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weeks 13
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weeks 5-7
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Peat/Spagnum moss
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Vermiculite
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Paper Towel
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Amnesia Haze Auto
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Barney's Farm - 92%
Amnesia Haze Auto - 83%
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SirSalami SirSalami
2 years ago
Hello. Long ago, I was gifted a tent, light, and fans by a very good friend and I've finally decided to put his generosity to use. This is my first successful germination and as you can imagine, I'm excited. Unfortunately, however, I've since lost touch with my friend and his potential advice. So, with some research and (hopefully) reasonable expectations, I'm turning to you, this site/community, and anyone who has the time, for help with advice and motivation. However, though this is my first success at germination, this is my second attempt. The first attempt was a freebie from North Atlantic Seed Co. (Gorilla Glue Auto) that was soaked in a shot glass (evaporated tap water) placed upon the house water heater (~75F) in darkness for 24 hours. After that day, I noticed a tiny split between the shell's tip and placed it between a well-moistened (not dripping) folded paper towel, secured in a ziplock bag. Checking daily and keeping the towel moist for two weeks or so, it never seemed to grow a taproot. I then attempted to simply plant the seed (1cm deep) directly into the prepared soil, keeping it moist for another 2 weeks without seeing change. Desperate, I excavated and soaked the seed in 1% H2O2 solution for 48 hours. I again observed no changes and declared the seed dead, possibly from mishandling, drowning in too much moisture or lack of O2 in the bag, or maybe it was just a bad seed. Sadness and demotivation ensued, but then a month after starting, the 2nd germination attempt would prove to be more successful. Disheartened but optimistic, my Amnesia Haze Auto seed (Barney's Farm also from NACO) was soaked, again in a clean shot glass on top of the water heater in darkness, but this time in a 1% H202 solution first. After observing no change to the seed after 18 hours, it was placed in between damp folded paper towels between two plates, rather than a ziplock bag as previously, being very careful about excess moisture. Concerningly though, I returned to a dry towel every 4-6 hours which was misted with 3-5 sprays until damp. After about 48 hours of warmth and occasional misting without any visible changes to the seed, I was growing very concerned about the repeated dehydration of the paper towel and seed. I decided to once again place the freshly dampened towels into a ziplock bag as was the first seed, hoping to retain moisture in the paper for a longer time. The ziplock was also moved ever so slightly closer to the heat source, maybe raising temps by a degree or two. This seemed to help, thankfully, as within 48 hours, the seed popped during the night, growing a ~1.5cm taproot. And there was much rejoicing. The seedling was immediately buried in a shallow hole (about 1cm deep) of isolated seed starter mix (a large cup's worth in the center of the 2gal pot) with the taproot facing sideways rather than vertically (due to clumsiness). It was then sprinkled very lightly with a bit more seed starter mix to cover. The soil was, in hindsight, unfortunately dry when planting, so it was 'generously' misted maybe 35-45 times all over. Then, a dome was placed over the burial site where 2 CFLs (24w Day-light, 14w Soft-white) were hung 5-6 inches above without a timer. Checking occasionally, the soil around the seedling was misted when noticeably dry with ~10-15 sprays, every 8-12 hours or so, resulting in damp/moist topsoil but never soaked. The sprout broke ground within 2 days. At the end of the 2nd day of above-ground growth, I found a spare 24w soft-white CFL which replaced the 14w, hence the change in the lighting of the photos (from yellow/green to blue/white on day 2). Later, on day 3 or 4, the lighting was connected to a timer to shut off between 12 pm-6 pm (18on/6off). On the 4-5th day, in an effort to normalize the watering, the dome was removed and watering was increased/rescheduled to ~25-30 sprays at lights-on every 24 hours, mostly directed in a circle a few inches from the seedling. The temperature has remained between 68-76F with an RH of ~50% since the start. I guess that's about it for now. Overall, it seems like she's healthy to my very untrained eye. I'll try and be diligent with updates. If you are reading this and have any concerns/suggestions/comments/questions, please send them as I'm very eager to learn more. Thank you! -- Concerns -- Planned to use a 3-gallon fabric pot, but was sent 2-gallon by Amazon. I've read about some successes using a 2-gallon, so I'm hoping for the best. Initially, the seedling had a drooping cotyledon and its spine