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Started the week off with a flush and water change. I backed off on the nutrients because they are all too dark and showing a little burn this week. Gorilla is getting close. Trichomes are starting to cloud up, calyxes are swelling. Im thinking another week on her. The buds are smaller than what I am used to but they are looking pretty dense and tasty. Aroma is a sweet chocolate lime Zkittlez is making good progress. She appears to be a little leafy and looks like it may have airy buds. I hope I am wrong, she still has some time to swell up. The GSC has towered over her so she isnt getting as much light as she should. Hard to believe but she has a sweet citrus smell that is exactly like popping a handful of skittles in your mouth. The GSC is the late flowerer but she has spread out and become massive. Packing on some nice looking buds at this point. Pretty excited about her. Still a little early to describe her smell, but it is pretty good. She is still the toughest plant if the bunch. Always happy. It has been a fun grow and learning a lot here.
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Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 1
Hahahahahaha @BigDaddyK I've been doing it since 1996. Perlite and only perlite.... some times I'll add a little vermiculite. You must have forgotten about me DaddyK......
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Wicked_Stix, I drain on a sloped table. Each bucket is independent, so I can spread or move them around. I usually run 12 Dutch buckets at a time.
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyK
@Teamdirtbag2,I’ve not forgotten your huge summer Durban poison 😜
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Teamdirtbag2, yeah my first similar setup was in 99. I used to mix half vermiculite but had a lot of overflow issues. Whoever cane up with the piping that just sits in the drain pipe is genius. I used to glue all my drain lines together making the system immobile.
Hybrid
Hybridweek 1
That's really clever lining the buckets with paint strainer bags. That's to keep all the perlite in the bucket, right? Really nice work man. I built a perlite based system once and had to use inline filters to catch bits of perlite - your solution is much more elegant. I am running my first autoflower grow in a RDWC system and it's much harder to get dialled in than with photoperiod plants. My nutrient EC is only 0.5 - 0.6 which is insanely low (2nd week of flower) but seems to be working OK except the plants start drooping around 2hrs prior to lights off. Not sure autoflowers are really suited for full hydroponic growing!
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Hybrid, It is based on 500 ppm scale using RO water
Hybrid
Hybrid
@Wicked_Stix, Sorry, I meant to ask which PPM scale do those numbers relate to? I can measure in CF, EC, PPM 500, PPM 700 cheers!
Hybrid
Hybrid
@Wicked_Stix, Nice - thanks for the nutrient advice. Genuinely useful, cheers man.
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BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKweek 1
Good luck , I’ve never seen it grown in pure perlite , take care with the rock wool and stem rot 👍
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@BigDaddyK, I will try them. Thanks
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyK
@Wicked_Stix,I use root it cubes , they are more spongy
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@BigDaddyK, Do you have a suggestion for a medium that is better to start seeds in than rockwool? I am not up on a lot of the new stuff out there these days.
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 1
Good luck with your Zkittlez, Gorilla Glue, and Girl Scout Cookies and welcome to Grow Diaries! Enjoy growing faster! 😀
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
@Wicked_Stix, Generally speaking, autos can start flowering anywhere between 4 and 6 weeks, I wouldn't worry too much at this point, but let us know how it goes from here!
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Fast_Buds, would like some advice on my grow please. All of my girls showed pistils between day 21 and 26. They are not hitting flower though. On day 35 now.They have been under 24 hr light from the start. Do you think this is why they are not flowering? Would you recommend cutting the light back or stick with 24? If so, to 20 hrs? 18 hrs? Thanks
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Fast_Buds, Thanks! I look forward to trying out many more of your strains.
blendmedmedman
blendmedmedmanweek 5
nice im hoping the seeds will be easy to make
blendmedmedman
blendmedmedman
@Wicked_Stix, yeah that sounds good. I tried this before but don't think I sprayed long enough, the branch was all weird looking. im going to try the sensi skunk auto and see how it goes, making auto seeds should not be too hard, ill let you know when I start the spray, maybe 2 weeks? thanks for the info. im hoping for the best for both of us
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@blendmedmedman, yeah the branch I am spraying does not like it but we will see what happens. Will be fun to cross the fastbuds gorilla with the zkittles or the gsc and see what happens.
starphish
starphishweek 5
I'm curious what you're 1000watt is pulling from the wall? is it the roleadro galaxy hydro on Amazon for less than 100? Cheers looking wonderful. I started on buckets so Im a bit nostalgic
starphish
starphish
@Wicked_Stix, No worries I appreciate the quick answer. I'm following this technology like a hawk. I have two of the 300 watts from a year ago that are still performing great.
