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Fingerprint Genetics - Torontonian Cookies
Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 4, 7
LST
weeks 6-8
Defoliation
weeks 6-7, 9-10
19 L
Pot Size
3.79 L
Watering
Grow Conditions
Week 8
Vegetation
35.56
cm
inch
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
13+ conditions after
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ml/l
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DeeCee DeeCee
5 years ago
Monday - droopy girls looked even drooper instead of better as the pots have gotten drier so I'm assuming they are thirsty. I fed only half a Fallon to the two Cookies plants as a test. Maybe they'll respond better to more frequent but less volume waterings. Here's hoping I come back from work and they are happy! I also readjusted some ties again and took off a few fans from each plant to open them up to light and air. The Blue Dream especially was turning into a thicket! Node spacing is incredibly tight on her. Included a pic of the new watering system I'm working on. 5g jug on a shelf with a valve and 1/2 line coming from the bottom. It should save a ton of time and last me about 2 weeks per refill no more spilling and mixing and hauling 1 gallon jugs. Flipped the light back to a 20/4 schedule as well. After a day they seem to have improved a bit. Cookie plants are yellowing a bit - next feed will be at higher strength. Tuesday - I was greatly relieved this morning to find the droop significantly improved. I believe the 4hr dark period yesterday and the raised lights to be the solution to the droop. Tonight I will flush with RO water followed by a full strength gallon of nutrients to try to reset the medium and feed them properly. I believe the yellowing to be a nitrogen deficiency now. I am still very hesitant to resort to uprooting them especially now that I think I've pinpointed the drooping posture to being light related. If the flush doesn't work and they are still deteriorating after a week I will uproot and refill the medium. Thanks so much to everyone who has weighed in so far to help out! It's funny how attached you can get when you grow something from a little seed and put in so much time to growing. