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Sauswaus Sauswaus
6 years ago
- April 24th, Day 30 - pH meter just came in with the mail which is one day earlier than expected. Calibrated and took measurements right away. My tapwater measures at a 8.2 pH, which is even higher than I expected. What's confusing me is that the soil measures at 6.2-6.9. To be sure I flushed two of the pots for more measurements. - Runoff water flushed with the 8.2 pH tap water I've been giving them from the start: pH 6 - 6.7 differing between pots. - Runoff water flushed with tap water corrected to pH 6.0: pH 5.9 - 6.1 This had me wondering if - just like the Royal Mix I'll be using - the Pokon Seed & Cutting soil is self-regulating organic soil. Couldn't find the answer to this anywhere so I'm assuming the answer is no. Soil pH should be at 5.2-6.2 though. What I did find out is that it has nutrients in it for 2 months so maybe that's why my LSD isn't doing too well. Might try not adding Alga Grow anymore, just Power Roots. So now I have a lot more data but I don't really know what to make of it. Bonzai: I was also doing a side project for fun, shaping an unfeminised trash seed I didn't know much about into a bonzai. Shaping was going fine, but today noticed that it was showing male pre-flower so I cut it down. Might try again and keep a separate diary for it. - April 23rd, Day 29 - We've had great weather the last couple of days. Plants are starting to look fuller but they are not growing much in hight. As I mentioned last week I've had to postpone the purchase of a pH meter but I have one coming in the mail this Thursday. I've checked online for data on my local tabwater and the pH should be at 7,03 - 7,74 which I assume is what's causing me problems. Starting Thursday I'll be adjusting the pH of my water, but I am not sure if I can bring it to 6.0 straight away or if I should do it in steps of say 0.2 I'll be using Plagron Royal Mix as soil for my final pots. With this soil I should not have to control the pH of my water but I probably will just to be sure after this bad start. Autoflowers: - CBD Lemon Potion Showing its first pistils. It's still only 10cm tall and I expected this to take another week. - Tangerine Dream Not showing any pistils yet. I was a bit worried about this one at first but it's looking quite healthy now. When I germinated the Autoflowers late March I realized this was pretty early for Autoflowers in the Dutch climate, but I did this on purpose to at least have a small harvest somewhere around early June. I'll be germinating two more seeds around the time I'm harvesting my Autoflowers for a second harvest. I still have one seed of both Critical Kush Auto, Blue Mammoth Auto and Malana Bomb Auto from Barney's Farm. Fotoperiod: - Liberty Haze Has been ahead of the rest from the start, but it's really starting to show now. - Laughing Buddha Did seem kind of fragile at first, but is looking alright now. - LSD Has been looking kind of weak from the beginning. Since week 2 it has been bending over under its own weight and bending almost 45° in a soft breeze. Weak root base? When I checked on it and took pictures this morning it had turned to a pale shade of green and was showing burnt tips on the lower leafs. Just came home and it doesn't look much better.
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Sauswaus
Sauswausstarted grow question 6 years ago
Cant find pH section. Leaf edges are burnt. Working on a student budget, had to postpone buying pH meter. Local tabwater is 7,03 - 7,74 according to internet. Ill be adjusting pH starting Thursday. Can I go to 6.0 straight away or should I go down in steps of say 0.2 to adapt
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Leaves. Edges burnt
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Waters
Watersanswered grow question 6 years ago
Go straight down man, no need to do it gradually. You can also use baking Sosa to raise ph and lemon juice to lower it.
Sauswaus
Sauswausstarted grow question 6 years ago
Lower two sets of fan leaves have gone yellow, leaves on internodes in between haven't changed colour. Not sure what's causing this. Nutes? (3-4 more weeks of time released nutes in soil) Too much water? Did water a bit extra because I wasn't going to be home for a couple of days
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Silasbotwin
Silasbotwinanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey bro! Looks like Nitrogen diffiency my friend, Nitrogen is mobile so it will gradually move up the plant from bottom to top.. You don't want this, especially in veg. Try to raise your N or use some Bio bizz fish mix or garlic beast as a foliar spray, 2ml per litre is good. A couple of times should do the trick. Keep your Ph between 6.3 and 6.8. Water a couple of times with water at Ph 6.5. Then go back to your normal nute schedule. Only water your plants when dry. You'll be fine 😊 Happy growing 😎🌱 Silas
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JohnnyBlaz3
JohnnyBlaz3week 1
good luck with the grow! have some buddha growing now myself.
TC_Connoisseur
TC_Connoisseurweek 4
Hey @Sauswaus, I just wanted to weigh in real quickly on that leaf deformation and tip burning, I have seen similar in my grows before and it came down to pH issues so I would wonder what your pH of your water and run-off is, since they are such small containers it should be easy to check and adjust the pH. I would start with a flush, then pH adjustment flush, then followed by a pH adjusted nutrient application...hopefully your soil drains well if not your may want to be careful on flooding the root zone that heavily. Also I've found a foliar spray of seaweed/kelp extract is always welcome to any plant showing signs of stress.
