MyBigFatSummerofGrow commentedweek 11mo ago
Great story! West Africa - I visited Senegal actually quite a few years ago, didn't think of weed. So which ones are the seedlings from there? Rocky or Prince?
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Casamance Landrace Project
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Casamance Sativa Landrace
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Veggie Garden Soil
Outdoor
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15 l
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Germination1mo ago
DomForester I've just come back from a long stay in West-Africa and had learned to appreciate their "Bushweed" which turned out to be as close to a pure sativa landrace as it gets. And a somewhat unexplored one at that - if anyone has experience with Gambia or Casamance strains let me know!
Sensimilla is almost unheard of among the folks I've met over there so, needless to say, I took a bunch of seeds home to give them a shot.
In Senegambia, just north of the equator, these are exclusively grown outdoors at an almost constant 12/12 light cycle. In theory great for flower, but these babies pop out of their seed and immediately think it's time to go for it. Add limited water and nutrition, next to no trim, and dried outside in the heat, the end product had the looks and smoke quality of a German hedge at the end of a dry summer. I'm hoping that, with appropriate day-night cycles to veg in Northern European summer, and a controlled flip, flower, and finish in my tent under two MarsHydro FC1500 EVOs, will give them something akin to buds and terpene expression.
To not risk cutting short my own supply, I'm adding four Purple #1s from DutchPassion into the mix. I bought these unfeminized and see how many males and females I'll get. Once I've figured out who's who, I'll start thinking about a little side project to produce a Casamance X Purple#1 cross, pollinate a few lower bud sides to get seeds, then cull the males.
I've started all of them in my tent under dimmed lights (30-45% at 35cm) until they're strong enough - and nights get warm enough - to move them outdoors. While they do their vegging business outdoors I'm finishing an Auto run in the tent. The Photos will be moved back into the tent when the Autos are done around late August/early September. The neighbours don't mind me growing whatever I want as long as it doesn't stank up their gardens and living rooms. So during flower, tent with carbon filter it is.
NB - A few seedlings didn't establish after planting so I germed and planted two more Purples (Jimi & Marshall) a week later. These will catch up during outdoor veg.
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Week 1. Vegetation1mo ago
5 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
25 °C
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
70 %
Air Humidity
7 l
Pot Size
0.05 l
Watering Volume
35 cm
Lamp Distance
DomForester The Lamins (Casamance Sativa Landrace) have grown to about 5cm and are pushing 4th node. Early on I was a little concerned about the slightly crumbly texture of their first true leaf pair but new growth is looking great - I'm loving the strong sativa expression, especially comparing to the fat salad-looking, indica-heavy Purples (Rocky and Prince).
I'm noticing now that, hoping for a couple of ladies, maybe I shouldn't have named them all after men. But Purple Rain and Everything Is Purple were to present in my mind to not call these Purple#1s after Prince and (A$AP) Rocky. The other two Purple seedlings have only been out for a couple days and playing catch-up. They're called Jimi and Marshall - guess why...
I'm deliberately keeping them all in small 7 litre pots for now to help keep height in check. The tent is nowhere near tall enough to let them stretch to their full height. And yes, I will need to LST, top, and mainline the hell out of them to make this work in a 180cm tent.
Everyone's drinking their drink happily and drying up quickly. 100ml pH adjusted water, no nutes yet. Takes a whole lot of discipline to not give in to temptation and water them every day.
Initially I've tried to start them under 18/6 light cycle but it isn't warm enough outside yet to keep the tent warm enough during lights off. So they'll have to live with 24/0 until my heater arrives.
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Week 2. Vegetation1mo ago
7 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
70 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Night Air Temp
7 l
Pot Size
0.15 l
Watering Volume
35 cm
Lamp Distance
DomForester All four showing both vertical and horizontal growth. Some serious jumps throughout this last week. Decided to do some (more or less scientifically valid) A/B testing - LST first on one Purple and one Casamance Sativa, topping first on the other Purple and the other Casamance Sativa. Trying to figure out what works best to keep height in check and get a nice, even canopy full of colas. Probably won't be able to see this through until the end as some of them may turn out male.
Heater arrived so I'm back on 18/6 without dropping temp too much during lights off. Both Sativas looked a little behind the purples until yesterday when they absolutely exploded - I'm wondering if it's the difference between 24/0 and 18/6 that's working better for them or just natural growth cycles. They definitely look much perkier since they're getting a little bit of sleep every day.
Watered with nematodes (?) yesterday and placed some sticky things in each pot to kick a little fungus gnats infestation to the curb.
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Week 3. Vegetation14d ago
12 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
70 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Night Air Temp
7 l
Pot Size
0.3 l
Watering Volume
35 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Bio-Grow
2 mll
Calmag
2 mll
DomForester Going into a sunny week and having relaxed in the tent after first rounds of LST and topping, I've moved the gang outdoors. No direct sunlight yet but even diffused light seems to deliver a heavier punch than my LEDs could ever dream up. Jimi (the one week younger Purple) just got topped while the rest has had a full week since training started.