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@starphish, yes it is the $100 on amazon. The full spectrum with uv and ir. I have not been able to test the wattage myself, but have seen a couple tests on it showing 240 watts at the wall. Thanks for stopping by!
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 1
My perlite Brother 👊😎.... I never recycle water. I love the set up. Good luck.... I love perlite 😍 I also run at about 6.5 ph.
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Wicked_Stix, I don't understand why more people don't... I've almost always get great results.
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Teamdirtbag2, I think everyone should do it that way! Haha
YetiGrowth
YetiGrowthweek 5
Your Ladies are looking absolutely great, loving their environment. I can learn loads from you, will keep following thanx!!
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 4
Hey man, your girls look great! You can tell you have done this a few times and you got the nutes dialed in pretty well. Mine are doing okay, check 'em out and let me know what you think. They're a week or so behind yours. Peace and happy gardening bro
Sandman
Sandmanweek 15
Now you’ve got me itching to give GSC a try! Great journal, keep it up man. If I ever decide to go hydro, your system would be my inspiration!
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@mr_green_thumb_ottawa, cool I really like the GSC! I am growing another one now. hope it turns out as good as the last one. Good luck with yours. I will check them out.
mr_green_thumb_ottawa
mr_green_thumb_ottawa
@Wicked_Stix,gsc is one of the best to grow and potency in my opinion i have 35 clone done already soon be posted on my grow after im done grape snow train
Sandman
Sandman
@Wicked_Stix, autos intimidate the hell out of me haha. I’m gonna need the tolerance for mistakes that photos have. And I sort of want to try to keep all my plants (or a clone of them) alive and in veg for as long as I can for some genetic play someday.
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HempnainteZ
HempnainteZweek 1
Wow! barley noticed ur pump'n per. or ver. run off back into ur grow like it was hydroponic'z (RDWC)! R u stayn on top off mineralz? If u think about it! It'z kinda like using RO water minus solids! 🤔 That'z a trip, im interested to see were this goes nice I'll stay posted!
HempnainteZ
HempnainteZ
@Wicked_Stix, U no whats up! Keep up the good stoney Im here if u need me!
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@grower_not_shower, Thanks! I really appreciate the info. I agree that 4 will probably be a too much for the space. I would only run 2 photos. I figured it would be better to have too many rather than not enough. I might end up moving 2 if they get too crowded. I have a little room to expand if I set my reservoir under the plants. Just prefer easy access to it.
grower_not_shower
grower_not_shower
@Wicked_Stix, I grew autos two times and used this schedule https://www.growweedeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Recirculating-Nutrient-Schedule-custom.jpg Didn't have any problems/nute burns. Do you think your space is big enough for the canopy of 4 plants? If they are good genetics, in those big buckets, two of those could fill the space.
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Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 7
I know what your going through, one of my Hempy's just topped 45 inches and is just about as wide. I'll get it under the big light as I harvest some of the others. Good luck with the expansion. Peace
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@ThatoneAKguy, This is my first auto grow. I expected them to flower at 3 or 4 weeks. I definitely would have done a lot more training if I knew they were going to veg for 6 to 8 weeks. It has been a learning experience. I will be doing a lot more training on my next auto run. Yours looks like she is going to put off some nice colas. Thanks for checking it out!
ThatoneAKguy
ThatoneAKguy
@Wicked_Stix, look at my Moby Dick xxl in pre flower. She is 3” at 3 weeks at best. I use crazy LST on them and at pre flower I just let them do their thing and raise the lights. I should have 8 good kola locations on her and hope it turns out for the best after hyper stressing a couple of the branches by accident. My lights in the budget tent are SUPER cheap pieces of junk too. I play to move my G8 900 into this tent and get rid of my 400 HPS for some HLG quantum 304 boards.
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Smowkabowl, Yeah it is getting pretty rough. I see all these auto grows with nice compact plants but you and I are stuck trying to keep them contained. Im going to give it one more shot with my six shooters after this and I may be going back to photoperiods. I am not moving any faster than I would with them.
