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DFWmd DFWmd
6 months ago
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 (Day 78, 28 days into flower) - When I was filling out stats, above, I noticed the previous week's plant height was 35 inches and this week's it was 28 inches. I probably measured from the floor last week and from the soil this week. From floor to top of soil is about 15 inches, so last week the height was ~20 inches from soil. (Alternatively, this week, plant height was 43 inches from floor. Either way, difference of ~8 inches.) Also, 2.87 EC is the total of the baseline tap water of 0.414 plus the added nutrients. The nutrient schedule recommends 2.1 (not counting tap water), so the EC is ~0.36 higher than goal. (Last week's EC was ~0.19 higher than goal.) ----- Thursday, November 16, 2023 (Day 79, 29 days into flower) - Continuing to fertigate and wait for flowers to develop/ripen. ----- Friday, November 17, 2023 (Day 80, 30 days into flower) - I took some pictures of the plants from the side. Maybe I'll ask a grow question asking for suggestions regarding whether to defoliate or not. My main concern if canopy is too dense, then there is an increased risk of mold/fungus. ----- Saturday, November 18, 2023 (Day 81, 31 days into flower) - https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/community/photons_corner/to-defoliate-or-not-to-defoliate/ <-- This post by Dr. Photon seems to do a really good job of explaining why getting rid of leaves in hopes of increasing yield doesn't make sense. He does seem to support pruning lower branches and for the health of the plant (e.g., preventing fungus.) I posted a grow question and answers included a range from 'leave it as-is at this point to not stress the plant' to 'carefully prune to thin out some to help prevent fungus.' I'm still considering what to do but I'll likely try to thin out just a bit because I'd rather have lower yield than fungus ruining the whole crop. Nebula Haze has done a comparison of defoliation vs as-is and results from her perspective supported defoliation? https://www.growweedeasy.com/summary-of-cannabis-defoliation-side-by-side-experiment Pruning advice is often to be able to see light through the canopy; I like this counterargument from a comment to Dr. Photon's post: "If it isn't dark under your canopy, you are letting photons get away." Made new batch of nutrient solution: 1. 24 gallons tap water (EC 0.5) 2. 60 mL Armor Si (then wait at least an hour) 3. 121 grams Jack's Nutrients 15-5-20 and 24 grams Epsom salt (I ended up using 242 grams and 50 grams to get close enough to the target EC...) 4. 120 mL General Hydroponics Diamond Nectar. (I used 60 or maybe even 30 mL because I want to ration out the supply to last the rest of the grow without buying more.) 5. 3/4 teaspoon Yucca ..... Check and adjust EC to goal of 2.1 + tap = 2.6. Actual result: _2.7_ ..... Adjust pH to 5.8-6.2. Actual result: _5.8_ 6. 60 mL H2O2 ----- Sunday, November 19, 2023 (Day 82, 32 days into flower) - Still haven't pruned. I still think I should but am hesitant. I have noticed that the sides of the tent smush some of the flower; the air flow sucks the walls of the tent inward some. I ordered some plant yo-yos that should get here tomorrow. I'll start out by pulling some of the edge flowers inward. ----- Monday, November 20, 2023 (Day 83, 33 days into flower) - I've also been reading about Grove Bags as an alternative to mason jars. I'm going to try them; I haven't read anything bad about the product, just some frustration about shipping cost that isn't as bad as it had been. I just placed an order for four 1/4-pound bags with child-resistant zip-locks and two 1/2-ounce bags that have zip-locks made to open and close frequently. They recommend drying the plants after harvest like typical but using a moisture meter to ensure the stems of the plants are at 10-12% moisture content before putting in the bags to cure. At that point, you could heat-seal the end of the bag if you wanted or just use their zip-locks. No need to burp or put in Boveda humidity packs or anything. I ordered an ~$13 moisture meter, too, from Amazon. ----- Tuesday, November 21, 2023 (Day 84, 34 days into flower) - Yo-Yo's delivered; I hung a few up and pulled some of the colas that seemed smushed by the tent walls toward the center some. I also got the moisture meter. It has settings for four categories of wood, paper, and wall; I'm not sure which to use for cannabis. Grove Bags's website says to put on setting of softest wood (not talking specifically about the meter model I bought, though.) I might reach out to Grove Bag to see what they say. I'm still a few weeks away from harvest, though. My hesitation regarding pruning remains and I still haven't. I'm worried about fungus but pruning just seems to be arbitrary; it's hard to know how much to trim and from where. I don't want to unduly stress the plant... ----- END OF 12TH WEEK FROM SEED
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Grow Questions
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 8 months ago
Finishing up the topping portion of mainlining. P2 to be Nebula-Haze style and P3 to be Nugbuckets style. I'll be trimming growth tips other than from the 8 cola sites on each. Still keep un-shaded fan leaves below those levels? A lot online shows all lower fan leaves trimmed
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thedoe
thedoeanswered grow question 8 months ago
if the 8 growth shoots are ready to ride solo, you could remove the leaves if you cant tuck them. by that I mean they are developed and are already working on their 2nd node or so, if theyre too small it makes no sense. check out my grow; I had the same idea for 8 tops! same guide mine is probably not as bushy but youll get the idea. especially if youre not limited on time then it will recover regardless. just faster if they are ready to grow without need of those big fanleaves.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
I'm unsure about trimming/defoliation at this point: What's the goal for just before switching to 12/12? I've read to veg until your height is 1/2 to 1/3 the final height supported by the setup. I seem to have plenty of room still. How much do I trim under the canopy?
