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Sauswaus Sauswaus
5 years ago
I have not updated for about two months. Been super busy with uni finals etc, but it's time to pick this up again. Tangerine Dream and CBD Lemon Potion harvest was somewhere around June 10th. Very disappointing yield, expected to at least get something decent from the Tangerine Dream, but buds were not compact at all and effect was weak. To be fair this was a bit of an experiment, growing autoflowers in a windowsill in the Dutch climate during May-June so I won't blame it on the seeds or strains. Let's just say the experiment failed. I'll add pictures of previous weeks to week 15. Liberty Haze and Laughing Buddha are still going strong and are outside fulltime now in 52L root bags. Weather has been pretty rainy the last couple of days and nights are pretty cold, going around 13-15°C (55-59°F) but they will just have to put up with it. A friend of mine had some left over LED grow lights so I put the Laughing Buddha under those for about 2 weeks right as I moved the Liberty Haze outside. Liberty started growing like crazy as the weather was pretty great but Laughing Buddha didn't really grow much at all so I moved her outside after just under two weeks. She started growing right after that but is still short and has pretty thin branches, especially compared to the Liberty Haze. It's kind of hard to see in the pictures, but the Laughing Buddha doesn't seem to root very well in it's bigger pot. You can still clearly see the older soil from the 3L pot separating from the rest of the soil. I've put a bunch of soil on top to cover the gap, but it keeps coming back somehow. Figured it might be because I was moving her around to keep her in full sunlight but I've kept her in one spot for at least 2 weeks now and I can stil see the cracks in the soil. Topped Liberty Haze on 11th of July at 85 CM because she is about to grow over the fence that's keeping her out of sight of the rest of my neighbourhood. Growing cannabis isn't illegal here as long as I have 5 plants or fewer (I have 2) but if some grumpy neighbour calls about the smell or whatever, police will still remove and destroy the plants. Smell is getting stronger now, you can smell it as soon as you walk onto the roof terrace. I have done quite a bit of defoliation on the Libert Haze because the fan leaves were huge and I wanted better lighting and airflow because temps can get pretty high on my roof terrace. Also took some clones. I won't be using them as I only grow outdoor so I only have one grow per year but I wanted to see if I could make them root.
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Grow Questions
Sauswaus
Sauswausstarted grow question 6 years ago
Cant find pH section. Leaf edges are burnt. Working on a student budget, had to postpone buying pH meter. Local tabwater is 7,03 - 7,74 according to internet. Ill be adjusting pH starting Thursday. Can I go to 6.0 straight away or should I go down in steps of say 0.2 to adapt
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Leaves. Edges burnt
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Waters
Watersanswered grow question 6 years ago
Go straight down man, no need to do it gradually. You can also use baking Sosa to raise ph and lemon juice to lower it.
Sauswaus
Sauswausstarted grow question 6 years ago
Lower two sets of fan leaves have gone yellow, leaves on internodes in between haven't changed colour. Not sure what's causing this. Nutes? (3-4 more weeks of time released nutes in soil) Too much water? Did water a bit extra because I wasn't going to be home for a couple of days
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Silasbotwin
Silasbotwinanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey bro! Looks like Nitrogen diffiency my friend, Nitrogen is mobile so it will gradually move up the plant from bottom to top.. You don't want this, especially in veg. Try to raise your N or use some Bio bizz fish mix or garlic beast as a foliar spray, 2ml per litre is good. A couple of times should do the trick. Keep your Ph between 6.3 and 6.8. Water a couple of times with water at Ph 6.5. Then go back to your normal nute schedule. Only water your plants when dry. You'll be fine 😊 Happy growing 😎🌱 Silas
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JohnnyBlaz3
JohnnyBlaz3commentedweek 16 years ago
good luck with the grow! have some buddha growing now myself.
TC_Connoisseur
TC_Connoisseurcommentedweek 46 years ago
Hey @Sauswaus, I just wanted to weigh in real quickly on that leaf deformation and tip burning, I have seen similar in my grows before and it came down to pH issues so I would wonder what your pH of your water and run-off is, since they are such small containers it should be easy to check and adjust the pH. I would start with a flush, then pH adjustment flush, then followed by a pH adjusted nutrient application...hopefully your soil drains well if not your may want to be careful on flooding the root zone that heavily. Also I've found a foliar spray of seaweed/kelp extract is always welcome to any plant showing signs of stress.
Sauswaus
Sauswauscommented6 years ago
@TC_Connoisseur, Thanks again for an extensive reply. It's a lot of information to take in as I am completely new to nutrients, pH and all that, but the main reason I enjoy growing is because there is so much to read up on and learn about so I will definitely check out your suggested bonus reading. I am also positive that my tap water does not contain any Chlorine. The Netherlands has very strict rules on the quality of our tap water.
