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Hempire Bruce Banner
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Budcrack Budcrack
6 years ago
Week 1, concluding first week of vegetating: The first week of 2019 turned out to be a very busy week! Not only did I start this new Bruce Banner round, but also my OG Kush from 3 different seed houses needed harvesting. Please feel free to check out my harvest-report on them later, it is due to come after this report. I hope to finish it today (Sunday) or else tomorrow. The O.G. wil be drying for the upcoming 2 weeks so please come back after to check on the final results. I wil be signing-up for the newbie of the month January, i just really hope you like my grow diary! First week is already a fact! Many to go, but letโ€™s not dwell on that fact. In fact, i have a deadline this breeding season. Experience learns that the months June, July and August are a no-go in terms of flowering at my place. But I had a false start when my season started September 2018, because off home-improvement I had to wait until end of the month. So ideally i would start germinating and pre-grow somewhere in august (in the pop-up tent downstairs, much cooler there), so that the first round of the season can go 12/12 in my tent beginning September. So that means my season this time is at least 1,5 month shorter, which means that i will be finishing flowering the next round in June 2019! Not ideal, I hope I can manage to keep temperature below 28 then. This also learned me that itโ€™s not going to be easy to reach my second objective, that is harvesting 4 rounds in the breeding season of 9 months. But I will keep improving the best i can, so weโ€™ll see! I effectively need 672 grams each year, and if i can produce that amount with my setup in just 3 rounds iโ€™m cool with it. So, the Bruce Banners come up nice! I have another 2 weeks on 24Hrs for pre-growth starting tomorrow. My plan is to transfer them into the 11 liter pots and in my tent on 21th of January. I hope by then the tops will be far enough to be able to FIM them properly. FIMming stresses plants a lot less than Topping. In fact, within the same day after FIMming they will be good to go again. So my plan is to do this on the same day, before transplanting. This way i can use the fact that plants tend to go into a grow-spurt after being planted into bigger pots as leverage to reach the desired height when they really start flowering. Also this same 21th of January they will be put on 12/12. This will all result in a total grow period of just 5 weeks before flowering starts. If this all works out, and the yield is ok, this will be a method to use more often. Again, time will tell and so weโ€™ll see about it! You can also see in the pictures that i came up with what I will call henceforth the mainline-adapter. I always look for the most efficient, least expensive, easy methodโ€™s to establish my goals. I guess this is also a product of that thought. Only thing is that i maybe was a little bit early to install them, because i wonโ€™t be using them until after the 21th. But maybe at least i donโ€™t risk to destroy anything vital by installing them afterwards? The idea is to be able to mainline after FIMming into 4 branches. The little piece off straw can slide along with the growing plant while keeping the branches in line. I can also replace the short prickers with longer ones when needed (and the plant can carry the extra weight). Again, time will learn wether or not this is the way to go. I hope everyone following me will enjoy this diary as much as I do growing the Bruce Banners. If you do please donโ€™t forget to like! And hopefully weโ€™ll meet next week again for another update? Thank you and happy growing! Budcrack. *Older comments starting this round here below:* Almost new year, new round, new chance to reach the 1 gram per watt led-light. Well, you gotta pursuit your dreams! Last round i'd use 16 plants inside 6 liter pots to form a SoG. Last year, before my adventures on Growdiaries started, i also used this method on 16 C-Banana's and 10 Gorilla Glue #4 and 16 Girl Scout Cookies (see pictures). All of wich delivered nice harvests, but nowhere near that 1gr/watt. I hope my efforts with the OG Kush and this same approach wil get me closer, it looks promising. We'll see! This round i want to create a nice SoB (sea of buds), by topping or fimming the plants early as possible, and use main-lining to spread the stems even over the surface. HighTV advised me to use a minimum of 2 main stems per plant, i decided to use 4 because it will reduce the stretching even more, and fill's more efficient. I will trim every branch back to the main-stem, so the light can spread nice and even between the stems to also create some nice popcorn-buds underneath the main tops. I hope this will all in the end lead to a bigger yield. Before i had 16 main buds + popcorn buds, now that will increase to 9 plants x 4 main buds/plant = 36 buds. The volume of soil will be approx. the same as 16 x 6 liter pots. Using less volume, like 9 x 6 liter pots, instead of 9 x 11 liter pots contradicts my goal to reach a larger yield, because plants need the same ammount of root below the surface to support the plantvolume above. The size of the yield is not the only objective, because i want to use the 9 months in wich i'm able to grow inside my tent optimal, and try to reach 4 harvests in that period. I know you can use 6 pots, 4 pots or even 1 pot to fill that space, but the pre-grow time will be longer so that's not an option. I have to find the sweetspot wich hopefully get's me close to 1 gram/watt and 4 harvests in 9 months time. Only this way i'll be able to stay medicated and cover the 3 months in wich i can't grow inside my tent. Ok, enough strategy, on saturday 29th of December i'd started germinating 10 selected Bruce Banner seeds, using the 100% foolproof coffeefilter/ziplockbag-method. I don't know if the appearance of the seed mathers anything, but i tried to select the most uniform looking seeds. They'll be pre-growing inside my pop-up tent (see pictures) because the OG Kush is flushing for a while longer and they also need to dry inside the tent. I bought 4 LED fixtures, each delivering 1600 lumens at 20 watt, color is 6000k. Together with the previous 45 watt grow-LED's they will hopefully grow my plants with short internode space and firm stems who can support their own weight later in the cyclus. Let's hope this works out! Let's see after this weekend how germinating those little sprouts goes!
