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On my next diary i have included week one in the germination week, whereas in this diary i did not, but day/number is posted alongside each picture. This is the first time I've germinated with a peat pellet/ jiffy pot, I soaked it in shallow water for 30 mins before placing the seed directly from a fresh seed pack into the moist (hehe) pellet. There was a pre indented hole which i planted the seed in and removed some loose soil from the pellet to loosely cover it. I usually germinate via a paper towel in a dark place and then directly into soil once popped. I preferred this method to the latter, I can leave the pellet in the dark and not have to water it again for 3 days, and by 5 days it should be above ground, ready to be planted into her final pot. Thanks for reading.
Plagaron light mix is a fertilised substrate so shouldn't need a feed until week 2. A little information about this grow while nothing is really happening. This Is a budget setup, my ultimate goal like all of us, is to one day fully supply ourselves without external purchasing. I will list all the items I have, and how much they cost so you can fully understand some of the costs. I am a beginner, my first two grows failed. I achieved growing a plant but very little bud. But we've researched, and researched some more so advice is super appreciated, as you'll see further in I believe we may have burned a set of leaves. We are using plagaron light mix which was around £20 for 50l, enough for two grows with 7gal pots. We have a £75 grow light, a £5 small fan which we will be purchasing another of. £2.50 garden ties and for 5 fabric pots it was £5. We have ph down £10, calmag £10, plagaron terra grow £15 and plagaron terra bloom £15. A ph tester £5. Silver thermal foil £2.50 for two. Around 150 pounds. Extremely cheap. Not including the seeds. I'm just trying to be honest, transparent and help someone else in need of statistics.
So far from all we've researched we are on track, soon I believe we light burn two of our leaves. We aren't used to the intensity of the lights, at the back end of the previous week she stretched an ungodly amount and actually fell over. I didn't capture an image of this, I was too ashamed. My ten pound seed. Flopped over healthy top leaves, touching the soil. Luckily the roots had only slightly breached the peat pellet. I dug it up, planted it deeper and this allowed it to stand again. Luckily she survived the stress, may have even strengthened her! As you can see this week she bounced back and continued growing phew. Also 2l of ph balanced water with 1ml of calmag every 5 days or so, or when the pot is completely dry down to a full fingers deep. (To the knuckle, baby.) I've found with each water she shoots up this way.
The first photos are from mid week two. The burnt leaves (we believe, advice welcome) we raised the light, and no other fresh growth are affected so we assume we've rectified the problem by doing this.
We are at 15 days old. My wife decided she wanted to lst this is all experimental to us from the first tie down at around 5pm, to the adjustment at 1am she had already turned upright again and needed another tightening. We did one anchor line from one side of the pot at the base of the plant, and directly adjacent we put the second line used for bending in the opposite direction to the anchor line. It is amazing to see her change so drastically. My lil bonsai already taking shape. Is she looking healthy at the moment? I always worry. She's like my baby. My wife is less so bothered and stresses often to leave her be (the plant, sometimes her too!lol)
We started administering grow nutrients now, because the soil can quickly be depleted of nutrients from a healthy plant with good root uptake. We first mix calmag, then nutes followed by ph down (miniscule amounts) to achieve around 6.3-6.5. My grow schedule recommends 5ml of the grow, but I only use 2.5ml or around half to avoid nute burn. Calmag 1ml all notes per 2l each watering around 5 days apart.
Day 17, update I have raised the lights further to try and promote some stretching so I can soon in the near future try achieve a 45degree angle tie down to expose the node at the back which isn't receiving any light. So far she's responded well to lst and is upright again within a few hours meaning multiple tie downs a days. Usually 2. But so far she's achieving the shape I am looking for.
Day 18, nothing much happened today, she stretched a little more so I staked her down a little further. She's looking good so far. She's dry on the top layer bit about half a fingers deep She's still moist (lol) so I think she may be watered tomorrow depending on how dry and light the pot feels. Fan directly blowing on her is also drying her out quicker now, that or She's drinking more.
She's getting bushier and thicker stems each day. Lst seems to be working, the lower nodes are stretching more than if I'd left her to christmas tree. Hopefully my lst trickery at such a young age has convinced her she has multiple top colas. We'll see. Stay tuned!
Day 19 lst update,
Her canopy seems to be evening out now, and she's definitely getting bushy. Being able to see the plant each day is helping remind me she is growing via the photos, all be it slowly 😅 hopefully she's on track! Still fiddling with light heights. Currently dimmed to 50%
She has been watered today. 2L of ph corrected water with 2ml of calmag and 2.5ml of plagron terra grow. I'm seeing some paleness on an odd few leaves so upped them calmag to try keep her happy.