Lamin HC (Casamance Sativa) and Rocky (Purple) have been pushing new tops like no body's business. Lamin HC got cleaned about good below topped note so only two new tops are emerging. Rocky couldn't get cleaned up properly below the cut, went nuts, and pushed four new tops.
Lamin J (Casamance Sativa) looked a bit sad with LST throughout the first week and I was certain that topping first was the better approach. But today it's looking much better. Not sure what's going on with Prince (Purple)... Never seen a plant react to LST so conservatively.
Trimmed a couple leaves that didnt get off the ground and started feeding just a little Grow and CalMag.
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Week 4. Vegetation13d ago
20 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
50 %
Air Humidity
15 °C
Night Air Temp
7 l
Pot Size
0.7 l
Watering Volume
35 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Bio-Grow
3 mll
Calmag
3 mll
DomForester Heatwave gone, sun still around. Rocky (Purple#1) is a killer! Growing 16 new tops and adopted a nice symmetry after just 2 rounds of topping. So much stretch after the first couple days of diffused light outdoors! Nodes are at least 5cm apart. Most new tops are coming from one node further below the cut. I’ll probably leave it at that and focus on getting them all equally tall and spread outwards.
Excuse my enthusiasm - first time growing photos outdoors. This hits different!
Prince (Purple#1) was super slow to redistribute auxin after LST but it’s finally getting to the right places.
Lamin J (Casamance Sativa) is stretching so hard, main stem is LTD’d halfway around the pot. By the time I can flip them this one gonna be a basket!
Lamin HC (Casamance Sativa) stretched a whole lot too and grew huge leaves. Little less busy pushing new tops compared to Rocky. Gonna have to top this one again soon to get to at least 8.
Jimi (Purple#1) about tripled in size after going outdoors but hardly developed any new nodes. Got too lanky and I chopped it in half. Little clone now trying to make it on the window sill.
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Week 5. Vegetation5d ago
25 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
50 %
Air Humidity
18 °C
Night Air Temp
15 l
Pot Size
1 l
Watering Volume
35 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Bio-Grow
4 mll
Calmag
3 mll
DomForester Been another warm, dry, and sunny week and my garden corner is getting greener every day!
Lamin HC (topped Casamance Sativa) drank up a liter a day and badly needed a larger pot. Came out clean! Dusted new soil with Great White. Showed zero stress and pushed new growth immediately the morning after.
Lamin J (LST’d Casamance Sativa) is starting to dry up quicker and quicker too and will get a larger pot later this week.
Rocky’s structure is looking like an absolute dream. My working theory is that I accidentally brought this one outdoors exactly at the right time after first topping to get an extra stretch between nodes at new tops. I’ll go nuts if they it turns out male… When am I supposed to start seeing signs?
Prince’s LST’d but un-topped tops are looking stunning with tons of nodes stacked closely on top of each other.
Jimi (the smallest topped Purple) took a while to get back ob track after quite a bit of topping.
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DomForester commented1mo ago
@MyBigFatSummerofGrow, my thoughts exactly… also, next to not pollinating them and drying and curing properly, i am very curious to figure out if a “normal” veg and flower period does them well. these will have developed to make do with an almost constant 12/12 cycle given their native proximity to the equator, but that cant be ideal for how buds turn out. plan is to veg them outdoors with heavy training until august-ish, then flip and flower indoors.
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MyBigFatSummerofGrow commented1mo ago
@DomForester, great idea! As a newbee to growing I don't do LST, cropping or anything, especially since I currently run autos. Really, all that twisting for 60 instead of 50 gramm? I don't think it is worth the risk. Anyways, I assume you flip and flower indoors because it is already late in the season?
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DomForester commented1mo ago
@MyBigFatSummerofGrow, that and my neighbours aren’t too crazy about getting their backyard and living room all smelled up unfortunately. before i started indoor, i had to harvest my first (and only) outdoor grow a few weeks early when they came knocking.
on lst - for me the difference in previous auto grows was more like 20 vs 50g per plant. absolutely recommend lst on autos (def no topping though). good idea though to stay away from it until you figure out all the other things that can and will go wrong :D
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MyBigFatSummerofGrow commentedweek 54d ago
This grow is starting to take up quite some space! Nice!
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DomForester commented4d ago
@MyBigFatSummerofGrow, and I still have at least a months to go before flipping them in the tent (!)
So somehow I'll have to keep them under, say, 80cm to keep headroom for flower stretch. Gonna become a bushy bunch...
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miasmatic commentedweek 11mo ago
das wird sehr interessant werden :D
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damod87 commentedweek 11mo ago
Wild! Curious how this one turns out
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