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Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 6 years ago
Hi! I want to ask you guys to look at my plan and give your thought's and suggestions on it? Sorry for the long read, i tried to be detailed on it. I hope it's worth the effort. Thank you very much in advance for your input!
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
hey there budcrack hard to input based on a plan, but what i can see straight away is that you're not optimal on your vapour pressure deficit, VPD. VPD basically regulates the metabolism of the plant and if you want to optimise your grow time especially veg time, you'll want to tune that in. what you want to do right away is to get the humidity up and temperature about 1ยฐC lower by using a dome, or a PET bottle cut in half over each of the seedlings to keep the moisture in. i see you're using coco nutrients and bloom boosters on day one... why? dont do that bro, you're gonna stress or maybe even kill these seedlings like that. Right now what you want to be doing is promoting ROOT growth, how ? kelp extract and micronutrients... combine them in a foliar spray spray once every 2 or 3 days until dripping wet for the first four weeks or so. that will help keeping the humidity up at least a bit as well. you're already using vitalize, which can be part of that spray... I see you got those LEDs and spectrums tuned in real nice : warm white is perfect, you got it ! a few last things ... your lamp to plant distance should be no more than 12 inches, currently you're at 17+ dial that in otherwise your plants will stretch all wrong. 7 PH is actually way too high ! what's the PH of rain water? 5.5 why is that important ? different nutrients get absorbed at different PHs, you want to lower the PH to at least 6 or even 5.8 if you can. i know it's a lot, but that's my best advice ! hope this helps ! ๐Ÿš€
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 6 years ago
My question is what improvements to my basic skills would enhance my plants general health and resistance against plagues and diseases. I want to learn how to improve health because of hydroponic aspirations in the future, where it is key to be able to react on minor changes! ;-)
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Stick
Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @Budcrack! I would recommend to consider DIY foliar sprays. In my opinion foliar feeding is an underrated topic, but a good foliar solution can have multiple benefits. Whether you want to speed up the growth, fix an upcoming deficiency, repel/kill pests or prevent an invasion, you can do all of this with 1 DIY foliar solution. I'm currently digging into this "perfect foliar spray quest" and found some surprising results by mixing humic acids, some Nitrogen fertilizer (MegaCrop), crushed garlic, liquid latex and neem oil. Doses should be experimented and adjusted, start with low doses for everything. If you experiment this please share your results with us! Hope this will help, happy growing ๐Ÿ‘Š
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 6 years ago
If you'd please look at the pictures with 'question' stated below them? This is actually the biggest bud, only it is showing these strange edges. There is (for now) no budrot, i checked. The leaves are firmly attached. What should i do, harvest it? The other buds don't show this.
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Adrenalized
Adrenalizedanswered grow question 6 years ago
Still feeding this late in flowering? Don't forget to cut the nutes 2 weeks before harvest and just water them untill you Chop. Looks like a problem with over- or underfeeding. Check this link out and try to deduct what you've been feeding and when and what you could be lacking or overdoing on. https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-cannabis-nutrient-and-deficiency-table-n88
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Budcrack
Budcrackcommentedweek 16 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, hi Bulbi ๐Ÿ‘‹! It seems that they stopped stretching and directed their energy to foliage development, it looks great. I'd learn that only young clones need high humidity because their root systems handicapped. Where now only 10 days on the way since i'd planted them, and i can see now that this really makes a difference. I also see that there is so much contradicting information to come by, although my initial source is a good one! I learned all my basic skills from it. Anyway, thanks man!