She looks healthy. I'm constantly comparing my grow to those I see on YouTube week 3, although I burned some leaves she's looking bushy, green and there's multiple stretches of node sites from the early lst. Her main stem is very thick and tree like which is exciting. Still watering at 2.5ml of plagron terra grow as there's no white pistils yet (phew). And upped her calmag to 2ml per 2l last feed as I saw some slight paleness on leaves and wanted to nip any problems in the bud (literally.) Continually leaf tucking throughout the day but she's under quite a strong breeze aswell. Staked her down in some places and re tied her today as I removed it for a night. Anchor line was left in whilst I did this. She's still being watered every 4-5 days as that's when she typically dries out. Let me know if she's on track! Notice anything that needs my attention? Any advice is appreciated. I pray to you weed gods on here to show me the way to the grow light!
Day 23 advice update;
We are having some rusting spots appear on some leaves. Any ideas what could be causing this? When she is watered (frequency mentioned above) she is receiving 2.5ml of plagron terra grow nutrients in 2l of water. When she is watered there is no run off or little to none. Please advise!!
Apart from this I am astonished. She's very bushy, I can count at least 6 potential top sites which means I was at least successful with lst. Hoping all the preparation will have her well set up for stretching into the flower phase. Unsure if I saw one white pistil today or not on the main cola branch. Will update in the next few days with the ol' written word and will be still updating daily via pictures.
Day 24 update. Watered today with 2l of water and 1ml of calmag and low stress trained again since her main node was higher than the rest. No nutes apart from calmag on this feed. I predict she'll need watering by the 15th-16th of November.
Day 25 update, I snapped the main cola lst'ing I know, I know. I was shaking, my wife wasn't even home to help with her tiny nimble hands and that left me with the task of taping her up with clear cellotape. But, I rolled watched a couple of videos and said, f*ck it let's see! *it wasn't a clean snap, only about 1/3rd of the stem split, I created a makeshift operating table under her using the very same firm garden wire that twanged as I picked up the pot and snapped her. It was the second node from the top, and her leaves drooped every so slightly for an hour, by 3 hours her leaves were praying again and seem to have recovered. Jeez. Intense day. She seemed to enjoy her just ph'd water and calmag as I was advised not to feed nutes with every feed. Still wet. But drinking well. I mean hopefully, with the stress she redirects even more to the lower nodes that have formed potential tops. It's a really nice even canopy, bushy, her stems thickening and she is gaining height. I may have seen a double pistil, what is this indicating? May pose a grow question and show the surgery to my girl, get advice on how it'll affect it, have I done a good job of fixing it and will my wife kill me for snapping her? Stay tuned lol.
Day 28 update
Tomorrow we will be entering week 4 and she will be one month old from sprout. Her lower nodes have finally gotten long enough so that I can steak them down towards the edges of my pot and staked around 5 potential cola sites. Her nutes will be increased to 5ml in her next feed, as very soon she will require bloom, her sex pistils are starting to show on a few sites. Fighting for that extra growth and stretch before flower. Very excited for this upcoming week I'm expecting explosive growth!
Day 29, beginning of week 5. Fed on day 28, 2L ph'd water, upped to 5ml of terra grow and 1ml calmag. Noticed some 8-9 fingered leaves while leaf tucking, apparently signs of a healthy plant. Continuing lst with lower nodes.
Day 30, adjusted the lst and re staked her down.
Day 31, removed the steaks as the lower bud sites had stretched. Continually leaf tucking
Day 32, did light leaf defoliation around 8 leaves.
Day 33 removed the stakes and placed them further up the growth. Tomorrow she will be watered.
Day 34, watered with 2.5ml plagron terra grow, 2.5ml plagron terra bloom and 1ml calmag. dropped some equipment on her when trying to clean the grow area. Effectively thimmed her as half of the top still remains. I say to remove the top completely that remains so it can send energy to the side nodes, wife says leave it and let it grow, see how it turns out. So wife wins. (Smart husband) and her half thimmed main cola will be left (what's left) intact. Luckily she is not quite flowering yet, only just entering pre flower. Plenty of other bud sites. Interesting experiment.
So I believe we are entering pre flower. *edit i have changed the week back to veg and beginning week 6 (7 on the diary) as flower. White pistils everywhere, tops should be forming this week/next. Accidental FIMing of top main cola. Resulting in the secondary top nodes stretching and the main cola has grown diagonally on its own to allow light to the lower nodes. Fascinating. Already rerouting power to the next top area. So resilient even after all my mistakes. I'm very happy with the progress of my first proper grow. More lst today. She will soon be upright again, getting hard to leaf tuck with all the Bush forming. She smells earthy, slight citrus. Very strong skunk smell.
