mll
So I didn’t know about Grow Diaries when I started this, and do I am jumping in first day of second week. I know for a fact that she has been slowly picking up some vegetative growth over the past week. Before that I would say it was between 1-2 weeks to get her rooted out. She has been inside the tent still, but will be transplanted outside in a fabric pot with a whopping 100 Gallons of custom made soil. I am still new and learning. I started mother from seed and will be using her to make more seeds(rev-fem). It is possible I may be obsessed 😍. Either way it is also my very first successful clone, which I literally took ONE cutting at about 10” long off the main trunk towards the bottom, then I took off an additional 4”. I guess I was confident? Even though last year, or year before that when I tried a lot of cuttings from a completely different plant, they all failed miserably. I knew why. I just needed to be way more on top of my game with the cuttings. Anyways, this one here means a lot to me because it’s my first clone! Let’s hope I don’t love ❤️ (water) it to death ☠️!!! lol
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Week 3. Vegetation
3 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
5.8
250 PPM
25 %
18 °C
22 °C
18 °C
0 L
Nutrients 6
Fulvex - Botanicare
Fulvex 0.66 mll
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.132 mll
Plant Enzymes - Humboldts Secret
Plant Enzymes 0.396 mll
She is growing FAST! Well I guess that’s to be expected as she is the most mature plant that I have right now. Morning of day 19 and she has received her first topping! It feels like I cut her off the mother plant just the other day! How she has grown so big already!? Happy Growing! 💪🌳
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Week 4. Vegetation
3 years ago
30.48 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.5
434 PPM
25 %
21 °C
24 °C
18 °C
0 L
Nutrients 7
Epsom Salt 0.651 mll
Bush Doctor Flowers Kiss - Fox Farm
Bush Doctor Flowers Kiss 0.066 mll
RAW Amino Acids - NPK Industries
RAW Amino Acids 0.078 mll
I’m a couple days behind on my posting of this girl. But here she is! Growing strong and healthy. I am getting ready to transplant her into a bigger pot soon enough. Then hopefully I will be able to get a picture of a stellar root system. On another note, the field peas in the “400” are coming along, slowly but surely! I plan to transplant into the “400” in approximately 2 months (8weeks). Day 26, I’ve got a larger pot (2.7 L) with my fancy soil, lots of greensand, I checked the pH and it seems stable at 6. I did add a lot of lime. Maybe the lime takes time to raise the pH too? Anyhow, I have potassium silicate to help raise pH if needed. I hope this isn’t a mistake putting her into that. In fact I’m going to add more lime to the top half and then the potassium silicate to water in. Fingers crossed for stable, beautiful, warm and sunny weather!! Happy Growing 💪🌳
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Transplant 2.7 L
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Week 5. Vegetation
3 years ago
34.29 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6
434 PPM
25 %
21 °C
24 °C
18 °C
0 L
Nutrients 7
Epsom Salt 0.651 mll
Bush Doctor Flowers Kiss - Fox Farm
Bush Doctor Flowers Kiss 0.066 mll
RAW Amino Acids - NPK Industries
RAW Amino Acids 0.078 mll
I’m getting behind, the feed is not accurate. But yeah small signs of potassium deficiency and possibly phosphorus deficiency? I think she just needs time to get established in her new pot of super soil. Will mostly just feed plain water.