was crooked. Both straightened after a couple of days, however. I would've liked to have added perlite to the soil mix. Hoping to learn more about the possibility to add more to the existing mix before doing anything. I've not done any PH testing and am hoping the soil mix's composition is balanced. Will surely be keeping this in mind as I watch things develop. I'm quite tempted to water more as the soil is quite dry before every misting and I've never watered to the point of runoff, yet. Sprout seems healthy nonetheless so I'll continue to fight the urge to over-water. Not quite sure when to use the 100w Spider Farmer lights, and how far they should be from plant. Currently, my guess is to replace the current CFLs with the more powerful LEDs when the plant starts veg (first real leaves), at a distance of about 18-20 inches. Maybe I'll consider returning the CFLs strategically during flowering. -- Seed -- Barney's Farm Autoflowering Amnesia Haze from North Atlantic Seed Co. https://northatlanticseed.com/product/new-amnesia-haze-auto/ -- Soil/Medium -- 50% Hoffman's Seed Starter (mostly peat/vermiculite) 50% Hoffman's Organic Soil (mostly peat/soil, ~10-15% perlite/sand, some fertilizer) 1 TBS Jobe's Organic Raised Bed Fertilizer (4/4/4), mixed in About a Solo cup's worth of Seed Starter isolated in the center of the pot to cradle seedling -- Lighting (18/6 - Off 12pm-6pm) -- Two cheap CFLs (24w, 1 daylight, 1 soft white), hung about 5-6 inches from the seedling Spider Farmer 100w LED to be used later, perhaps when first full leaves sprout -- Enclosure/Environment -- Grow Tent - 36"x20"x63" 2-gallon fabric pot Runoff tray Pot risers Humidity dome (Bottom 1/2 of two-liter bottle with a few holes) Spray Bottle & Water evaporation jug Heating pad (Pet-Reptile Style) Temp/Humidity gauge (Maintaining ~68F-76F, ~50%RH) Digital On/Off Timer, Extension cords Two fans (6") (Not yet used) Grow tent fan with carbon filter (Not yet used)
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Grow Questions
SirSalami
SirSalamistarted grow question 2 years ago
First-timer here with a new diary. If you have the time, please follow or just check out what I have so far. I'm excited to learn more about my plant, how to record/report progress, and growing in general. Any advice/comments/concerns will be very much appreciated. Thank you!
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Other. General questions
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 2 years ago
"I would've liked to have added perlite to the soil mix. Hoping to learn more about the possibility to add more to the existing mix before doing anything." Defintely.. perlite or similar should be 50% of volume. With coco, you can drop to 30% because coco holds less water per volume. A little less is no big deal, too. Best for roots and growth but will increase rate of irrigation. 2gallon pot may need more frequent irrigation at end, possibly daily, but doable. Better in a soilless context though.. toward end you may have to treat your soil like a soilless substrate and provide everything each irrigation for best results. pH in soil is usually easier to handle. it's good to pH balance anything you add, but many don't bother. They are probably lucky with some good tap water or RO system. 6.5-6.8 .. just keep it under 7, but even 7-7.5 won't be the end of the world in most cases. Still, keep it under 7 to be safe. Watering - change your perspective. this requires a little hindsight but after 1 cycle you can calculate it and mix up what you need with limited waste. Don't give a specific volume you choose. you give what it needs when it needs it, and you use the weight of the pot to determine when to irrigate. Allow top 1" to dry, feel weight of pot and irrigate until you get mnimal runoff to ensure the entire thing is wet. Dry pockets are no good over time. Repeat that process and be familiar with low-weight level... you'll find the volume on next irrigation that you can plan for per pot... then mix appropriate volumes based on that when fertilizing. You can irrigate more frequently (ie before "1" deep" dries), but always make sure some dryback occurs. if perpetually too wet it invites all sorts of problems. This is where the 50% perlite would pay off. With potentially big plants in small-ish pots, you'll know when you can get away with an early irrigation rather than let it sit overnight or something. As of day 6 that cfl seems to be doing well-enough. You can tell be internode distance -- length between growth nodes. If it stretches too much, you need more light. If it remains too compact, you need less light. Early on, you'll start low and ramp up as you observe the plant... While it won't be exactly the same for every plant, it'll be in the same ballpark. Take notes until it's memorized or comfortable observing/reacting. if far enough away and dimmed properly, can use the 100w sf light anytime you want. no matter what, you adjust to whet the plant dictates. This way you can really gas it when they ask for it and avoid damaging any that may take a bit more time to handle it.
