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Jack Herer
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6 years ago
Hi, It has been now few days since I tasted the JH harvest multiple times, for my first pill batch I converted 153 gr into butter and then pills ( after decarboxylating, of course ). The ratio for my butter is 1 gr herb vs 4 gr of butter vs 0.5 gr of lecithin : it's supposed to be quite strong ... The mix is prepared in the Magical Butter machine where it soaks for more than 4 hours at 71 degrees C. In total we harvested around 249 gr of dried flowers for 3 plants under 500 watts, so it's just below 0.5 gr/watt efficiency. Not good.๐Ÿ˜‘ But now, the most important part of the growth & review : the tasting & effect. The least I can say it's that I'm very disappointed in the effect overall. ๐Ÿ˜  Why ? well, you can see from the weekly update on Growdiaries that the plants grew normally, without stress ... harvested when we had a good majority of milky trichomes with ambers appearing under the microscope ... To be honest, the effect has been far ( very far ) under the expectations. Why is that ? why do I have the impression to have been another victim of marketing lies ? Indeed according to the description of the strain found on the Green House website, I should have been seriously & strongly affected : "Strong on body and mind, complex and very long lasting. Medicinally effective in pain reduction and appetite stimulation" But in reality, the effect is just slightly relaxing, and .... that's it. Nothing justifies to pay for or even grow that lame strains. ๐Ÿ˜’ What did I feel ? simple ... Strong on body & mind : no ... light on body, neutral on mind complex and long lasting : noooooooooo ! simple, but indeed, it seems to be long lasting medicinally effective in pain reduction : what kind of pain would that light effect be good for ? pains from blinking eyes ? coz the effect also seems to totally miss the point here appetite stimulation : no, no & no .... Would I buy again ? of course not. And to be honest, I'm so negatively impressed by the results that I start to wonder about the outcome of my next Green Houses grow session based on the Hawaiian Snow. OF course, there's something to be aware : those seeds were freebies Jack Herer given by Linda Seeds. Would they have given me crappy genetics instead of the real Green Houses 's Jack Herer ? That would be stupid as nobody could benefit from counterfeit genetics.๐Ÿ˜“
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Grow Questions
JVGrowers
JVGrowersstarted grow question 6 years ago
2 hours after changing nutrients we have noticed the stains on leaves with some leaves wilting & drooping. As ph,ec & air/water temperatures are within range, oxygenation and circulation are good, what could be the problem:too much UV ? a fan blowing DIRECTLY on the plants? tx
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CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
hey there JVG, so in hydro you need micro, what you're seeing there is magnesium deficiency you can tell from the yellowing between the veins. you need to add micro nutrients or at least cal mag, do that and the plant should recover fairly quickly. give a quick check to your roots see if you need to prune and dead ones . Hope this helps ! ๐Ÿš€
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Astrolavos
Astrolavoscommentedweek 176 years ago
"pains from blinking eyes" ๐Ÿ˜‚ i cried
GreenHouseSeedCo
GreenHouseSeedCocommentedweek 176 years ago
Sticky Icky! Great job thanks for picking Jack Herer
grzesiek
grzesiekcommentedweek 56 years ago
and whats ur EC? i think its overfed .................dont use cal mag with canna....................pointless
grzesiek
grzesiekcommentedweek 26 years ago
is this photoperiod?
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 56 years ago
The end of the vegetative week is finishing and the first "flowering" week just started with the first and only nutrient change will be the addition of the Booster ( not yet Flores, still Vega ). Ec is not easily reached ( we are around 1.3) but ... some stains appeared all of a sudden on 2 of the plants, with some leaves twisting seriously too. We are still investigating what may I have triggered this ( and so fast : 2 hours ago the plants looked normal ) : is it because a fan was blowing directly on the plants ? is it because we also started the UV and it's too strong ? is it an excess of something ? we really dont know. Any ideas ?
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago
@JVGrowers, hey there when you flushed and changed your solution it caused a ph fluctuation and made the lack of micro more urgent. hope this helps ! ๐Ÿš€
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 26 years ago
Yep, this is photoperiod. ๐Ÿ˜Ž Based on multiple tests with autoflowers from various breeders, I decided to stop as those are not good for strong medical use. I am not saying they are always bad or obvious marketing crap, it's just that new growers should taste properly grown photoperiod plants before saying that autos are good. ๐Ÿ˜
grzesiek
grzesiekcommented6 years ago
@JVGrowers,autoflower is a joke to me...................just waste of time..................and effort..................
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 156 years ago
The plants are living their last days ( hopefully ) and some stains are finally appearing ! Hurray ! Now the big question : how long will it take for the milk to propagate to 75% of the heads ? ๐Ÿ˜Ž Time will tell. ๐Ÿ˜‰
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 146 years ago
So, like they used to say in Latin : bis repetitae "Trichomes head under microscope are still clear, let's wait and see"
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 126 years ago
So this is the last week for the nutrients, with flushing starting next week ... Is everything going as expected ? yep, totally. The first microscope pictures show that trichomes are still totally clear.
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 136 years ago
Zooooooo this is the last week before flushing ( flushing will be for 2 weeks ). We are still using a bit of Grow A&B with just water because we feel we might still be 1 week too early for only flushing. Trichomes head under microscope are still clear, let's wait and see.
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 116 years ago
Honestly, the flower development is going extremely well and there's really not much to add. Resin appears, smell gets stronger ... probably another 5 weeks to go ๐Ÿ’ค
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 96 years ago
Unbelievable ! UNBELIEVABLE !!!! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ We are starting week 5 of flowering and the plants are thriving. Ph, EC, air&water day&night temperatures are all under control. It's clear that the relative humidity is way too high (76 % ) but a dehumidifier is on its way and let's hope it's sufficient ๐Ÿ˜ Tomorrow : defoliation of many leaves currently in the shades.
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 76 years ago
So this is the third flowering week and all parameters are within range, except for the EC which is running high at the beginning of the week ( 2.0 - 2.1 ) right. After few days eating from, the EC comes down to safer ranges.
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 56 years ago
EC was low and not stable ( 0.9 to 1.2 ) . The use of CalMag will also help to stabilise the ph and ec better which are instable in case of a soft water ( and we have here a very very soft water ). So we have the same curling leaves as a deficiency, the same yellow spots as a deficiency, the low ec and ph fluctuations which can be a sign that the feeding is not buffered enough and you suggest the plants are being overfed. In addition, as you probably have checked, Green House Seeds officially recommends an EC of 1.5 -1.8 ( www.youtube.com/watch ) May I know on what ground you express the hypothesis that CalMag additive use is pointless with Canna Vega use in hydro ? Is there Calcium & Magnesium in sufficient levels to compensate with a deficient water ? I couldn't find those elements mentioned on the Canna labels ( you might be right, but I need to understand your arguments )
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 56 years ago
Thanks ! we will try to add some magnรฉsium asap ( just ordered Mg and CalMag ). But it's strange as it would mean that the Canna line of nutrients is causing a deficit of Magnesium or is it due to simply a "too soft" water ? ( I'm following their schedule nearly to the letter ).
JVGrowers
JVGrowerscommentedweek 46 years ago
Normally, this will be the last vegetative week. We are a bit behind regarding the growth but we will still start flowering time soon. Stay tuned !