Budcrack
Budcrackcommentedweek 26 years ago
Hi Bulbi, brought down Ph with acid, thus acidulated.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@Budcrack, hope so too - let's see ! bottles can probaly come off, check the VPD, maybe put a thermometer and hygrometer in there and double check maybe it's hotter than you think
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, they are back under the bottles now to hopefully restart metabolism. The lights are all on again on 24Hrs. I hope by the end of the week they continued growing.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@Budcrack, gotcha... only two reasons i can tell the leaves would turn yellow like that is if they dont like spray with pH much lower than 5.5 or higher than 6.5 or they dont like nutes in their spray; second reason is kind of strange but it happens with clones very often : so basically with everything dialed in perfectly, the metabolism is in overdrive due to the crazy light schedule so the plant wants to grow crazy fast and since it's too young it has less root mass and doesnt have enough roots to suck out the nutrients it needs from the soil so it starts cannabalising its leaves. cut the lights down to a still very intense 18/6 and see if that helps?
Budcrack
Budcrackcommentedweek 156 years ago
@Adrenalized, Thanks for your input. This is 1/71 buds, and it's the only one showing this (and it's the biggest). The rest ony has little burned tips. This week concluded the seventh week of flowering under LED. They need 9 weeks flowering in total, and i started flushing beginning the eight week, so no probs there!! And LED usually takes a little bit longer, but i will check on those trichs.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@Adrenalized, well that would explain there is no sign off budrot. This lamp can be used as close as 5cm. Guess that bud came to close then! Thanks ๐Ÿ˜Š
Adrenalized
Adrenalizedcommented6 years ago
@Budcrack, well if it isn't the nutes my second guess would be lightburn. I see the lights are pretty close to the plant, and probably the biggest bud gets closest to the lights? Anyway the rest of your girls are looking Very Tasty. I hope I'll get Nice plants like you ๐Ÿ™‚
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 46 years ago
๐Ÿ˜จ why are you removing the side branches on these ? usually you want to promote the side branches, hence pinching ...
LockDownGrow
LockDownGrowcommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, what light u want me too bring ? Lol
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@LockDownGrow, let your truth shine brother๐Ÿ‘Š bring us the light ๐Ÿ™Œ
LockDownGrow
LockDownGrowcommented6 years ago
@Budcrack, only 4 bramches ? Mine have 8 or 9 , Leave the branches on
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Mrtony
Mrtonycommentedweek 195 years ago
you lost 40oz after dry bro๐Ÿ˜ฎ
Mrtony
Mrtonycommented5 years ago
@Budcrack,NICE AS long as it done the job๐Ÿ˜‰
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Mrtony, Yeah, i'm taking my time drying trough and trough because otherwise the inside of the bud is to wet and i can't get the moisture down inside the container. This way the right amount of moisture is added by the Boveda packs, easier to get it up than down. But it's true, it's not a big plus for the endweight. I can assure you though, this was one of the best tasting bud i'd ever had, and it lasted me untill two weeks before the Honey Cream was ready, so it was almost enough. ;-)
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 16 years ago
hey man, great plan ! awesome description, following this diary is gonna be an absolute pleasure ! here's more information on VPD complete with charts : https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/vapor-pressure-deficit-cannabis-cultivation/ hope this helps ! let me know if you have any more questions ! ๐Ÿš€
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, hi Bulbi ๐Ÿ‘‹! It seems that they stopped stretching and directed their energy to foliage development, it looks great. I'd learn that only young clones need high humidity because their root systems handicapped. Where now only 10 days on the way since i'd planted them, and i can see now that this really makes a difference. I also see that there is so much contradicting information to come by, although my initial source is a good one! I learned all my basic skills from it. Anyway, thanks man!
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, hi Bulbi ๐Ÿ‘‹! two days further, and the seedlings where up for another spray. So i went through them one by one, and FUUU...๐Ÿ˜  totally forgot about the fact that the spray would cause the wooden sticks to mold!! So immediately removed the sticks along with the mold, i hope the seedlings won't be affected by it! Ok, the seedlings where sprayed for the first time on Sunday, today they look as if growth took a few steps up! Great! The stems didn't grow any longer, but the leaves definitely are positively affected by the spray. I was scared as hell to do this, to be honest. But you already knew that from our chats. What would be a good time to remove the bottles, and maybe start with a mild nutrient solution? Thanks man!
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, no CFL it is all LED. That's why i was carefull with distance, the lights are quite intens.