SirSalami
SirSalamistarted grow question 2 years ago
Just a first-timer looking for guidance during week 3-4 as she seems a bit small. If you have the time, please check out my diary. I'm eager to learn, have been taking daily pictures, and have been describing a few concerns there. I'll close this question tomorrow. Thank you!!!
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Plant. Too short
Feeding. Deficiences
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
Cannabis plants DO NOT take water "from the air", this is what the roots are for. Roots grow as soon as the seed sprouts, so if your plant is from a seed and alive, it has roots. Only clones don't have roots, at first. Misting clones and/or keeping them in high humidity prevents the leaves from drying out, but again, they DO NOT take water into the leaves from the air! Transpiration only works one way - water in through the roots, up the stem and OUT through the leaves........it does not work in reverse. Your lack of growth is probably down to inadequate lighting, - if you are only using 24 watt veg lights, this is barely enough to sustain life. Low temps and/or incorrect soil conditions will also slow growth. A pH of 7.8 is definitely a problem, your pH in soil should be between 6.2 and 6.8. A pH of 7.8 will prevent the availability of nearly all the vital elements in the soil that your plant needs to access for growth. I am also not a fan of dry amenmants this early in a grow, they need a lot of time (4-6 weeks) to break down and become bio-available to your plant and I much prefer to use liquid nutrients that are instantly accessible by your plant. The pellet type nutrients also need constant moist conditions to break down and become activated and one thing cannabis does not like, is being constantly moist. The fertilizer you are using might be fine for tomatoes (4/4/4) but you should really invest in some cannabis specific, liquid fertilizers. Unfortunately, since you are growing autos and they are already approaching 4 weeks of age, flowering won't be far off............so whether to continue or not is up to you...........but don't expect a bumper harvest. Next time, start with a balanced soil mix in the correct pH range (with less peat), use your LEDs from day one and invest in some proper cannabis nutrients and your grow should be much more successful and rewarding. I would also suggest growing feminized photoperiod plants next time, they are far more forgiving and YOU can determine when they flower, once YOU are satisfied with their size, health and vigor. Autos actually require a lot a skill to get the best results from and are not the best choice for new growers........despite what the marketing hype might be suggesting.............unfortunately. Hope this helps, Organoman.
SirSalami
SirSalamistarted grow question 2 years ago
Spotted white fuzz in my soil mix after balancing ph and adding nutes to the medium. Temps 72-81F, 40-45 humidity. Fan has mostly been pointed indirectly at side of pot/plant, rather than above. Should I be acting on this now? If so, what might be the best course of action? Thx!
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Other. Mold
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 2 years ago
It looks normal to me. You should be running a wet to dry cycle in soil. You may be watering too soon. If you continue it may lead to root rot. Just let it get dry not overly though.
SirSalami
SirSalamistarted grow question 2 years ago
Thx for taking a look! I know the obvious answer is going to be that I'm overwatering. However, it's been 3 days, the topsoil was super-dry and pot felt empty/very light. Sadly, this seems to be a routine when fed, with her perking up again in a day. Diary has details. Thanks!
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Leaves. Wilting
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 years ago
If its dropping after watering its a sign its getting overwatered, or maybe it got under watered and is taking time to bounce back. One easy way to tell this is that the pressure in the leaf stems will remain flaccid when under watered and ridged when over watered while keeping the same limp looking leaves for both under and over watered. It is a bit dark and could use less Nitrogen but if its already in the mix just avoid adding extra or flush it out. a flush would prob not hurt at this point, might save you from other proglems down the line. The [better grow 20-14-13] is quite high in N and that's causing a lot of your toxicity issues. The Bloom booster at 11-35-15 is also not an ideal ratio. but is better then the first. You will want to look into something aorund 4-8-8 or 5-10-11 or 2-7-7 ... something with smaller N and equal or slightly larger K to P ratio. Can always mix and match some feeds to hit your desired target. Best Of Luck!