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Removing sucker branches
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Week 6. Vegetation
3 years ago
36.83 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.8
434 PPM
25 %
21 °C
24 °C
18 °C
2 L
Nutrients 4
Fulvex - Botanicare
Fulvex 0.264 mll
Liquid Karma - Botanicare
Liquid Karma 1.585 mll
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.132 mll
You cannot quote me for my accuracy on any information I have entered. I simply do not have enough available time to document all the nuances. I will if I can but right now I’m keeping up on the pics. Basically, I transplanted her into what I think is something like 2.3 L basic black plastic pot for now. It’s super soil so I need to only add CalMag and microbe stuff when necessary, otherwise basic water, B1 and other stuff maybe. But I feel I am more likely to run into issues pushing her with too much in her water while in this new super soil mix. I just want her to be established in the outdoors with her new pot. I want to see healthy stable growth, so for now, I’m going really easy on what’s in the water. And yes I see the potash def and the nutrient intensity in the leaf tips. Probably just a CalMag water. I’ll see if the ppm from my 8 pH tap water with the CalMag works in my favor, with the CalMag I add it will drop the pH to about 7. So I might do a little bit RO water that starts at pH 7, maybe start like 25% with RO, see if I get around 6.2 pH or so… I definitely gotta keep the ppm down. So I’ll wait and see if that potash deficiency dissipates as her roots get established. Because there is a lot of potassium in the soil. Maybe just a little fulvic acid with the CalMag. I have this bottle of liquid Humates as well. However I am hesitant to use it because when I bought the bottle, it smelt fine. Now it has a strong rotten-egg smell. So yeah I’ll experiment with that on some random weeds or something, I don’t know. Just not my ladies! Been pinching those suckers. I don’t want all of this internal branch development blocking the airflow. This is hopefully going to become gigantic inside a 400 gallon fabric pot with fancy seasoned soil and an array of nitrogen fixers and a calvary of earthworms! I must have added about 10 Big ones. Maybe 5 littler ones, but not too tiny. After looking at the pH chart, for the potash I might as well keep the pH around 7! My solution might be as simple as a pH shift
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Week 7. Vegetation
3 years ago
41.91 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
8.5
150 PPM
25 %
21 °C
24 °C
16 °C
15 L
Nutrients 3
Fulvex - Botanicare
Fulvex 0.793 mll
Liquid Karma - Botanicare
Liquid Karma 0.793 mll
CalMag OAC - True Plant Science (TPS)
CalMag OAC 0.528 mll
Well, I suppose it was my ambition that influenced all the soil amendments that I added. Just a little too much it turns out. So I figured the only solution to prevent the plant from sitting in all that strong stuff was to transplant into a bigger pot. Her roots have developed fast and she had created a new root ball with the 2.3 L pot. So I ended up going with the big 4 gallon. I hope this will correct the problem. I also added charcoal to the new media to help balance out the concentrations. So for now I will just be watering with plain water or maybe a CalMag water here or there
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Repotted to 4 Gallon
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Week 8. Vegetation
3 years ago
45.72 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
8.5
150 PPM
16 %
21 °C
24 °C
16 °C
15 L
Nutrients 3
Fulvex - Botanicare
Fulvex 0.793 mll
Liquid Karma - Botanicare
Liquid Karma 0.793 mll
CalMag OAC - True Plant Science (TPS)
CalMag OAC 0.528 mll
Alright, I literally repotted her into a bigger setup last week, and the pH was 7! Only two days later, she is showing signs of lockout, i check the soil pH again, only this time while scratching my head. The meter reads 3.5!!!!!!!! What!?! I did some reading and I will get a few screenshots of some stuff explaining how and why different types of soil can drop in pH if not properly limed! On top of that, the dolomite lime that I do have is going to take time to restore the pH in the soil. That didn’t stop me from taking her out of that 3.5 sh*t in a heartbeat! Problem was I didn’t have any other soil to use! But I did have that dolomite lime! I added LOTS of the stuff, and did what I now realize was a false reading, as I checked the newly limed soil mix for a pH of 7.5!! Alas I thought! Much better. Put her back in the mix and another two days later her symptoms only got much worse. So I throw in the pH meter, doubtfully hoping for reassurance, and I see it’s 3.5! Again! Why is it back!!! I even watered in with potassium silicate and a water pH of 8.5! Still I didn’t understand, but I was close. Only problem was by the time this plant fixes the acidity in the soil, this plant will be dead! ☠️ 💀 So, I acquired some hydrated lime! This stuff I can dissolve into water! Do I did 50% more than it said. 1.5 TBSP / gallon. And Immediately I am noticing results! A big sigh of relief as I can feel the burning release! So we’re hanging in there, persevering and staying positive! I’ve got a feeling we are moving in a good direction! I can already see new healthy growth!
