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Waited till they got a little root bound on purpose. They will finish in they 10 gallon bags. Wish I had made them instead of buying. These bags sagged bad wich is why there duck taped. Again I get better results when I rotate plants. My soil is roughly %20 home compost manure base with tons of worms %20 topsoil %20 coco and %40 perilite. Watering 1 and 1 with 1 tap maxi grow cal mag plus and ph with silica. And 1 with just rain water. Lights are up %70. Was getting well over 1” of growth per day before trans. Still training out not up.