TC_Connoisseur
TC_Connoisseurcommented6 years ago
@Sauswaus, 8.2pH is pretty high for tap water, but I have no idea what your source is as we are definitely on different continents. Also a sticking point here if you are planning to use tap water and a soil with microbes to balance pH you will need to be very sure there is no Chlorine or Chloramine in your water, they will destroy your microbes that you believe are balancing your pH. Chlorine is easy to use a cheap aquarium air pump and stone for 24 hours and volatilize off, Chloramine requires a carbon filter to remove. The USA has mostly moved to chloramine so we have to carbon filter here. Now to address your questions, here is what I see. - Incoming water 8.2, outgoing water 6.0-6.7. Your water seems to not be heavily buffered (Low Total Alkalinity) or your soil is well buffered, either way your soil is doing most of the work for you and you should continue to adjust each time as you are, this will help but take a few waterings to build a buffer in the soil. I (almost) always pre-flush/buffer my soil a week before planting/transplanting and regardless of how much I trust the soil manufacture to do their jobs right. - Soil 6.2-6.9, adjusted water input 6.0, water out 5.9-6.1 I would suspect the reason for the pH drop in the run-off is due to water soluble nitrogen running off, nitrogen is potentially acidic and could account for that minor drop especially if your water lacks significant buffer, it could also be calcium(buffer) in your water getting bound into the soil. If you are measuring your soil pH by from the top half only you may be getting a higher portion of that calcium or other buffer from the water that is binding to the top layers as it runs through and the more water soluble nitrogen is hanging out lower in the soil. Now all of that said, I believe now that you have a meter and are on the right track with adjusting your pH you should be fine so keep doing what your are now doing. I also always suggest some Kelp/Seaweed extract in a Foliar Spray or even root drench also to give a quick shot of micro nutrients whenever a plant shows any stress. Also find out if you have Chlorine/Chloramine in you water, if you do you need to eliminate this before getting good organic buffering results, otherwise sticking to bottled liquid nutrients with pH up and down is the better route. Some Bonus Reading, If you have time and really love complex systems google both "soil ph and nutrient availability" to see what nutrients are most available, and also "Mulder's Chart" which gives each nutrients antagonistic and synergistic effects on each other...you'll probably hate trying to make sense of this but its good to reference as I never assume one issue is the cause of everything, in your case your pH is the big problem I saw but as you find out more it may end up being a nutrient that the soil is lacking or even one that is too high leading to a lock out situation at your particular pH. Everything is connected and the more data points you have the better your assumptions and corrections will be.
Sauswaus
Sauswauscommented6 years ago
@TC_Connoisseur, Here is a short version of my latest update: pH meter just came in with the mail. Calibrated and took measurements right away. My tapwater measures at a 8.2 pH, which is even higher than I expected. What's confusing me is that the soil measures at 6.2-6.9. Flushed the pots for more measurements. - Runoff water flushed with the 8.2 pH tap water I've been giving them from the start: pH 6 - 6.7 differing between pots. - Runoff water flushed with tap water corrected to pH 6.0: pH 5.9 - 6.1 Now I'm wondering if - just like the Royal Mix I'll be using - the Pokon Seed & Cutting soil is self-regulating organic soil. Couldn't find the answer to this anywhere so I'm assuming the answer is no. Soil pH should be at 5.2-6.2 from the bag though. Any ideas? I have no idea what to make of this.
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GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoecommentedweek 86 years ago
Great pictures, detailed comment - nice diary untill now! 👍🏻💚
Wachsemilian
Wachsemiliancommentedweek 56 years ago
looks nice dude 😎keep up the great work ...💪have a good one ,till next week
GrowBeforeHoe
GrowBeforeHoecommentedweek 46 years ago
The little deformities don't really matter I think. Transplant your ladys in some bigger pots and their will be fine. Your grow is looking pretty good until now. Keep Growing! 👍
G4NJAG4NG
G4NJAG4NGcommentedweek 26 years ago
Laughing Buddha is a great strain to grow but can be sensitive on the nutes so take it easy at the start, I started feeding Buddha after couple of weeks with very small amounts 1ml/l of micro 1ml/l grow and 1ml/l calmag and even on week 10 I was keeping the feed small and she loved it. A good plus is that she is quite resilient to cold weather, has survived the many days of low temps around 15-16 degrees Celsius indoors, haven't tested outdoor yet 👌 hopefully she will make good progress for you, good luck!! She will be worth the wait 😁
DEVILSHARVESTER666
DEVILSHARVESTER666commentedweek 16 years ago
Can't wait to see how your grow pans out. These are three strains I also wanna grow! ✊😈
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 163 years ago
Spectacular my dude.