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So, I'm growing in a (very) small tent. (centimeters) 50 x 50 x 120.
Tent is inside a wardrobe, but the back of the wardrobe is open top and bottom, and against an exterior wall - so overheating does not seem to be an issue.
Tent: TH Deluxe D600 Grow Tent
Light: Spider Farmer SF 1000 LED Full Spectrum, Dimmable Function with Samsung LEDs
Ventilation: 4 inch / 10cm Spider Farmer Exhaust with carbon filter, setup outside the tent (just an exhaust tube in the tent.
Fan: Now with Spider Farmer 10w oscillating 24cm fan (sent back a Pro Breeze Mini Fan with Clip as it was insanely loud)
Seeds bought directly from Royal Queen Seeds - pack of 3 Sherbet Queen and pack of 5 Quick One. Picked one of each at random and planted them directly in small 17cm diameter. 20cm height, plant pots - medium a mix of perlite, coco fiber and potting compost. A layer of expanded clay balls at the base of the pot for drainage and ventilation.
Germinated after 3 days, although I realised I planted them far too deep - so on day 3 I scraped maybe 2cm of soil gently off the top until I could see the top curve of the cotyledon/stalk then left it. Seed showed itself properly the next day.
As per prior entry - thought they were getting a bit long and stretchy, but the stalks were dark and quite thick - so maybe just first grower paranoia.
Sherbet Queen is bigger than the Quick One after germination and also showed it's head a day earlier.
Tent temperature over first 7 days is 22.5 Celsius day and about 20C at night.
The average humidity is 55RH but for the first 4 days after germination, the plants were under half cut-off plastic cola bottles with a couple holes punched for ventilation to ensure higher humidity.
Ventilation was turned on after day 4 at a very low rate (10% of power just for cycling the air in tent).
Light was dialed at 50% power for first days and was turned up to 60% on day 4 after sprouting when second true leaves made their first appearance.
looks fine in diary. The early cue is color of the stem. If it isn't white/pale then it's got plenty of light.
Make sure the nodes spread out at least some small amount over next week or so. That will tell you if you are giving too much light. Early on they are obviously stacked on each other, but should see some spacing develop.
Looking good so far I think.
Light still at 60%, trying to decide if I should crank it up or not.
Due to tent size, I want to keep small plants hence small pots and two plants in the tent (although to be honest I didnt expect them both to sprout).
Not sure if its possible to tell node spacing yet, still not 100% sure what that is or ot it can already diagnose too much or too little light.
Expert advice appreciated 👌
Week has gone fast and they're both bushing out a little.
Smell has got very warm and fruity. Will be connecting the carbon filter today.
Growth seems strong, the stalks have gotten quick thick already..
Given these are supposed to both be short fast autoflowers, am considering if I risk LST for either of them (or maybe just the Sherbet Queen as it is already looking a good bit taller and more vigorous than the Quick One.
Ideally Id be able to keep them both at same height for lighting.
Node spacing on the plants are about 1 cm. Lights at full power since 5 days ago.
Watering each every 3 to 4 days with 250ml water at about ph6.
Will up from today to 500ml every 3 to 4 days as they sucked the moisture out of the pots to dry today.
Am giving nutrients every other water at the low end of the recommended dose. Will go full power from the end of this week I
Considering LST for 1 or both plants.
Should I bother or save risk it if I grow something taller (i have some fastbuds seeds I plan to grow next).
Am considering LSTing the Sherbet as twice height already of Quick1.
Also, have Ieft it too late to start. Stalks are pretty thick
You can use little LST if it’s ur first time! I would not go all in. U have plenty to learn on the way. Start out small then improve ur next grows.
Use lst for both. I suggest buying trellis net it’s the best thing u can use. First start off LST small then go over to a net. Then in the future u can try to top ur plant and super cropping when u learner the first steps lst/net.
Good luck my friend 🙌🏼💯 just dm me if you have some more questions
Plants have gone mad over last 7 days. Sherbet Queen especially almost doubled in size in a week.
Lots of pale growth coming out from under the big dark leaves.
Both plants showing some white on that new branch growth.
I assume they are maybe a week off starting to flower properly.
Smell is getting stronger, warm fruity and weedy.
Lights still 18hrs. Watering about half a litre every 3 days with veg nutrients. Pondering when to switch over to flowering.
So, week 3 veg, plants have exploded in growth.
Starting to see white hairs at the top of each branch.
Should I switch to flowering nutrients, or give them another week of veg food?
Thanks to all rellies by the way. Community here is super helpful, encouraging and friendly!
Hello-
I, personally, would start tapering off on the veg nutrients. Your plants appear dark in color to me and show the possibility of a little nitrogen toxicity. Perhaps next week you can start tapering in flower nutrient amendments.
Then after two weeks you'd be on primarily flower nutes. With the visible pre-flowers, she's getting ready for the switch.
I say this primarily because the nutes I'm using now seem to be added to some degree just prior to flower. But I still haven't found the ideal balance. I don't see what nutes you are using on the diary.
Ok, so, little ladies have gone mad this week.
Sherbet queen doubled in height, as did the Quick One.
Hoping they're both about done with that, due to my tiny tent. Only have 20cm left between the light and the top of the Sherbet 😫. She may need bending over some if it continues.
