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Week 12
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45
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smurgrow smurgrow
6 years ago
Starting this week early to keep track of trichome development on the final sour diesel (now on day80). Harvested one plant on Sunday and got 58g wet weight out of it. Both images are taken with the microscope of the last (taller plant). Trichomes on this one are milky but not showing any signs of amber yet. will monitor carefully. Flushing this one hard and will update regularly leading up to harvest.
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smurgrow
smurgrowstarted grow question 6 years ago
If auto flowering plants suffer a period of stunted growth (eg due to overwatering), does that extend the veg phase or do they still flower at the normal time based on growth of the plant. i think i lost 10-14days - is this hopeless?
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Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi greetings to Capetown, and congrats to legalization. Ok back to your plants. i think your growing medium is the problem of your grow, i looked through your diary and your girls looking from beginning very limy. There are two Possible reasons. Your medium got the wron g ph so your plant cant get the nutrients in the soil. Second: the medium is " to hot" that means is to rich in everything. so my recommondation is.... get an ph and Ec meter an measure the runoff of your soil.I think you plant wil stay small. But check ph and ec of you growingmedium to have a result for the coming grows. The choice of the soil and the genetics is very important in growing automatics. You have only a small time to grow and evrything got to be perfect. feel free to look into my diary " cookies for me" there you sfind a lot of nice reciepes , especially for automatics. Happy growing
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Quexos
Quexosweek 11
Looking good hombre! Both plants are looking choice. If you are seeing amber then its time to chop! You've done a great job scheduling your grow so that your are flushing at the right time. I always start too early or too late.
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, I include whatever wasn't cut off the buds. My photo grow had long stalks. I trimmed them a bit, but I wasn't worried about it. Since I had such a full tent, I had to hang 3 of the plants as whole plants. They didn't get a wet weight. 2 were almost 1m/3ft tall! It's entirely up to you. Some people don't even record wet weight because it includes a lot of stuff that will end up being discarded. I like to have a lot of data. It gives me an idea of the efficiency of my grow.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, will do. but planning to wait until second plant is harvested thursday-ish to post the harvest week. quick question: when measuring wet weight do people include the stems? my plan is to trim and hang the whole plant but dont want to skew ths numbers too much. Thanjs for all your support it is much appreciated!
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, Woot! If you take a wet weight let us know!
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Quexos
Quexosweek 9
Good week of growth! All the plants look really healthy! I like your 12 week harvest window. Keep an eye on those trichomes and bud development though. Some strains will take longer than 12 weeks. The tall plant in your photos does not look as developed as the shorter one. I'd say the taller one might take more time. Whereas the shorter one might be done earlier. That might have an effect on your flushing schedule as well. Don't you love being a new grower!😁
smurgrow
smurgrow
@DinafemSeeds, thanks Mark! Looks like it'll arrive tomorrow. Will upload pics after...
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@smurgrow, You will find a microscope very useful mate. You can buy one very easily and they are inexpensive πŸ‘ Definitely a must have tool for harvesting imo πŸ‘Œ All the best ✌️ Mark..
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@Quexos, mother nature mate πŸ‘ It could be when grown outdoor they take a little longer to enter the bloom stage or it could be when grow outdoor the buds/flowers take longer to mature πŸ‘ It's not a bad thing but in general outdoor grown autos in my experience do take a little longer than indoor πŸ‘Š All the best ✌️ Mark..
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Quexos
Quexosweek 7
Nice buds are starting to form! You'll get a smallish harvest, but you are learning a lot and you can grow autos outdoors all summer! They are pretty quick!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@Quexos, Thank you for the support my friend. Much appreciated πŸ‘ All the best ✌️ Mark..
Quexos
Quexos
@DinafemSeeds, It's easy to help out other growers when they are growing high quality genetics!πŸ‘Œ
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@Quexos, Fantastic comment and we totally agree πŸ‘ Yes, easy mistakes have been made but this will be a learning grow and next time we are confident @smurgrow will do even better πŸ‘ Also, as you stated autos and outdoor you can do multiple crops per season due to the speed πŸ‘Š Thanks for the assist my friend ✌️ All the best Mark..
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 4
You did a lot of thing s right in your grow, choosing smartpots and reduce the watering regime. Its good too, that you put them direct after germination in big pots So you just have to get a proper growmedium
smurgrow
smurgrow
Ah! Thank you this is good feedback. I will not transplant autos again (hopefully wont need to now that i found decent medium). The original soil in the last batch was a disaster. I planted the seeds in peat pots with garden variety potting soil, the planted those in a very amateurish mix of coco, perlite, compost and that same soil. When I transplanted the roots got very limited exposure (took the whole peat pots across). The plastic pots were not draining properly and whole pot was filled with thick mud (that has still not dried 10days later). I'll keep them going as long as possible and post the result here so that hopefully others can learn from my mistakes.Thanks again!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@smurgrow, Personally I think this was an error mate. Autoflowering strains in general do not like bring potted up. Due to the short life cycle they are better suited to be left in one pot (the pot you intend your plant on living it's life cycle out in) Every time those roots get exposed the plant then needs to divert energy to new root growth. When that energy would be better suited going into the young plants growth 😎 Worth keeping in mind for next time mate πŸ‘ Let's see what happens now you have portend up. I still have high hopes πŸ‘Œ Thank you for the diary update mate. Keep them coming πŸ‘Š All the best ✌️ Mark..
smurgrow
smurgrow
Thank you so much for the feedback and advice. I did transplant into a better growmedium that is provided by local hydroponics shop in week 3 (uploaded a pic with the composition). The original mix was bad, and the original pots as well. when i transplanted it was thick mud to bottom if pots. The new diary (Second Batch) was started from scratch with the good medium.I also decided to move some of my plants under a grow light for during the veg stage today. the light is a 85W, 4750 lumen daylight cfl on a 20hour timer.Will review your Cookies diary and others for more lessons. I'm sorry to hear these plants will stay small - fortunately saved some of the seeds so we can try those again to sample the strain.
