The_Wanderer This is the F1-Hybrid that was so influential it shaped modern cannabis genetics. Thin Mint is what we called it before WW decided to ride on it and make it popular. High quality buds that are a soft smooth smoke when cured. It has a woody quality and a light minty tatse that cools the airway. The name inspired someone to name it Girl Scout cookies because the Girl Scouts sold a cookie called 'Thin Mint'. I pay hommage to the original by using the Thin Mint identity.
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Germination Method
4
Week 4. Vegetation
22d ago
1/3
16 hrs
Light Schedule
23 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
55 %
Air Humidity
75.71 liters
Pot Size
Nutrients 4
Homebox Fish Emulsion
10 mll
Calcium Carbonate Dissolved in Vinegar
1 mll
Epsom Salt
1 mll
The_Wanderer 5 weeks after germination, the plants are showing their distinctive adult characteristics. Very short internodal spacing, vigorous side branching, and the form of the leaf is recognizable. I can tell these apart from other plants visually, but I mark them anyway in case I am no longer around they can still be identified by others. Being the first generation of a hybrid the plants are very similar to each other being a 50/50 mix of the parents, yet can be divided into 2 physical expressions. One has very narrow leaves and the other has a leaf that looks more like a hybrid leaf shape. These physical differences may coincide with nuanced effects and flavor.
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LST
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5
Week 5. Vegetation
22d ago
1/14
16 hrs
Light Schedule
23 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
55 %
Air Humidity
75.71 liters
Pot Size
Nutrients 3
Homebox Fish Emulsion
10 mll
Calcium Carbonate Dissolved in Vinegar
1 mll
Epsom Salt
1 mll
The_Wanderer Another week and training is still underway but is working fine, nice side branching and tight internodal spacing. It does fight hard against the training. Sometimes They break free of the gardening wire and I have to re-wrap it. Very vigorous and healthy plants, forgiving and tough.
Typical adult leaves for Thin Mint. An interesting trait from one of the parents is carried over. It was here I did some light defoliation and took clones. I moistened some coco coir grow plugs and put the cutting inside. They joined some strangers for a nap under a humidity dome.
This is the end of vegetation. Time to flower.
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Week 7. Flowering
21d ago
1/8
11 hrs
Light Schedule
23 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
55 %
Air Humidity
75.71 liters
Pot Size
30 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Homebox Fish Emulsion
10 mll
Calcium Carbonate Dissolved in Vinegar
1 mll
Epsom Salt
1 mll
The_Wanderer All cuttings have rooted, some better than others. Bud sites are forming everywhere. Those close internodes with LST shoot off into a lot of bud sites. Its ganja fireworks in slow motion.
The_Wanderer Clones doing ok. Changed to 10-14. Relative humidity was too high, 70%, during scotoperiod so I am giving 25% less water and have removed some leaves to help. After 2 weeks I will do more because I don't want to stress them too much. This helped bring the humidity down to acceptable. During photoperiod the relative humidity is acceptable. I'm guessing 4 more weeks of flowering at least.
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Week 12. Flowering
8d ago
1/5
9 hrs
Light Schedule
23 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Weak
Smell
55 %
Air Humidity
19 °C
Night Air Temp
75.71 liters
Pot Size
30 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Homebox Fish Emulsion
10 mll
Calcium Carbonate Dissolved in Vinegar
1 mll
Epsom Salt
1 mll
The_Wanderer Its only been 6 days, and I increased the scotoperiod by 1 hour to try to encourage her to finish faster, but she has some weeks to go.
The places I pollinated are bursting with matured seeds. These will be the cross with Alien Sparkle, and the undisclosed male special project.
I am a little impatient and ready to start the next seeds. So Ive been considering that. Not so easy to decide what to plant next.
Not again. I am so tired of the same problems over and over. Again here with Thin Mint aka Girl Scout Cookies we have the clown show from the commercial market and tainted/mis information in order to make $$ off of trends and hype and the gullibility if uninformed consumers.