Smell is stronger, just like good fresh hashish smell.
As noted on pics, I f'ed up somewhere.
Got some yellowing and brown spots on the Sherbet. Think I likely overfed, as I am growing in potting compost and started feeding nutrients on week two.
Subsequent reading which I read two weeks too late suggests that potting compost has enough nutrient compost for 4-6 weeks of plant growth.
Anyway, doesn't seem to have affected her growth (yet/fingers crossed)
Quick One seems unaffected on the whole, just a little light yellowing on a few leaf tips.
I think flowering has started, but am not 100% sure.
Suggestions welcome 🙏
Thanks as always.
Have a great Monday 👍🏻
So, good feedback on last updates and questions posted.
I switched to bio nutrients as a) I had some off brand inorganic nutrients that I followed the instructions on, and still fried the plants a fair bit and b) did some more reading and it seems that the bio nutrients should be a bit more forgiving at low concentration and with differing pHs.
Couldnt find any commentary online about the risks of chamging from inorganic to organic nutrients, but I can only hope its better than burning both plants to death.
Bought a proper pH pen, and am watering now at 6.2ish, and also ensuring good run off to try and clear the salt build up. 1.5 litre every two days. Tipping the run off away for now, and its coming off the pots at about 6.8. May need to lower the watering to about 5.5 for a week or so?
Cleared out the understory cutting off the badly burnt leaves, this also helped lower the RH from about 65 to 50. Will start running the extractor fan 24hrs a day now as the nightime RH is 95% (maxing out the meter I think)
Stretching seems to be over. Bud sites are forming all over both plants, so I marked this entry as week 1 of flower.
Happy to see the trychome crystals starting to form 😀
Want to keep a rolling stock.
Pondering when to plant the next seed. Would humidity be a risk to buds at their last few weeks if they share a space with a plant in full veg mode?
Yes, high humidity is a problem for a plant in flower or vege for that matter, but extra risk with flowers, since bud rot spreads fast and can ruin an entire grow.
As long as you control RH% as you normal would/should, it'll be fine. Above 65% is to be avoided.
It takes ~2 weeks before seedlings take up any mount of space. Buy a small 2nd light that can cover your seedling tray. You don't need reflective walls or a tent early on.
Unless you use clones of the same plant all the time, the variables involved make perpetual gardens more wasteful and more expensive while reducing overall productivity. Overlapping is a better option more times than not. With minimal investment you can use a 20-30w light to handle seedlings through germination and initial growth before a transplant is needed. That's 15-20 days of overlap with virtually no cost. Don't need refelctive walls for a seedling. A countertop anywhere is fine.
A small tent and 2nd smaller light can handle your entire vege phase, and your grow cycles are only as long as it takes to flower. As far as productivity is concerned, it'll blow a perpetual garden out of the water -- all other factors the same, like wattage used. (apples to apples comparison)
So, what to do about the lower bud sites? Should I cut them off? If so how many? Below the level of the net maybe? All of them below the net level? Also, should I defoliate. And should I stagger the trimming over a few days for recovery? Advice, as always, greatly appreciated!
High AbsoluteBudinner,
You do not need to defoliate or cut away leaves. You only do this when there are too many leaves. This is not the case with your plants. And for buds, you only cut away really small buds thay will never develop into something usefull. This is also not the case with your plants.
But you do got a huge nutrient lockout. Water till 20% runoff to prevent nutrient salts building up inside your soil.
Make sure that you give the right pH and make sure that you do not overfeed. The nutrient value from your nutrient should be around EC 1.6 - 1.8 for your plants.
This should solve the deficiency and will give you nice fat buds to harvest! Happy Growing Buddy! 💚
So boosted the bloom nutrients a lot, and am starting to see signs of recovery on the new growth.
Smell is getting strong and the buds are super sticky.
No change in height, but the buds are getting really dense.
Found what I think was a couple of bananas on the Quick One. Was the most resilient of the two plants in terms of leaves, so I guess it had a different reaction to the stress I caused. Have only found them on 4 of the 20 or so bud sites, and removed each with tweezers as soon as I see them. Hopefully its not going to be too bad, but do not want to bin the first grow after almost 3 months. What's a few seeds between friends anyway.
So through the week, I alternated food/water with just water.
Ph in 6.2, ph of run off also 6.2.
Recovery of plants is looking good, new bud growth is tight and green and the new sugar leaves are all purple, I assume due to cooler night time temps.
Trichomes are turning cloudy and the buds sort of look like they are dipped in salt now, last week they were shiny like they were dipped in sugar.
Larger leaves are yellowing like autumn. Hopefully they are just coming to end, but always possible I made another mistake 😅
Will start to look for amber colours in the trichomes.
Think I will continue to feed alternate days for rest of this week and then move to water only next week and see where the plants go from there.
All the burnt leaves are now super crispy and starting to drop off, so not sure they will be able to gain much more energy for the buds with no true leaves left.
So Q1 is now alone, until the Strawberry Pie germinates at least.
She's still getting bigger and smellier and regowing some greenery.
Suspect two weeks more should do it, judging by trichomes as I do see a few ambers now deeper in the buds.
AbsoluteBudinner