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Week 9. Vegetation
3 years ago
48.26 cm
18 hrs
34 °C
8.5
150 PPM
12 %
18 °C
26 °C
9 °C
303 L
Even though it says 80 Gallon pot, it’s really 400, it just glitches out when I enter 400 and converts to say only 80. I know she looks bad! I know. She has only been managing a nutrient lockout with horribly low pH for far too long! The Hydrated Lime has indeed fixed the pH! Resulting in my next inbound set of problems. The original soil from the second 2.3L pot she was in was too strong! She needs to get her roots out into the larger pot, but that only gives her so much more space. Plus in that larger black plastic pot, the hot dry sun at 7,000 ft in elevation, really heats up those pots! When it’s 98F later, that sounds like torture! Maybe it was enough to balance out the more concentrated stuff towards the inside of the root mass. But I don’t want her roots to stop there! The time is now for her to go into the 400!!! The soil is 6.5 pH through and through. The peas are about to bloom! She has just avoided lockout and is picking up momentum! The 400 gives her a huge diameter for her roots! Something I sincerely hope her genetics will take advantage of. The soil is rich and alive! The temps in 400 will be so much better! Now I must prepare for my Arch Nemesis! The Butterfly!!!!!! Lol But seriously. They find my plants attractive, and decide to serve my plants as food for their offspring!!!! Not okay! Last year their success rate on my plants was a fat 0!! But they did some serious damage! I am prepared this year!! I will watch with vigilance for any butterflies around my plants specifically. I will spray my plants down regularly with diatomaceous earth! Not too much obviously! I know less is more when spraying that stuff! No mother wants to give her children food with razor blades in it! And as always there is always next year! I can’t let a phase of mice and men get the better of me. However!!… that’s what I said LAST YEAR!!!! Lol. This year IS next year! Anyways she looks rough right now on Day 58 but I tell yah what, she has very recently made a dramatic turnaround for the better!! …I hope! Happy Growing! StrongTrees💪🌳
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Transplant to 400 Gallon Fabric Pot
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Week 10. Vegetation
3 years ago
50.8 cm
18 hrs
33 °C
8.5
150 PPM
7 %
18 °C
26 °C
10 °C
303 L
**400 Gallon** fabric pot (Not 80 Gal) Yes that’s right, no nutrients in the water. The soil is rich. So right now we are just getting her established with her new fixers. (Field Peas)
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Week 11. Vegetation
3 years ago
58.42 cm
15 hrs
27 °C
8.5
150 PPM
25 %
18 °C
26 °C
8 °C
303 L
Some extra rainy weather this week, last several days the sun never came out. Colder damp nights and finally slightly lower VPD! The reason I’m still concerned about lockout is because I corrected the root zone pH, before transplanting to the big 400, with multiple applications of hydrated lime over multiple days. I’m not concerned, but just aware of the potential as the pH slowly rises with the lime. They say 1-2 weeks at least, for hydrated lime. Either way, I did notice immediate results almost overnight after first application. The burning stopped spreading at a dramatic pace, as well her leaf expression suggested she had a little more energy as well as growth speeding back up. Only to find about 5 days later a new subtle progression with areas in the root zone where the pH meter would either dive to about 4, or become unstable and erratic. Now I believe we are thoroughly back to a range of 6.5-7 sweet.
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Week 12. Vegetation
3 years ago
60.96 cm
15 hrs
27 °C
6
1018 PPM
52 %
18 °C
24 °C
12 °C
303 L
Nutrients 11
Unsulfured Blackstrap Molasses 5.859 mll
RAW Phosphorus - NPK Industries
RAW Phosphorus 0.156 mll
RAW Silica - NPK Industries
RAW Silica 0.156 mll
Well finally by day 80 the heavy rain is over and we are looking at afternoon showers, but sunny hot and humid until then. Well, relatively humid. About to finally get in there and tying some branches and picking little sucker branches that I don’t want. Branches appear as suckers to me when they’re more than likely located lower on the plant or at the interior in a way where it would grow with less light or grow inside the plant and congest the airflow, again with less light. I fed her a 2 Gallon Heavy Feeder mix. It will be watered in with tsp water that is 156 PPM @ pH of 8.5. Normally ALL waterings are done with an incredible amount of water from the garden hose that is from a well. I intend to feed with soil amendments and top dressings, however localized feeds or things like worm castings tea is coming up. I also foliar fed her one evening with phosphates, and the fulvex which is basically magnesium and fulvic acid with a yucca wetting agent. I want to help her to spread those roots! I know it sounds like a lot of molasses. But I’ve never had issues with large doses in these situations outdoors. The plants and microbes go bonkers for the stuff! Also that feed water went in strong but as it was watered in with the regular water, it diluted the tds quite a bit. Literally the following day, I am noticing what looks like more than preflowers. Is she really starting to flower an entire month early?! Last week er so, we had those 4 days of really cold, dark, rainy weather, that came after some nasty hot and super dry weather. Multiple plants have begun to flower on me! I suppose there is no problem getting an early start with things. But not this! I don’t want to go back and forth! She can be in vegetative stage and grow bigger and spread her roots. Grow and prepare for flowering stage. Then go into flowering stage and STAY in flowering, 100%. Not something crazy like: stop veg(preparing for flower) and just flower out with what was developed, then 2 weeks later realize it was too early and go back to Veg, only to jump right back into flower! I don’t want some kinda of chaotic misdirection of energy, for most likely some weird results. But we shall see. All I can say is, if she is going to flower, then flower hard! Don’t turn back.