Day 37 (26th nov) plant still felt heavy ish so will be watered tomorrow Day 38
Day 38 watered 2l ph corrected water as last feeding she had nutrients.
Day 39, removed 5 lower bud sites not receiving light, so light lollipopping and defol around 10 leaves.
Day 41, removed around 4 more lower growth sites that were weak and defoliated. Trying to thin out the canopy before she actually enters flower. Wondering how long she'll be in preflower. Really waiting for the "dandelion" phase atm to signal full blown flower. Her next feeding (unsure when) will be Plagron. 2.5ml terra grow and 2.5ml terra bloom and possibly 1ml calmag if required.
Day 42 and she is 6 weeks old today. I am aware the diary is a week ahead it won't let me change it atm. So at week 7 she is technically 6 weeks old.
She is 42 days old today. This is beginning of week 6. Pre flower is still ongoing but I definitely feel with the defoliation and removing of some lower growths it should start sending energy to buds. I will begin uploading more images now, of the top and side view and some images of bud sites. She's done smashing so far. Very wide and low with the lst. She is still on transitional nutes until full flower.
Day 43 watered 2.5ml terra and 2.5ml bloom and 1ml calmag in 2l of water ph'd to 6.5. (Last watering 5 days ago day 38 with plain ph'd water) every 2 days I will upload pictures of top progress. My first set being on day 42, then day 44 and so on.
Day 45 small defoliation to open up centre growth
Day 46 watered 2l water with 5ml terra grow and 2ml calmag
Day 48 heavy defol again she just keeps rebushing every few days with new light spots opened up not much to report atm apart from slow bud growth and still some stretching occurring also. Stinking out my house already smells superb!
Been busy a few days, kinda just checking her every so often see if she's grown, today 11th December lollipopping due to under growth not receiving light. She looks good. Still in pre flower. Last watering was 5ml terra grow in 2l of phd water with 2ml calmag put her on a tub so she's closer to light without moving height due to her sister sharing that light.
Roughly on week 11, been real busy.. holiday, then christmas and new year. She's still fattening really well. Her sheer size is slowing her down, she's finally done stretching upwards and is now focusing on packing on. She still has ages, I'm guesstimating another month at least. Anyway here's some update photos for this week.
Added some nug shots from various bud sites around the plant, how are they coming on? Now she's stopped stretching she's starting to frost more day by day and her buds do seem to be growing, how long would you say is left? Please let me know??
Despite partially beheading her, snapping her main stem and some other issues she was highly resilient. Her fibres when growing were flexible and perfect for high amounts of lst. She grew slower because of this however she produced both larger colas and plenty of lower popcorn nugs. She was very sticky, resinous and a beautiful pale shade of green in stark contrast to her highly coveted and crystallised look of dense trichomes. Her strength was fantastic and the flavours were diesel, fruit a hint of citrus. Beautiful. Her stretch was impressive- this small dense Bush became a gangly dense monster which was harvested earlier than she could've gone due to mold issues in the environment (went on holiday and moisture built up the plants were unaffected)
These plants were harvested early due to mold issues in the plant room and I didn't want it to spread to the plant so we quickly harvested them although they could have gone longer due to lst and size. Overall she was highly resilient to my first time grow mistakes. Very easy to lst. The plant was highly flexible and with my new found skills would love to replicate the potential on a new environment. She was delicious.
@StealthyBuds, thanks man I certainly am, I can only ever aspire to achieve some of your grows just checked your most recent looks amazing, as i am a beginner would you recommend autos or photos? And certainly gonna need it with the budget grow 🤣
Might be wrong but I think you started doing LST a bit too early. Wait till she grows more nodes like three to four (then tie down node four to expose node three to the light, and so on), right now there's really no need to LST cuz there aren't any overshadowed grow sites present yet... Good luck 🙌 (again could be wrong if yield isn't your concern, since you mentioned bonsai)
@zenco, I do see some growth, the lower branches are stretching and leaves seem to be growing, I'm just so scared about her flowering before she's ready. I'm really put off autos. My first two grows were like hand me down lights and equipment next to nothing. But they flowered so early ( gorilla glue #4 and critical 2.0) This time I've invested a little more time and money hoping it equates to end mass lol. She's very pliable atm, she was thickening rapidly at the stalk and I honestly didn't want to snap her at a later point so it was a now or never, so far pleasantly surprised I'll be updating every week if you do happen to follow along
@UmbrellaCorpCow, only day 16 and she seems to be responding well to the stress, I'm sure she'll do great with what u plan on doing. Just one of those drawbacks of lst is trying to find out whether she's stunted or busy recovering underneath the soil :/ Keep staying patient and nimble with ur fingers and I think you should be good for sure
@zenco, hey, I've just added a day 16 lst progress update, I've only seen an odd few lst at such a young week. There are now around 4 branches more exposed than before lst (the lighter green leaf areas in the picture) one is underneath the main cola branch. Once she stretches a bit more, I'm going to try then rotate and stake down the main cola at a 45degree angle to expose that lower potential cola to have a total of 5 main colas fingers crossed. It may not work, im hoping it doesn't stunt her
Following for your first grow -- for a long time, when i was able to grow a few years ago, I followed hundreds of new growers to help them with their fundamentals. it's been a few years since I've been able to grow, but i'll be able to again in a couple weeks, so I may be a bit rusty to give you super in depth feedback for the first bit. What you will notice for sure is that teaching people the basics will be how you go from a good solid beginner to a good solid intermediate grower, it helped me immensely.