Some places have the basic information sort of right. Thin Mint is a cross between Durban Poison and a certain Kush. The kush with the lemon bred into it. The kush people know which one it is, it has its name. But these websites just say OG Kush. So lets move on. Look at the description of Girl Scout Cookies. Same plants are crossed. 2 different names, same cross. Some say this cross resulted in different varied phenotypes. Well, yeah if the parent plants being crossed by different people are different plants altogether being crossed. Not being genetically closely related to the parent plants someone else used will do that.
When the parent plants are the *real untainted authentic Durban Poison crossed with the right kush, you get Thin Mint/GSC f1-hybrid which can only be made by using the authentic stable parent lines. This results in a progeny that have the mint smell and taste, and the f1-hybrids are very similar to each other being a 50/50 mix of the stable parents.
Yet some "information" says there is several distinct variations of this cross that are noticeably different from each other with different tastes, effects, growth forms. Which sounds.. not right. They either used a hybrid for the cross or a fake in the cross to get a result like they describe. Or it could be just myth building to sell some random hybrid because they want the money because that name is in demand. Or both. A fake Durban Poison is highly likely as proven by the study available from Plos One ( https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0267498 ) where products in the commercial market sold under the same name from different sources were NOT genetically closely related. Durban Poison scoring so bad it was below the "random shuffle" indicating possibly widespread intentional misrepresentation. I think only Tangie scores worse. That could be part of it.
Other places talk about Thin Mint, but for obvious reasons can't produce it... but offer "their version" of it. Sound familiar? It was in another diary of mine where some commercial supplier offered "their version" but not the real thing. My joke about it was, you take your kid to daycare and come to take you kid home later, but its not your kid, its some other kid. You ask for your child, but they say, "We don't have your child. But we have our version if your child, and thats good enough." Hehhh? I don't want someones version. Some rando.
I understand a lot of money was made off names, descriptions, alternate versions and even deception, and thats going to pollute information, minds, there has to be confusion and gullibility for it to work. And its resulted in this huge mess. I thought about doing a deep dive and talking to experts in the cannabis genetic field of study, reaching out to people that have done the genetic testing. Not just the breeders I am in touch with. I don't know if I have the energy to do that, but I might. It will take time. I'm considering it. Considering it just so for once you all can have real information with supporting evidence. Not just more claims and stories you are expected to believe in. Its exhausting work.
What I can say, is that the Thin Mint I am showing you all is the real thing. This is what started it all. Smells like mint, tastes like mint, looks like its half durban, half kush, and carries identifiable traits mostly from the durban parent.
Yes, its a rare terpene profile like the others I document here. Thats why its worth my (life)time, energy, and resources to grow it, use it in breeding, use it myself, and document it here.
@GERGrowDesigns, Thank you for the well wishes! Thin Mint is in flower already (again) it's something I like personally to have around and available. The cooling mint feels nice in the airway and mouth and it's a soft woody smoke. This is a retrospective, until I catch up to where they are today. I will be filling it out more as I go along and find the right pictures. 👽👽
Thin Mint still keeps building, reflowering. These next 2 weeks seems like a long wait. Im ready to clean everything and shut down for the cold months.
They smell like mint through the flowering as Im working very close to them and touching them, but strangely, if I am just near them or open up the grow box it sometimes smells like bananas.
Scanning through week 10 of flowering I started to think about all the people that knew Thin Mint from buying a clone. That same clone grown by so many people, over and over. Like a CD skipping or a scratched vinyl record. I think about what they missed out on by not seeing more examples of the F1-hybrid like these. Growing resin covered calyx in the middle of the leaves, or the tiny star shape- diving board leaf growing out of the fan leaves. Something primordial? Or is it just experimenting new expressions? I should have thought to fill them with water and see if she... no that's a pitcher plant I'm thinking of. Cannabis is not carnivorous. Cannabis only hypnotizes monkeys to care for it.