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LoganatorDudestarted grow question 3 years ago
I was expecting about 30 days left to Veg. I have grown here for several years and flowering starts at the first week of August. It’s July 2nd and she looks like she’s flowering!! We had 4 days of dark rainy weather last week. Anything I can do to re-encourage a vegetative state?
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Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
Once the plant "decides" it is going to flower, that's it, especially outdoors. Flowering all depends on the individual genetics of that particular plant. Look at it another way, you will have some early buds!
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Week 13. Flowering
3 years ago
60.96 cm
15 hrs
27 °C
8
No Smell
156 PPM
43 %
18 °C
24 °C
12 °C
303 L
Well I’m not sure when day one truly occurred. All I know is last day of previous week (Day 84) I noticed the beginning of flowers. This is mildly disappointing because I had different plans. Normally, growing outdoors in this location, flowering doesn’t start until, at least, the first week in August. I was planning for another 30 some days of Veg, I was going to do thing for her to prepare her for flowering transition. Training and more growth. Looks like I will be getting an earlier start next year in this 400 just in case. I just have to treat my growing season like taking a boat down a river. It’s not up to me where the river goes, but it is up to me on how I go down the river. The weather can be hot and sunny or cold and dark, dry or wet. There may be a hail storm, or maybe a blight of some sort. I don’t need to have any plants, but I do. The thing I need to remind myself is what I have right now. And what can I do now to secure my prospects. I am blessed to have so many plants with excellent light year round. The sun shines down from both horizons like the ocean, and the weather is always sunny! Some years, the growing season couldn’t be more perfect, and sometimes not so much. At the end of the day, all I can say, is that I have been learning a lot this year. Learning about stuff I would have never thought about. It will be nice to have harvests staggered a bit.
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Week 14. Flowering
3 years ago
62.23 cm
15 hrs
28 °C
8
No Smell
156 PPM
43 %
18 °C
24 °C
12 °C
303 L
Yeah it’s not anything like I had planned, but like I said last week, there is always next year. I’m just giving her molasses here and there. I don’t know the pH or ppm of the feed water. It’s just molasses and my 8 pH well water. Then back to just plain water if I’m not feeding. There are obviously a lot of soil amendments that I’m leaning on. I suppose the picture of her trunk isn’t that impressive because it lacks a reference of scale. But those are some big roots on the top there.
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Week 15. Flowering
3 years ago
64.77 cm
15 hrs
31 °C
8
No Smell
156 PPM
34 %
18 °C
21 °C
12 °C
303 L
Nutrients 3
RAW Potassium - NPK Industries
RAW Potassium 0.156 mll
SUPERthrive  - Superthrive
SUPERthrive 0.211 mll
CalMag OAC - True Plant Science (TPS)
CalMag OAC 0.793 mll
Well I gave her some CalMag and potassium. She’s doing alright.
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Week 26. Harvest
2 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Double Dream - Growers Choice Seeds
Spent 99 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
9/10
Rated
500 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
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Firstly, the video of the popcorn bud from the mother plant, is showing what’s known as xylem sap from a process known as guttation. I never new that until this. Additionally, I am sorry to have missed out on so much documentation. I can talk forever about my plants so this will be short and to the point. Fast vigorous growth. Very resilient and hardy strain able to shrug of cold damp conditions, and freezing nights down to 32 Fahrenheit. The immune system seemed to be very strong. Never did I find any pathogens or even pests! A few but those little ghost spiders really helped out. During harvest, a thorough inspection resulting in surprisingly clean product! Finishing with large “airy” buds with fat bracts covered in trichomes. A rich musky cheese smell that surprisingly tastes of berries! I suppose I’m getting ahead of myself. But I was able to finish cure and smoke test the mom before harvesting the clone. Finally: this fast 50-60 day pheno will continue popping new bracts up to 90 days!!!! Or at least the mother in the tent did. Also, the dry weight is an approximation as I’m not finished with trim.
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