Your plant is very promising, though it's growth is going to be split among all those colas. if you're only doing LST and you're doing enough to make it sad, that's no longer LOW stress training. Everyone pushes it a bit too much every once in a while, but if youre going to shock it, do all the things that are going to shock it (defoliate, whatever) at the same time to minimize time under shock. Make sure to give it time to recover during its early flower and go easy from here on out; it will be more brittle and you have already laid the groundwork for its overall structure during veg. generally, if you have to do LST during flower it's because if you won't there'll be an issue crowding wise, best to avoid.
@Jaindoh, didn't see this comment til now, she's definitely still growing which is giving me some relief that I haven't stunted her I'm pretty happy with her leaves atm. Still really nice and lush green. I've been removing some bottom growth around 8 so far I think on the lower and leaving the rest I may do some minor pulling out of the branches if she's too tightly packed in the centre but leaving her to finish stretching before tying down in proper flower. We've enjoyed the process so far it's been amazing watching her grow now its all watching and reacting. No leaf spots atm really, minor tip burns occurring tho so need to sort that apart from that we're just pretty much watching her lol its a pleasure really mad plants lol
@UmbrellaCorpCow, you are likely to see some stretch but it's probably going to be 8in max. In my experience the only other main thing that makes plants barely stretch is when theyre basically completely rooted out in their container. As strong as modern autos are, it's hard to think they've done that in 5 weeks. The stretch will be good, the extra nodes on those colas will all have bud, and the nodal spacing should be tight. I use very similar training techniques myself. How much it stretches is going to be strain and pheno dependent.
@UmbrellaCorpCow, this shape will control the stretch very well. Super resilient strains are even good for advanced growers, depending on the conditions you have. Big fan of Royal Queen. The only thing I would add about your training is that this is a shit ton of colas which will split the growth a bit too much for yield (i've done the same thing repeatedly). Next time do the same thing but cut the vertical branches and only keep 8 growth tips. With autoflowers, you don't get to control when they start flowering, which means you can miss the best windows to do things like remove colas that will end up as larf or crowding. You're probably going to have crowding issues, so be careful about mold. honestly I almost think you might should clear out some of the stuff in the middle despite it flipping, but it's a really tough call with autos.
Boa sorte com sua menina
Aqueles dias que dizemos para nós mesmos, (maldita hora que fui mexer)
2 dias atrás, posicionar extração que estava pendurada provisoriamente, e deixei cair partiu 2 meninas 😵😭🤧
Pelhor e automáticas 😔 uma de 2 semanas esta colar mas sem grade esperança, e segunda partiu mesmo ainda tentei colar, mas murchou 😔😭🤧
Maldita hora que fui mexer 🤬
@Tmasm, ah well then hopefully! Fingers crossed. I snapped my main stem low stress training she wilted for about an hour and went back to praying leaves around 3 hours later, tough little ladies 💪
Hey bro nice plants! Im about to start my first autoflowers could you please tell me how much plants you have grown? And did you really got does beatifull buds woth only that fecida lamp? Are 120 watts enough to get buds like yours??
@Friendlystoner420, hey cheers man, me and my wife have currently grown white widow, wedding cake, northern lights, orion f1 and just cracking some new seeds from taste budz, yeah I used that light singularly throughout all my grows although I could do with another if growing more than one plant, but yes with its dimmer function I found that its easy to adapt to problems. A lot of factors go into achieving even popcorn nugs, the right watering schedule, not stressing her, the right light intensity, humidity. Some gals are fussy, others could sprout on a dessert rock and be happy. But definitely recommend fecida.
@OG_Mane, around 8pm at night I think, every 4-5 days in veg and 3-4 during flower. Lst after watering as the water can dislodge and disturb your tie down/stake down points, good luck bro
UmbrellaCorpCow