Sauswaus
Sauswaus
@TC_Connoisseur, Thanks again for an extensive reply. It's a lot of information to take in as I am completely new to nutrients, pH and all that, but the main reason I enjoy growing is because there is so much to read up on and learn about so I will definitely check out your suggested bonus reading. I am also positive that my tap water does not contain any Chlorine. The Netherlands has very strict rules on the quality of our tap water.
TC_Connoisseur
TC_Connoisseur
@Sauswaus, 8.2pH is pretty high for tap water, but I have no idea what your source is as we are definitely on different continents. Also a sticking point here if you are planning to use tap water and a soil with microbes to balance pH you will need to be very sure there is no Chlorine or Chloramine in your water, they will destroy your microbes that you believe are balancing your pH. Chlorine is easy to use a cheap aquarium air pump and stone for 24 hours and volatilize off, Chloramine requires a carbon filter to remove. The USA has mostly moved to chloramine so we have to carbon filter here. Now to address your questions, here is what I see. - Incoming water 8.2, outgoing water 6.0-6.7. Your water seems to not be heavily buffered (Low Total Alkalinity) or your soil is well buffered, either way your soil is doing most of the work for you and you should continue to adjust each time as you are, this will help but take a few waterings to build a buffer in the soil. I (almost) always pre-flush/buffer my soil a week before planting/transplanting and regardless of how much I trust the soil manufacture to do their jobs right. - Soil 6.2-6.9, adjusted water input 6.0, water out 5.9-6.1 I would suspect the reason for the pH drop in the run-off is due to water soluble nitrogen running off, nitrogen is potentially acidic and could account for that minor drop especially if your water lacks significant buffer, it could also be calcium(buffer) in your water getting bound into the soil. If you are measuring your soil pH by from the top half only you may be getting a higher portion of that calcium or other buffer from the water that is binding to the top layers as it runs through and the more water soluble nitrogen is hanging out lower in the soil. Now all of that said, I believe now that you have a meter and are on the right track with adjusting your pH you should be fine so keep doing what your are now doing. I also always suggest some Kelp/Seaweed extract in a Foliar Spray or even root drench also to give a quick shot of micro nutrients whenever a plant shows any stress. Also find out if you have Chlorine/Chloramine in you water, if you do you need to eliminate this before getting good organic buffering results, otherwise sticking to bottled liquid nutrients with pH up and down is the better route. Some Bonus Reading, If you have time and really love complex systems google both "soil ph and nutrient availability" to see what nutrients are most available, and also "Mulder's Chart" which gives each nutrients antagonistic and synergistic effects on each other...you'll probably hate trying to make sense of this but its good to reference as I never assume one issue is the cause of everything, in your case your pH is the big problem I saw but as you find out more it may end up being a nutrient that the soil is lacking or even one that is too high leading to a lock out situation at your particular pH. Everything is connected and the more data points you have the better your assumptions and corrections will be.
Sauswaus
Sauswaus
@TC_Connoisseur, Here is a short version of my latest update: pH meter just came in with the mail. Calibrated and took measurements right away. My tapwater measures at a 8.2 pH, which is even higher than I expected. What's confusing me is that the soil measures at 6.2-6.9. Flushed the pots for more measurements. - Runoff water flushed with the 8.2 pH tap water I've been giving them from the start: pH 6 - 6.7 differing between pots. - Runoff water flushed with tap water corrected to pH 6.0: pH 5.9 - 6.1 Now I'm wondering if - just like the Royal Mix I'll be using - the Pokon Seed & Cutting soil is self-regulating organic soil. Couldn't find the answer to this anywhere so I'm assuming the answer is no. Soil pH should be at 5.2-6.2 from the bag though. Any ideas? I have no idea what to make of this.
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GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoeweek 8
Great pictures, detailed comment - nice diary untill now! 👍🏻💚
Wachsemilian
Wachsemilianweek 5
looks nice dude 😎keep up the great work ...💪have a good one ,till next week
GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoeweek 4
The little deformities don't really matter I think. Transplant your ladys in some bigger pots and their will be fine. Your grow is looking pretty good until now. Keep Growing! 👍
G4NJAG4NG
G4NJAG4NGweek 2
Laughing Buddha is a great strain to grow but can be sensitive on the nutes so take it easy at the start, I started feeding Buddha after couple of weeks with very small amounts 1ml/l of micro 1ml/l grow and 1ml/l calmag and even on week 10 I was keeping the feed small and she loved it. A good plus is that she is quite resilient to cold weather, has survived the many days of low temps around 15-16 degrees Celsius indoors, haven't tested outdoor yet 👌 hopefully she will make good progress for you, good luck!! She will be worth the wait 😁
DEVILSHARVESTER666
DEVILSHARVESTER666week 1
Can't wait to see how your grow pans out. These are three strains I also wanna grow! ✊😈
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 16
Spectacular my dude.