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Topping
weeks 4
Main-Lining
weeks 4, 6
Defoliation
weeks 4, 6
LST
weeks 5-6
Soil
Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 3
Vegetation
12
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Height
20 hrs
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Teh_Saccade Teh_Saccade
3 years ago
Going under the light at night is really helping..! PainkillerXL has been doing great! :D It's developing much faster than any other plant, bar the autos, so I think that he is a good one for the local environment and it likes this soil and water very much (at least for now..!). I'm thinking that at this rate, it will be ok to split it next week or so... Being outside in the breeze, the stems are becoming a little stronger with the agitation. They've been watered once or twice only this week. I think that the roots will be ok. When the roots start to break through the fibre cups, they will be potted into some square, plastic pots. The potting soil is a mix: - The bottom layer is some dug from the garden, with a handful of pebbles - A layer of regular potting soil, a few handfuls, is spread over this - Then a layer of houseplant potting mix, which is good at retaining moisture to seep into the other soil, and also contains some extra nutrients similar to that provided by leaf mulch and other things. - Handfuls are then mixed on top of this, so as to create striations of soil and mulch - Near the top, a handful of blood, bone and fish is mixed in to the layers - Before the final layers, some tree & shrub powder is mixed in as well. This contains some friendly fungus mix to help out :) This recreates the same type of soil that is in the garden, as each year the leaves and flowers mulch and then top-soil is washed over it, plus anything else that dies and decomposes to enrich the soil. Potting into the square plastic pots is useful not only for cramming them into a smaller space under the lights, but the lips are useful for tying stuff down, as well as poking holes in the sides in order to secure any wires or strings. I use these for starting off bonsai plants, before moving them into very shallow ceramic pots once they are a few years old. Painkiller is a little bit of a mutant, I think... It's developing faster on one side than the other, and the leaves are a bit odd - but so long as it's ok, it can grow however it wants! Painkiller is thriving, which makes me feel very happy :D
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Grow Questions
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 3 years ago
This plant has developed whorled phyllotaxy on only one side of the initial manifold divide. The other side is regular, opposite. I'm curious as to what may be the reason as to why this happened only on the "dominant" (faster growing) side of the split? 2nd one this season...
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GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
I think what you might be seeing is simply a genetic mutation... not common but certainly not unheard of! Good luck!
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XperencdGmanXG
XperencdGmanXGweek 6
have you smoked this strain yet? Wondering how it tastes and how potent it is
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccade
@XperencdGmanXG, Hey bud! nope, not tried it, but I'm having a time trying to keep it inside a small footprint! It's starting to really want to grow straight outwards! Give it another several months and I'll be able to tell you :P I don't think it can be much more than 12% THC (at least I hope not), but that's pretty strong for a CBD strain!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadeweek 5
The answer is: Mutations in the R2R3-MYB117 transcription factor elicit trifoliate leaves and initiate axillary meristems... The trifoliate mutation is caused by a truncated MYB117 transcription factor that alters cellular homeostasis and fortifies γ-aminobutyric acid, folate, and carotenoids. That's some fancy big wards you gots thar mistah! So, basically - the plant is a mutant!!! If the plant wasn't put under such stress as being topped like this, then this mutation most likely would have never shown itself..! The mutation was expressing along the STEM/MAIN of the plant - the other stem/main was a BRANCH until it was forced to be a main. The mutation forced the cells along that line to go a little hinky due to some chemical irregularities - but I think that surgical intervention has done the job and corrected the growth pattern. Since all branches have assumed "main" status, the whorl has resolved to opposite :D It's also true that the hormonal chaos that follows such a shift in growth as this This correction is likely a result of the same mutilation as the thing that caused the issue in the first place! The apical bud being snipped off, and its non-mutant expression branches becoming the new apical mains..! In addition to this, I believe that I also by chance have cut off the apical bud that carried this expression at the second split, and the new mains are from both branches. Fingers crossed it doesn't appear again. It is therefore not able to continue to express the mutation along that main, as it no longer exists and the whole thing has undergone a hormonal rewiring to grow in a very unexpected way! It's a recessive mutation - as trifoliate phenotypes are segregated independently as monogenic recessive mutations. The mutation is still there, but it is being hidden by a more dominant gene expression (ie, "normal")! This is useful information! RQS' entire line could be hiding this mutation, and they'd not know it until every plant was carrying it! Interestingly enough, the mutation appears to be more prevalent in non-phototropic plants (autotrophs!) than phototropic plants! (additionally, gene MYB117 appears to have some bearing on flowering time: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33779489/ ) It would be interesting to find out just how many of RQS' plants in this strain have this characteristic, and if it is similarly expressed or able to be reproduced through sharp force trauma to the main stem!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadeweek 4
I don't accept "coincidence" or "curious occourance" as a valid answer..! The potency is not in question! What is, is how and why one side is trifoliate, but not the other, when it would be expected that both sides might be..?
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadeweek 4
Looking back, I can see that there was some massive asymmetry going on with this guy... "the bat", because it was so lop-sided... I've one in the ground outside that is also whorled, but this isn't so much of an issue as it is growing untrained. Reading up on the mutation - it does say that most of these turn out to be male. This is a shame, as I was very much looking forward to Painkiller XL, however - there are worse plants to have as a male to pollinate the others, huh? Shame it has the trifoliate going on, or it'd be a good candidate. // This isn't a clone..!