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GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabcommentedweek 106 years ago
Coming along well ๐Ÿ‘
The_Projexx
The_Projexxcommentedweek 26 years ago
Looking like you're well on you're way ! Wishing you the best of luck on you're grow ! -Happy Growing!๐Ÿ˜Ž
The_Projexx
The_Projexxcommented6 years ago
@Budcrack, Im very exicited for mine to come down man the patience shes wearing low lol lol but I going to be good and wait almost at the end now ! Thanks for responding homie -Happy Growing!๐Ÿ˜Ž
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@The_Projexx, thanks mate! Your doing very well yourself! Let's see what this round's got in store for me. Grtz, Budcrack
Athos
Athoscommentedweek 16 years ago
To answer your question: They look great, although there's two things I want to point out. They are stretchy, try puting them closer to the light. Second, you are feeding too early, you risk burning them, diecisiete if you are going to transplant them to 11 liter pots later, let them feed on the soil.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@@Athos, reduced height from 45 to 30 cm's (see last picture). I now must see that they don't become to hot, closer to the lamps. Deleted planned nutrient to give this evening, will continue with plain water.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@@Athos, first i will put them closer to the light right away, i was careful because the new LED's are much more intense than the previous lights (Which where only the LED-strips). I hope that end of next week they will show better response on being closer to the light. Second, i was planning on giving the stated amount of nutrients this evening, divided by the 10 seedlings in 1 liter water. Up until now they only got plain water. So i will wait to give them nutrients longer. Thanks for your input!
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabcommentedweek 96 years ago
I wouldnt complain many would envy to be having your current grow. It takes years to master growing methods and you only really learn once youve done it for yourself ๐Ÿ‘ No popcorn buds here!
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@GreenHouseLab, can't argue with that! I'm now growing for five years, of which the first two almost didn't yield anything smokable (but maybe that's because i started growing sativa on hydro in a 160x80x80?) !! But i'm not complaining, i just want to try to do a perfect job, and try to keep you guys informed how. Happy growing mate!
stephandjo
stephandjocommentedweek 66 years ago
Great technique ๐Ÿ‘Œ I know I will learn a lot of stuff ๐Ÿ‘Œ
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@stephandjo, not to fast, this is also my first time this way. You'll have to wait this one out to see if it works! To the 1 gram/watt/plant! ๐Ÿ‘Š
LockDownGrow
LockDownGrowcommentedweek 46 years ago
And being generous on the skill lol but hey I did the end result , so couldn't ask for more
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@LockDownGrow, Thanks for your quick response! I will take a look at your diaries. I have time to think it all over stil, so would you mind me asking some more questions? Grtz, Budcrack
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreencommentedweek 16 years ago
Hey budCrack definitely get in with newbie of the month if you can! Theres only 8 diaries in so far....and the likes will add up quick and before you know it you wont qualify for newbie anymore...thats what happened to me. My outdoor took 6 months, so by the time it was harvest i had somehow made it to master status even though i do not feel that way at all...so no newbie of the month for me. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@Experimentgreen, hi ExGREEN ๐Ÿ‘‹! I'd finally find a moment for a proper reaction to your comment, notice that i also asked you another question on chat. First, thanks for your kind words, if one would start its first grow, and try to take into account everything that helps to finish that round perfectly, I think your heads going to explode. I think in practice starting something like this takes almost everyone to make a lot of mistakes and learn a lot! Iโ€™m at it now for more than 4 years, of which the first two years delivered me hardly something useable!! Last indoor season (2017-2018) I was finally confident enough about my skills to plan and try to make 3 overlapping rounds, of which the results are seen here in the pictures (before Growdiaries). So now not only the base-skills but also the routine is there. So this season (2018-2019) its time to put the dots on the i (is that a saying in English?) Ok, first I want to tackle your comment on popcorn buds, for the last year i'd started using lower additional LED-bars for lighting these lower buds, and they are actually useable now. You can see from the pictures from last season that my plants always where very stretchy, what will now hopefully changes along with the help from Growdiaries growers. Do you suggest to remove everything apart from the mainsite? When you look at the pictures from last rounds harvesting R.Q.S. O.G. Kush, what would be the part you would have removed? As for the hot months, and whether or not to use an airco, that would be to expensive and stressful. I had a mobile airco in the bedroom in my last place, but there was always something with that thing. And I like to have a break that period to relax a bit and renew inspiration for next indoor season. The place where my tent sits is far from ideal, but the other 9 months suffice. Thanks for your input! ๐Ÿ‘
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 16 years ago
What should i say, respect. you are well prepared and expierienced.and i agree in seed selection, i always try to pic the most homogen ones. Successful and happy growing
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, yeah well the xp does'nt come overnight, but if you take a little step towards your goal every time it should go better and better! Thanks for your kind words, and happy growing to you to! ;-)
DailyBread
DailyBreadcommentedweek 146 years ago
Nice top job
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 36 years ago
great work rescuing these babies hopefully they wont be stunted ! i like the thinking though, great description !
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 26 years ago
what is acidulated water?