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FINALLY CAUGHT UP Rough start, feeling good about the progress. These plants (two strains) are tight and compact. They are uneven. PQs 10"/13" {{{}}}} GN 13"/16" Utilizing dual humidifiers and holding humidity about 70%. I often push that up to the 90%+ and allow the whole tent to wallow in the moisture. These plants are showing no signs of mold or humidity related rots. The chiller keeps the system water between 69 and 71 degrees F. I have 8 small fans in the tent. I use them to create a cyclone effect. I will be adding a controller so I can slow the speed and flow to prevent a hurricane. It can get intense. Also running a pretty cheap inline fan with Vortex as backup. I have two cuttings that rooted well in soil. It was a very successful experiment and I'll find a hillside for them where I can give it a shot. I do not want the soil in the tent. No sign of root rot ... very healthy roots. Trimming again now ... more photos to come. Will add nutrient to bring PPM back up. More topping ????
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Grow Questions
ProGuyMJ
ProGuyMJstarted grow question 2 months ago
I am using General Hydroponics, hydrobloom, ryzofuel, CalMag ... and unsure of the right mix to get this rolling after the seeds germinate. Also, as I mix for subsequent topping off, which of these nutrients should be increased/decreased over time.
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SkunkleDamo
SkunkleDamoanswered grow question 2 months ago
Hi there you are best to look at the general hydroponics feed chart that will be in the bottles, website etc. Once they germinate they won’t need any nutrients for a few days and when you start using the nutrients it is best to start at a greatly reduced rate
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LSchnabel
LSchnabelanswered grow question 2 months ago
General Hydroponics has a feed schedule on their website for all their nutrients. You can print out the feed schedule and use that as a basis point. They break it up into a Light, Medium and Heavy feeding. I use general hydroponics as well and stick with the light feedings till week 4 then go to medium feedings. For seeds in soil I only used CalMagic for the first week, second week they got their first dose of nutrients at a light feed. Also, I only feed once per week. It’s best to get a nice TDS meter so you know exactly what you are mixing up so you are not too heavy or too light. An entry level one will run -50. Hope this helps
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ProGuyMJ
ProGuyMJstarted grow question 2 months ago
Temperatures overnight with the LED were higher than expected. (82.3F). Lights off at 8:30AM, maintained -78F duration of lights out. Lights are now on and the door ajar. Did having the higher temperature for 18 hours negatively affect the seeds?
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LSchnabel
LSchnabelanswered grow question 2 months ago
Not at all my friend. In fact recommended germination temperatures are 70-85 degrees. Would it be best to keep a more steady temp, yes, but you are well within acceptable ranges. Good luck and hopefully we see some sprouts in your diary soon! Hope this helps.
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 months ago
27c not that bad. will be fine.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 months ago
No.
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ProGuyMJ
ProGuyMJstarted grow question 2 months ago
When moving the rockwool cubes to the clay pebbles ... Does the wrap come off the cube?
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LSchnabel
LSchnabelanswered grow question 2 months ago
I have always removed the wrap. I don’t know if it makes too much of a difference but it just felt right doing it so many years ago that I always have done it. I hope this helps.
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ProGuyMJ
ProGuyMJstarted grow question a month ago
Who has experience with using LUX meters to position lights in various stages of hydroponic growth. I feel I am giving mine too much light, based on the readings, but don't want to pull them back. Currently 10" from the plants.