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 11
Man, your garden is looking so nice! I think I'm going to flush my garden this week. They are starting to fade and I've got some amber. The thing I've noticed as the plants are finishing up is they are not as colorful growing hydro rather than organic. I got some purple and other colors, just not as spectacular. Peace
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowl
@Wicked_Stix, I gave 'em the last feeding today and will start flushing tomorrow. As far as my next grow, I'm not sure yet. I am going to take a short break, evaluate techniques and come up with a plan going forward and I have to go out of town in May and will start again in June. Also, I'm going to do a couple in the great outdoors. I just got some FastBuds Lemon AK, Zkittles, Tangie and WestCoast OG. I also received some RQS Royal Cookies Auto as a freebie. So, I got some great choices and I'm leaning toward Lemon AK and Zkittles indoor and some Cookies and Kush outdoors. We'll see. Peace
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Smowkabowl, I just checked yours out and looks like they are doing great. They will usually start to get more colorful a few days into flushing. I dont like seeing a lot of amber on mine so I start the flush as soon as I see some as long as they are mostly cloudy. Im excited to taste all these buds! I was going to run my six shooters next but got ahold of some fire clones that will be going in the buckets soon. What do you have planned after these?
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 10
@Wicked_Stix, your garden is looking great. Nice and frosty. BTW, I am getting close to the end with my buckets and was thinking about the flush. When is the best time to start? I was thinking about 5 days of pH'd RO water should do it, considering I water them every day. What do you think? Peace
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowl
@Wicked_Stix, thanks. That's just what I needed to know. I'llk make sure I have plenty of RO water ready to go. Peace
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Smowkabowl, I try to run flush 4 times a day for about a week on mine but have done 4 or 5 days and it seems to clean them up pretty good. On your first day of flush it is good to run about 5 gallons through to wash out any salt and mineral build up on the roots. You dont have to worry about overwatering like soil. You can flush them a few times a day of you want
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 1
Talk about an interesting system. Do you not have pH fluctuations by aerating your water? Looks like I could learn a few things from your experience. I'll be tagging along if you don't mind. Your FastBuds look good for their age. They should really start taking off this week once they get their roots going. Check out some of my other diaries, I got some FastBuds going on 4 weeks in coco. Peace
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowl
@Wicked_Stix, interesting, very interesting. Peace
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Smowkabowl, Yeah the ph is really the only thing I have to monitor on the system. I usually have to bring it down a little every 3 or 4 days. The GH nutrients seem to buffer it better as I increase the ppm. But a little ph increase isn't always a bad thing. The plants ability to process cal and mag is better at a ph of 7 than 5.5. So it really doesn't hurt to let it climb a little. I will be keeping up with your grows also. Good luck!
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 1
i like your recirculation system bro, did you make it yourself?
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@Wicked_Stix, 🙏 thanks man, very interesting
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@CRiSPrGrow, Yes I built it on a pretty small budget. Running a cheap aquarium powerhead pump and air pump. It is minimal maintainence. I like them. I added a little more details on the setup.
BarrieGrower
BarrieGrowerweek 15
NICE! Stacked up with strains. They are on my list to grow. Looking frosty! 👊👍👊
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@BarrieGrower, you have to try the GSC and the gorilla glue. You won't be disappointed. I just took advantage of their 5+5 promo and got 10 of each coming. I'm very happy with fastbuds
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 8
EC pens break so easily, even if you put them into the solution just slightly too deep. always keep a bunch of them around just in case... sometimes the shop will swap them out for you if you put on some doe eyes lol
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@CRiSPrGrow, I am going to order 4 or 5 of them next time. Thanks
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 7
nice ladybug sentinels , i like that ! no garbage neem spray no garbage pesticides, all natural ! 🚀
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@CRiSPrGrow, I have had a couple aphid outbreaks in the past and I would much rather stay ahead of them any way I can. I just dont like spraying anything on my plants. Idk why but never liked even foliar feeding. Thanks for checking it out!
Smowkabowl
Smowkabowlweek 6
Very nice! How do you keep 'em so short? Mine is now 31 inches. Peace
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Smowkabowl, The 24 hour light I had on them and light distance helps keep the nodes tight. I topped them and I tie down any branch that tries to take off. I try to save all the stretching room I can for flowering. I am out of space for them to spread out more at this point though. Just have to let them go up now. I thought these autos would stay small or I would have just ran 2 in the space that I have. Its pretty overcrowded.