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StinkyBudz
StinkyBudzweek 0
Good luck with your amnesia haze autos. I’m growing 4 and about to give one the chop in a couple days. Check out my grow for any tips or mistakes I made that you can avoid. Like the nitrogen deficiency coming in about the 9th week. Good luck. Hope your plant produces some StinkyBudz
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcanweek 6
Beautiful plant..i see u picked a beautyπŸ†
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcan
@SirSalami,..it only gets better brother.. Again a real beauty u got πŸ‘πŸ†πŸ†
SirSalami
SirSalami
@JamMAKEcan, Thank you! Means a lot to me, as a first-time grower πŸ€œπŸ€›
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustweek 5
Best of luck with the new hobby 🌱🌿
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrust
@SirSalami, Thanks
SirSalami
SirSalami
@Inganjawetrust, Thanks, bud! Having fun so far. I'm checking out your diaries. Wow! Very inspirational!
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 14
Great diary, fantastic work , like when growers use this site for real diary with information on daily basis to help on future runsπŸ‘
SirSalami
SirSalami
@WhiteEdge, Thank you so much! Means a lot coming from someone with diaries like yours. Amazing!
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
HAPPYWEEDS
HAPPYWEEDSweek 9
My first time was on Amnesia too 🧠πŸ’₯ Looking so good friend wish you the best of lucks on your adventure πŸ––πŸ‘½
HAPPYWEEDS
HAPPYWEEDS
@SirSalami, thank you sir 🎩 Currently my favorite journal is "JUST WANT YOUR VENOM" ☠️ because of the format and the conversations we have in the comments. But if you ask for the strain I would choose Royal Skywalker or Hulkberry from RQS 🦁
SirSalami
SirSalami
@HappyWeeds, Thank you!! You've got some great diaries. Do you have a favorite?
KingSalomonsWeed
KingSalomonsWeedweek 7
Ja, JamMAKEcan hat recht. Sieht super aus.
KingSalomonsWeed
KingSalomonsWeed
@SirSalami,Hallo zu Anfang war ich so. Aber dann hatte ich den furchtbarsten grow, mit den allerbesten Knospen und den riesigsten Ertrag!? Da wurde mir bewusst wie unglaublich Robust diese Pflanze sein kann. Ich hatte LΓΆcher im gesprungenem Stamm. Ich hole ihn fΓΌr dich online. Im Endeffekt kannst du nix machen. Die geben nicht klein bei.
SirSalami
SirSalami
@KingSalomonsWeed, You both are too kind! Sometimes I worry about how short and bushy she is. Sometimes I worry about how much she's drooping. Sometimes I worry I'm tucking the wrong leaves or tucking too often. I also worry about water, nutrients, and all of the other stuff involved, etc, etc. It's all very new to me and it's too easy to find too much information. So that I can learn the basics for the future, I'm trying to force myself to see what an easy-going plant looks like without doing too much to her (topping, lollipopping, defoliation, etc.). Your comments really help my confidence while I go down this path. Thank you!!
WearyCommoner057
WearyCommoner057week 8
Looking good!
SirSalami
SirSalami
@WearyCommoner057, Thanks, bud!
JamMAKEcan
JamMAKEcanweek 8
Hey friend may i say. During flower stage u dont want it to be too dry between feeding. 80% dry is good .. I've heardπŸ€”πŸ’¨
DEEGREEN
DEEGREENweek 3
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UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 14
Hey mate, I have been following this grow for a few weeks as a sort of indicator grow for my first auto grow. Your diary is the first one I have found where the growth rate for the first 3 weeks was the same. So I am watching your grow as a guide to see what I might end up with. Given all the problems my babies had in the first few weeks they are way behind many grows I have seen. In week 4 though everything seemed to take off - in my week 4 my plant is way ahead of yours (on same days, you put 7 days in germination I put those in week 1, so your week 3 is my week 4). I have to say I am really encouraged by your grow, I thought I had messed my autos up but what your grow demonstrates quite clearly is that autoflowering cannabis flowering schedule IS affected by environmental factors. These plants can be up to 3 weeks ahead of schedule or up to 7 behind - and that largely depends on how ideal their environment is. Take this auto you're growing, It is meant to have a harvest time of 65-70 days from seed. Here your plants are at day 98!!!! What more evidence is necessary? I just wanted to thank you for doing this diary really, because it has helped me overcome some pessimism and have some hope for my grow (mistakes and all). One more thing though: I would have harvested your plants last week when they started showing amber trichs, this is not a criticism I'm just saying your harvest window really opened a couple of weeks ago. I would recommend not leaving these buds on the plant past the end of this week - trichs change really quick at this stage and I would not be surprised if you're already at 10-15% amber trichs today. I think you're at peak THC right now, from here on out the head high reduces and the couchlock feeling increases. (IMO)
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@SirSalami, I like the detail and ramblings, it's what I do myself haha. If you have a separate drying space crack on, I have to use the grow tent as I only have the one at the mo! I can certainly attest that buds develop better in the light! I will check out your other grow. All the best!