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Sit_Ubu_Sit_Good_Dog
Sit_Ubu_Sit_Good_Doganswered grow question a month ago
If you take notes of the lux values relative to each "type" of light.. it's very useful. If the CCT and other properties are the same, then the values can be re-used under different equipment with those same specs. Otherwise, you'd want to take new measurements and similar trial and error of finding what gives the resulting "optimal" growth pattern for your environement. No matter how you measure this, you need to observe the plant and adjust to what you see and not some theoretical target DLI that is only meant as a ballpark idea and not an exact answer. It's the same exact systematic process you'd need to take with a "quantum meter" that accurately measures photons/s of PAR. The initial starting point will be more informed with a quantum meter, but you still have to go through a trial and error process to find optimal hours of operate (a commonly overlooked tool of manipulation) x intensity of light (PPFD and resulting DLI) with good distribution across your canopy. But even this isn't a huge difference because some common sense range of hanging distance is going to put you in a good starting spot anyway. Consider impace of how light spreads out very quickly, therefore it increasingly loses intensity in any 1 spot the further it is away from the light source. So, a power/hangingdistance/hours of operation combo that results in the lights being very close to the plants is find for smaller, younger plants. Except in extreme cases of diodes perfectly distiributed relative to growing area, A combo of those facters that require a bit more distance from the canopy will give better light penetration -- a complete waste early on with young plants. But once you figure it out for one context, the same lux values at canopy can be used in later life stage contexts - even if going from 18hours to 12hours. usually with a qb you need 18-24" to properly cover the footprint that 100% power and 12hours opeartion (for photoperiods, or longer for autos). "Bar" style lights can often get much closer. Working backward from your ending canopy size and distributing light to edges and corners is more about geometry - take measurements all over the place and make sure the deviation from central area to edges is reduced to acceptable levels. Start here for obvious reason. Then find the resulting power from light x hours of operation that give you the best growth. the proportions will remain the same.. if the corner is 60% of middle, it'll be 60% of middle whether you have the light at 100% or 50%. This is why the lux readings have the integrity of a 500 usd quantum meter's readings of umol/s of PAR. You'd also see a 60% reading in corner compared to central area with the quantum meter. it is 1:1 proportional in this way. the drawback to lux readings is that light with different properties will read different values for the same umol/s of PAR. umol/s of PAR is what the plant cares about and nothing else. Resulting DLI is what matters underneath. So, if you use different equipment, you may notice slight differences as to max lux you can give to canopy, but underneath it'll still be a similar umol/s of PAR (PPF) and DLI (ppfd x hours of operation, simlpy). Read wiki on Daily Light Integral (DLI). Get the gist of it. You dont need to memorize the math. going back to above how once you figure out a good luz value at canopy and hours of operation in vege phase can be translated to a 12 hour cycle without re-measuring anything. inversely proportional to the change in hours of operation you need a boost to power. so 18 down to 12 needs 150% more power, or lux. ( x 18/12 or 3/2 or 150%) In the end the same DLI is the goal, and it is proportional in this way to hours of operation. Light's dimming power is usually also mostly 1:1 but not something you can assume, but if the plants react the same, that is confirmation. (see examples of this in cocoforcannabis light model reviews.. you see the umol/s output is mostly proportional to the percent power of the light dimmer, though not perfect. learning the math from the wiki and using your light's spec sheet in conjunction with a lux meter is going to be pound for pound just as good and just as easy to optimize as a quantum meter. it jsut takes a bit more effort on your part. And half assing it is still very useful along with trial and error, as stated above. this looks like a lot.. but it's quite simple and should be common sense deductive processes to reach a goal vs anything that needs to be re-read. learn the definitions and how to perceive light and plants absorption of it. then it's just common sense from there. i'd defnitely trust a lux meter over a phone app, but the important thing to this process is that the readings are consistent, which they are. It doesn't matter if your trial and error leds you to a reading of 25k or 60klux or 900 PPF over 12 hours. What matters is that specific level of light is always "60klux", which it will be under that same exact model of light (or same exact light properties). The apps and camera lenses give inflated values by comparison, but it'll be inflated in the same exact way each time. the cheap lux meters are more directional in the light it captures - i believe is the cause for deviation. it is mechanical in nature.
ProGuyMJ
ProGuyMJstarted grow question a month ago
I am adding 2 clones to fill out my tent. I will change to water tomorrow. The 2 Purple Queens are entering their 3 week and the nutrient mix will turn up a notch. What mix would you recommend for the nutrients? Is there a nutrient to add in this unique situation?
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Sit_Ubu_Sit_Good_Dog
Sit_Ubu_Sit_Good_Doganswered grow question a month ago
both in vege? it's old enough? the same formula is fine. There's not really at ime a plantn all of a sudden needs 1 thing. you should be providing it at all times - a well-balanced diet. sometimes you need a shift in flower with a bit less N.. maybe 10-15% less depending on how heavily you fed it in vege. think about humans.. one day a year do they need a spike in calcium? no, that's crazy. The body needs a certain amount of everything, every day. plants are even simpler. also assuming 'clones' means rooted cuttings and not 'cuttings' with no roots. A vege plant is a vege plant is a rose is a rose.
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Tommy716
Tommy716answered grow question a month ago
With clones, I typically use clonex by grow technology. It works amazing and dynamo microbials and that's it in the beginning. After about a week or so after transplant, I go to about 1/5 of tip of my normal vegetative nutrients.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question a month ago
Clones should be fine with your "seedling" mix.
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OK ... we got 3 up strong, 1 popping through and hopefully #5 tomorrow. Thanks for the responses. 😌
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Thanks folks. I have a Bluelab monitor ... so in great shape there. I see the feeding schedule and guess the question is a matter of proportions. If I add things like Rapidstart and Hydroguard .... ect. Do I pull back on the Micro/Gro/Bloom to keep the balance?
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I have purchased General Hydroponics nutrients and do not seem them represented here on these diaries as an option. Am I using this program incorrectly?