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I am attempting an identical grow to my first with the knowledge and experience gained during the last 3 months. I made a few adjustments to the cabinet to allow for more consistency and easier maintenance. I have a full spectrum LED over top both plants for the Veg stage this time, as I only added a second, more powerful red LED over both last time during the flowering stage. Air temp and water temp will be more in the optimal zone with the heat from the light. During this polar vortex, humidity levels are way down but should be better next week. I used bottle spring water to start, and will use carbon filtered tap water from this point on. No nutrients yet but pH'd to 5.8. The ppm of the tap water is ~200. My plan is to add 100ppm to the solution each week, starting in week 3, so by week 5, the solution will be 500ppm, week 6 - 600ppm and so on. That schedule should put me at about half of the recommended dosage (GH Maxigro & MaxiBloom) for the majority of the grow. Through 11 days since soaking the seeds and I'm already seeing improvements from the first grow. It's funny how the path these two are taking so far are nearly identical to the first grow. They are about a day faster through each phase so far, but as before, the White Widow is about a day faster. The stem growth is identical on both as well, with the WW stretching a bit and the NL staying down in. The roots are now touching the basin water, so I will keep the water level just shy of the net pots going forward. At this pace, I may be able to start some gentle LST by next week.
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bmvape
bmvapestarted grow question 6 years ago
This is my second grow using the same basin for two plants, and maybe it's just a coincidence, but one plant seems to do better than the other. When their roots mingle, can one steal nutrients from the other? Should the nutrient levels be higher for two plants?
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 6 years ago
You have 2 cannabis strains , you will have 2 way to grow and 2 way to absorb feeding. When you'r working with 2 strain in the sme bucket it happening frequently , take a look at @Tazard grows and you will see that each time he is growing 2 strain in the same bucket he have issue with one of them. The Ec level tolerance , the better ph and many others aspects will be different
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Bigface
Bigfacecommentedweek 16 years ago
Anyway who are you hiding from? The parents, flat mates, or the law? Sod them all, telling you, an adult you can't consume fine herbal products that you cultivated yourself with love, at no harm to anyone else.. shame on them :-) keep up the good work brother. I have to be stealth to, just on a larger scale, gotta give them boys in blue something to do ;-) bloody good luck to them though muaaah aaah ahah haha ha 🤠
Bigface
Bigfacecommentedweek 16 years ago
Hey there! This is cool! Nice micro DWC setup, I wonder what yield you can achieve in there, should be great fun finding out 😄 Oh and nice strain choice... back to the 90's All the best with this grow, I have my eyes peeled Regards Bigface
bmvape
bmvapecommented6 years ago
@Bigface, I like these ideas! However, my container options are extremely limited. Hard to find containers that are durable and have dimensions that I need. Also, anything outside the box would compromise my stealth! I'm always thinking of ways to improve. Maybe I could squeeze a small shelf above the light inside?
Bigface
Bigfacecommented6 years ago
@bmvape, if you fancy a wee upgrade, and funds allow... in my opinion the best two things you could do to benefit this grow and make your life much easier would be... 1) attach a flexitank or similar 'tank', to you reservoir, using a float valve($6), keeping the tank above the reservoir, this will allow your reservoir to automatically top itself up from the larger 'reserve' reservoir. The flexitank would be obviously outside the tiny grow space and be easier to keep cool :-). Your fluctuations will be much more in check.. and saves you worrying about having to manually top the res up daily, if not twice a day come full flower mode! ;-) 2) buy a cheap ro water system($60/£45) to make your own reverse osmosis water.. which will allow you to put more of the good stuff in your DWC as the base EC of spring water is like 0.2. Plus you can acheive a great flush using r.o water, and you'll simply have an easier time of things and get great results.. assuming that all important environment stays in check! ;-) Smash it mate!
Bigface
Bigfacecommented6 years ago
@bmvape, I checked your last run out.. I get the feeling you will smash that one out the park mate! Now you know how to keep Ph in check, ensuring you put notes in 1st, THEN ph down(usually) to the sweet spot of 5.7-5.8! Don't over do then nutrients start at 0.3EC and work up each week or so. Try to top up the res daily back to it original level, this will help keep fluctuations in check, as your res is so tiny, fluctuations in temp, ph and etc can be dramatic rather quickly
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autoscommentedweek 16 years ago
Looks Awesome .... Good Luck also, currently growing the same strain but from Vision Seeds.
Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autoscommented6 years ago
@bmvape, Thanks Bro ... I'll be doing the same !!!
bmvape
bmvapecommented6 years ago
@Mr_Weeds_Autos, thanks! I'll keep an eye on your grow so we can compare outcomes.