SirSalami
SirSalami
@UnorthadoxDude, No need for thanks. You're welcome! I'm sincerely glad you've found some use for my bad pics and ramblings. If anything, my plant is proof that even a cheap, know-nothing amateur can have some level of success, with a little patience. And excitingly, my second grow is seemingly at least a week 'faster' than this one. To your point, I am considering a partial harvest but either way, I agree that I should likely do it soon. But honestly, almost all of the amber trichs I'm seeing are on the sugar leaves. Buds need just a bit more ripening, I think. Also, the reason I'm considering a partial harvest is that there is quite a bit of larf/popcorn in the interior as she was never pruned. I'll try to take some specific pics of that in case anyone is curious. Some research I've done leads me to think that gradually taking down the big colas might give the popcorn some time to mature with more light.
LokalGrenz
LokalGrenzweek 14
Looks Great!!
SirSalami
SirSalami
Thanks bud!
MANIIAKSINDUBS
MANIIAKSINDUBSweek 14
Banging diary bro girls are looking frosty as fuck!! Doing a banging job!!
SirSalami
SirSalami
Thank you, thank you! πŸ€œπŸ€›
Jobbie
Jobbieweek 9
I love watching the buds start to fill out, just so exciting dreaming of smoking them πŸ˜πŸ€©πŸ’œ
Jobbie
Jobbie
@SirSalami, Mostly all my dry trim which will include some bits of stem, sugar leaves and any popcorn buds that are just too small. I always have brownies in the freezer and oil in the cupboard. Fan leaves I put into soups or salads, they are quite nice. πŸ€€πŸ’š
SirSalami
SirSalami
@Jobbie, Sounds lovely! What do you use for your oils? Buds, kief, trim? πŸ€”
Jobbie
Jobbie
@SirSalami, Last night we were trying some new combination oil in baking for the first time and we smoked some of the latest grow, today I'm looking at my flowering plants dreaming of the harvest. 😍😍 Sweet torture!
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MagicoVerde
MagicoVerdeweek 13
Looking good bro πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘πŸ‘Œ
SirSalami
SirSalami
@MagicoVerde, Kind words, thank you! 🀜πŸ’₯πŸ€›
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 14
Oh 50g!! Not far off 2oz! Nice my friend, I am glad you got a bit more than you hoped for! :D
Jobbie
Jobbieweek 11
Nutrients can slow down as it is getting late in bloom, but you are on the home stretch, I'm excited for you! βœŠπŸ’š
Jobbie
Jobbie
@SirSalami, Sorry for the late reply, holiday season is weird for me. Keep an eye on the trichomes: mostly cloudy no Amber will give the smoke a more energetic feel, full cloudy with the start of a few Amber is ideal, lots of Amber will be quite sleepy. I can normally see with my phone if I take a photo and zoom in on the picture.
SirSalami
SirSalami
Thanks bud! I'm obviously excited as well. Was going to feed her nutes once or twice more, then only water for the remainder. I'm guessing maybe 2 weeks until she's ready to chop?
Jobbie
Jobbieweek 14
Good job with the Diary and congrats on the harvest, keep on growing brother!
SirSalami
SirSalami
Thank you!! I can't believe I've never grown before. So rewarding!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 14
Hey man congrats and I hope you enjoyed the harvest process. I reckon dry and cured you'll end up with about 2-3oz. Decent for one plant on a first grow!
SirSalami
SirSalami
Thank you!! If it ends up being more than an oz, I'll have exceeded my initial expectations. Hope you're right! 🀞