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Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 4
Main-Lining
weeks 4, 6
Defoliation
weeks 4, 6
LST
weeks 5-6
Soil
Grow medium
2 L
Pot Size
0.1 L
Watering
Germination Method
Paper Towel
Method used by growers
Statistics by method
Avg. success - 93%
Method popularity - 40%
Painkiller XL
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Royal Queen Seeds - 91%
Painkiller XL - 100%
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Teh_Saccade Teh_Saccade
3 years ago
I had these for my brother's birthday, but even though he wanted them he vanished. I think that he is not well, as I heard he was in hospital before discharging himself and disappearing... So I will grow them for him, for when he decides to show himself again :) (Which I hope will be soon, as I am worried for him...) To start this one off, I use a peat-free compost disc from Growit and then pop this into a fibre cup that is filled with regular potting soil. Without any cover, it goes into a box and then is placed in the boiler cupboard for some warmth because it is quite cold outside still. Now - to try to be patient and wait for it to pop up! :D
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Grow Questions
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 3 years ago
This plant has developed whorled phyllotaxy on only one side of the initial manifold divide. The other side is regular, opposite. I'm curious as to what may be the reason as to why this happened only on the "dominant" (faster growing) side of the split? 2nd one this season...
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 3 years ago
I think what you might be seeing is simply a genetic mutation... not common but certainly not unheard of! Good luck!
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XperencdGmanXG
XperencdGmanXGcommentedweek 63 years ago
have you smoked this strain yet? Wondering how it tastes and how potent it is
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommented3 years ago
@XperencdGmanXG, Hey bud! nope, not tried it, but I'm having a time trying to keep it inside a small footprint! It's starting to really want to grow straight outwards! Give it another several months and I'll be able to tell you :P I don't think it can be much more than 12% THC (at least I hope not), but that's pretty strong for a CBD strain!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommentedweek 53 years ago
The answer is: Mutations in the R2R3-MYB117 transcription factor elicit trifoliate leaves and initiate axillary meristems... The trifoliate mutation is caused by a truncated MYB117 transcription factor that alters cellular homeostasis and fortifies γ-aminobutyric acid, folate, and carotenoids. That's some fancy big wards you gots thar mistah! So, basically - the plant is a mutant!!! If the plant wasn't put under such stress as being topped like this, then this mutation most likely would have never shown itself..! The mutation was expressing along the STEM/MAIN of the plant - the other stem/main was a BRANCH until it was forced to be a main. The mutation forced the cells along that line to go a little hinky due to some chemical irregularities - but I think that surgical intervention has done the job and corrected the growth pattern. Since all branches have assumed "main" status, the whorl has resolved to opposite :D It's also true that the hormonal chaos that follows such a shift in growth as this This correction is likely a result of the same mutilation as the thing that caused the issue in the first place! The apical bud being snipped off, and its non-mutant expression branches becoming the new apical mains..! In addition to this, I believe that I also by chance have cut off the apical bud that carried this expression at the second split, and the new mains are from both branches. Fingers crossed it doesn't appear again. It is therefore not able to continue to express the mutation along that main, as it no longer exists and the whole thing has undergone a hormonal rewiring to grow in a very unexpected way! It's a recessive mutation - as trifoliate phenotypes are segregated independently as monogenic recessive mutations. The mutation is still there, but it is being hidden by a more dominant gene expression (ie, "normal")! This is useful information! RQS' entire line could be hiding this mutation, and they'd not know it until every plant was carrying it! Interestingly enough, the mutation appears to be more prevalent in non-phototropic plants (autotrophs!) than phototropic plants! (additionally, gene MYB117 appears to have some bearing on flowering time: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33779489/ ) It would be interesting to find out just how many of RQS' plants in this strain have this characteristic, and if it is similarly expressed or able to be reproduced through sharp force trauma to the main stem!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommentedweek 43 years ago
I don't accept "coincidence" or "curious occourance" as a valid answer..! The potency is not in question! What is, is how and why one side is trifoliate, but not the other, when it would be expected that both sides might be..?
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommentedweek 43 years ago
Looking back, I can see that there was some massive asymmetry going on with this guy... "the bat", because it was so lop-sided... I've one in the ground outside that is also whorled, but this isn't so much of an issue as it is growing untrained. Reading up on the mutation - it does say that most of these turn out to be male. This is a shame, as I was very much looking forward to Painkiller XL, however - there are worse plants to have as a male to pollinate the others, huh? Shame it has the trifoliate going on, or it'd be a good candidate. // This isn't a clone..!