Bigface
Bigfacecommentedweek 16 years ago
Anyway who are you hiding from? The parents, flat mates, or the law? Sod them all, telling you, an adult you can't consume fine herbal products that you cultivated yourself with love, at no harm to anyone else.. shame on them :-) keep up the good work brother. I have to be stealth to, just on a larger scale, gotta give them boys in blue something to do ;-) bloody good luck to them though muaaah aaah ahah haha ha 🤠
bmvape
bmvapecommentedweek 26 years ago
Haha.. the wife is not a fan, but times are changing. Its a healthier alternative to the booze! Maybe she'll come around.
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixcommentedweek 36 years ago
I am on day 27 on my first auto grow and I am at 500 ppm since day 21. Will be bumping up to 550+ in 2 days. I am using gh maxi nutrients also. I don't think overfeeding is your problem. Just from your pics I would suspect either heat is the issue or lack of oxygen to the roots. I would also switch to RO water so you know exactly what you are putting in your reservoir. Best of luck with the rest of your grow!
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixcommented6 years ago
@bmvape, I use a 4 stage filter that was about $50 on ebay. It gives me 10 to 15 ppm water. There is no need for one of the more expensive ones just fyi
bmvape
bmvapecommented6 years ago
@Wicked_Stix, thanks for the input! I think I can rule out heat as the temps have been consistent through this and my prior grow. You might be right about the oxygen though. My airstone did shift and was only half in the water for a few hours. I may make the investment at some point to RO water. Maybe when my grows don't need to be stealthy and I can have a bigger grow space! Good luck with your grow, I'll be watching!
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billcommentedweek 136 years ago
Despite the problems you had during your veg stage ( leaf curling and discolouration ) etc..... You have managed to grow some nice big buds. With lots of shine. 💪🏽🤩👍🏼. My next grow about to start is Northern Lights auto from Nirvana seed bank. So I shall be keeping an eye on your outcome. 👍🏻
bmvape
bmvapecommented6 years ago
@Puffer_Bill, the veg stage has been tricky for me on both grows, but I can't complain about how things are looking. I wish I would have just grown two Northern Lights, with how the LST worked out. It would have looked like a mini corn field of buds in the whole cabinet. I'll be watching your next grow! Thanks for checking out mine 👊
growdoctordc
growdoctordccommentedweek 106 years ago
@OutForReal As usual, your analysis was spot on, friend. @bmvape. I laughed out LOUD thanks. WHO HASN’T?!?!!!
OutForReal
OutForRealcommented6 years ago
@growdoctordc, Thank you very much my friend 😁✌️ I always try to answers what seems most logical to me ! Being a former cannabis forum Ryder is helping a lot to make a link between a grower question and another grower who have the same issue 😁
Bigface
Bigfacecommentedweek 16 years ago
If you train those two plant early as possible keep them spread wide and low, by bending the leading top and tying her down lower than the other branches, to give them all a chance to become 'tops' I appreciate you may not want to top them as they are Autoflower, and may detriment yield as they don't have the time to bounce back from topping and hard training before they want to start putting out flowers. So yeah best if you can manipulate them softly so as to spread the canopy and fill your space out before they shoot up vertical! Although I'd recommend trimming away the very lower budsites and leaves, to allow that bit more energy to be used on the top buds. Then a light defoliation, around a week into budsites appearing, just to allow better light to mid/lower buds! Follow these tips and hopefully you'll be in for a big surprise, when you get the digital scales out in a few weeks ;-) All the best Bigface
bmvape
bmvapecommented6 years ago
@Bigface, I should be able to start LST this week. I still get nervous about trimming! I don't want to chop off something that could be valuable. Maybe once I get to that point you could recommend what to chop!
Bigface
Bigfacecommentedweek 16 years ago
Another huge improvement could be made relatively cheaply, by placing a mister/fogger in the cabinet, in order to up the relative-humidity, during this seedling early veg stage especially. If you can aim for around 23-24c air temp @60-70 % humidity.. you'll be right in the sweet spot on the Vapour Pressure Defecit chart, and will see a boost in grow rates for sure ;-)
bmvape
bmvapecommented6 years ago
@Bigface, I have a humidifier that I can place right outside the intake fan on the outside. Now that the plants have decent size leaves, I may have to turn that on. Its been so dry here!
GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoecommentedweek 156 years ago
Big and beautiful buds, looking delicious! 👍🏻
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billcommentedweek 146 years ago
Nice buds. 😎👊🏼
BarrieGrower
BarrieGrowercommentedweek 136 years ago
Nice buds, great grow!
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBobcommentedweek 126 years ago
Nice work
Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autoscommentedweek 116 years ago
Both are looking really good...
Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyycommentedweek 86 years ago
The White widow is looking great!! Hopfully the NL will come around👍 If you have any other ? let me know an I will see if i can be of service lol Good luck Happy Growing!😎
GreasyLuigi
GreasyLuigicommentedweek 66 years ago
Nice strains, Im also growing them both :)