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mcflow
mcflowanswered grow question 7 months ago
if you're just before the switch to the flowering stage (12/12), focus on the following specifics: Undercanopy Trimming: Trim the lower branches and leaves that won't receive much light in the flowering stage. This directs energy to the top canopy. Remove Large Fan Leaves: Take out any large fan leaves that are shading potential bud sites in the lower and inner parts of the plant. Maintain Airflow: Ensure good airflow by removing excess foliage in the undercanopy. This helps prevent humidity-related issues. Avoid Over-Pruning: Be cautious not to over-prune, as you still want the plant to have enough foliage for photosynthesis and energy production. Top Canopy Focus: Concentrate on opening up the top canopy to allow light penetration and airflow for the main bud sites. Remember, the idea is to strike a balance between removing excess foliage and maintaining enough leaves for the plant's overall health. Keep an eye on how the plant responds and adjust accordingly.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
It's been 15 days since flipping from veg to 12/12. Am I done training to keep the canopy flat? The goal is basically to optimize flower development at this point, right? Tucking tall branches at this point would be counterproductive, right? (Unless too close to lights?)
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 7 months ago
People tend to let their plants go a bit more during the stretch but it's largely dependent on how much headroom you have with your lights. Like you mentioned, you're still gonna want to address areas that are outpacing the rest and growing into your light's "hotzone". Maybe not tucking branches, but super cropping is handy to level out colas.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There are a few colas that are much higher than the rest. Do I supercrop those? Just squeeze the stem and flop them over to canopy height? That makes me nervous...
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Plant. Too tall
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 6 months ago
If you are nervous about super-cropping then just tie it down...
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
Advice seems to be to tuck fan leaves so bud sites get more light. But don't plants work by light first going to leaves which send energy to flowers? A plant with leaves in shade and bud sites in light would do WORSE than v/v, right?
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Stickyone
Stickyoneanswered grow question 6 months ago
Tucking fan leaves in cannabis cultivation is a technique used to optimize light distribution and penetration within the canopy. While it may seem counterintuitive at first, tucking or removing some fan leaves can be beneficial for several reasons: Light Distribution: By tucking or removing fan leaves that are shading bud sites, you can ensure that more light reaches the lower parts of the plant where the potential bud sites are. This can help improve the overall yield and quality of your harvest. Air Circulation: Tucking leaves can also improve airflow within the canopy, reducing the risk of mold and mildew development, as well as promoting better overall plant health. Energy Allocation: Cannabis plants do require light for photosynthesis, which takes place primarily in the leaves. However, once energy is produced through photosynthesis, it is transported to different parts of the plant, including the flowers (buds). Tucking leaves doesn't stop the photosynthesis process; it redirects the energy flow to the areas that need it most, which are the developing buds. Pruning Strategy: Tucking fan leaves is often part of a broader pruning strategy that also includes selectively removing some leaves to improve light and airflow. This can help optimize the balance between energy production in the leaves and energy allocation to the buds. In summary, tucking fan leaves can help ensure that both leaves and bud sites receive an appropriate amount of light and energy. It's about creating a balance that maximizes the overall health and yield of your cannabis plants. However, it's essential to be mindful of not overpruning or removing too many leaves, as this can stress the plant. The specific approach may also depend on the strain and individual plant's needs, so it's a good practice to monitor your plants and adjust your techniques as necessary during the different growth stages.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There is still almost no smell from the flowers. Is that normal at this point? Today is 22 days into flower and the strain guide says flowering time is 9-12 weeks (63-84 days.)
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Don't be afraid to rub your fingers in and around buds n see if there is any smell. Also sometimes you scratch the stem slightly and you will get a hint of the profile, kinda like a scratch n sniff.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 5 months ago
How many more weeks before harvest? ILGM website says flowering is 9-12 weeks and I'm just about done with 7 weeks. I don't have great close-up photos of trichomes but when I look at them through a loupe I don't see any amber. Pistils now majority orange.
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 5 months ago
So grower cards are just there to give you an idea of how long your plants will generally take to flower. That being said, every Pheno is different and will finish at a different time depending on certain variables. Environment, nutrients etc. I would give her another week and keep checking your trichomes until you get your plant where you want her. Don't sacrifice your smoke! 30% amber is usually a good time to harvest.
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great grow friend!! Keep on strong πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
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good mainlighting job buddy πŸ§‘β€πŸŒΎ
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Great haul πŸ’ͺ happy harvest bro πŸ‘
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@DFWmd, this is good the Blue Dreams strain apparently has some therapeutic qualities I hope she does the trick for you πŸ™
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@@Mr_toetastic, Thanks so much! Way better than I'd hoped!
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great grow friend!! Keep on strong πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
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Monster stuff man! Keep doing your thing. They look gorgeous.
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@MeesterG, I'm so excited! Thanks for the support!
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Looking awesome man lovely job πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ”₯🌿
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Very nice workπŸβ€οΈπŸ’š
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@Lonelygrass, thanks so much!
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She looks so healty, good luck buddy ☘️
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@Lemonhazelover, thanks for your support!