Quexos
Quexosweek 12
Nice trichome shots this week! You have a little bit to go yet. Any photos of the whole plant? I wouldn't worry if your weights are lower than you anticipated. It takes time to figure out the plant's needs in order to get maximum yield!
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, I don't know. That is a very nice looking plant. The buds are extra frosty, and she looks healthy. I've noticed that Dinafem seeds are very forgiving. I saw those trichome shots!!!πŸ‘Mine came in the mail last week. I've been playing with it and using it on harvested buds. I'll use it for some trichome shots when the time comes.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, thank you! I have very low expectations for this grow due to early problems. Learned so much and the next grows are looking much much better. Got deliverynof the microscope this morning so doing my best impression of a kid in a candy shop 😎
GrowZex
GrowZexweek 11
Huge difference in phenotypes! Cant go wrong with some sour d
GrowZex
GrowZex
@smurgrow, Oh ok that's a total valid point :)
smurgrow
smurgrow
@GrowZex, yeah it's amazing. I'm not entirely sure that phenotype accounts for all the difference due to the amount of stunting these babies experienced early on.
Quexos
Quexosweek 5
Wow, you've gone through some hard knocks in the last 5 weeks! Now that you have your containers, lights, and soil dialed in, has there been any improvement? Your plants should start coming around now that you have provided a good environment for them to prosper. I don't see any evidence of flowering yet. Be patient...and conservative.
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, I'm glad things are looking up. Even if you get a small harvest, you learn a lot about how to grow. Both strains you are growing can get pretty big. Might want to use some LST to keep it in check. Otherwise, grow slow.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, thank you for the feedback! I expected difficulties and it has been a great learning experience. The two sour diesel plants in this grow are now doing well (looking healthy and growing rapidly). One has started showing pistils on tuesday, the other nothing yet. I think these may end up too small to deliver much harvest. But the other grow is looking great from day1 and starting a separate white widow auto grow to keep that strain in circulation.
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 2
Thanks Mark! thinking of adding a some uk cheese autos end of feb, keen to see if it's possible to do 3 harvests outdoor per year in this climate (with autos)
smurgrow
smurgrow
@DinafemSeeds, thanks for the feedback. i'm a bit worried about the current batch so any input would be much appreciated
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@smurgrow, We to would like to see how many harvests you Can get in your climate to mate πŸ‘ Very cool experiment 😎 one we are watching with great interest πŸ‘Œ All the best ✌️ Mark..
Denzul
Denzulweek 11
Ladies looking lovely! Keep doing what your doing and best of luck the rest of the way.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Denzul, Thank you!
Quexos
Quexosweek 12
Woot! Gratz! πŸ™πŸ™πŸ‘Œ I really liked your harvest summary. There is a ton of fantastic insights for the new grower.
Quexos
Quexosweek 10
Man, that little one you could use as a club to defend yourself! Both plants looking great!
Quexos
Quexosweek 8
Looking good this week! Everything looks healthy and robust. Those buds are going to keep developing. You will be very happy by the time you harvest this plant.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 7
Goodness I Love Outdoor! Its fun seeing some auto O.D i want to try a few this summer. My big photoperiods take about 28 weeks, I could do like 3 runs of autos in that time.
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 12
Thanks Quexos!
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 11
Thanks, that helps! will certainly track both wet and dry weight. There is no such thing as too much data!
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 3
Ok so paid some school fees in week 3. Growth was stunted due to over watering. Transplanter into felt pots with freedom farms premium classic grow medium. Reducing water supply to 30ml per day
Quexos
Quexosweek 6
Great recovery! Try to get them in full sun for as long as possible. Good idea supplementing sunlight with the veg light. There is no way you are going to get 20 hours of sunlight right now and weak light is better than no light. Maybe you can figure out a schedule where the veg lights are used like dawn and dusk. You could also run your autos at 18 hours.
smurgrow
smurgrow
@Quexos, Thank you! The way I was getting 20hours was by combing sunlight with veg lights at night. I did receive a gift of a 400W HPS bloom lamp and should be able to get ballast for it in a day or two, so soon should be able to give these girls the boost they need. Also found a space that gives me 2hours extra direct sun. I was amazed to see how much difference extra light makes (see this weeks update to the second batch diary where i compare same seeds under LED vs mine gettimg combo of sunlight and CFL)
BedroomGrower
BedroomGrowerweek 3
Good Luck with your grow! πŸ˜‰
smurgrow
smurgrow
@BedroomGrower, thanks and same to you!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedsweek 12
Another successful AutoDinafem harvest with our Auto Sour Diesel πŸ‘πŸ‘ Well done my friend and thank you for the great diary πŸ‘ Now it's time to enjoy your hard work πŸ‘Œ All the best ✌️ Mark..
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 12
Beautifull choice on that Sour Diesel Autoflowering.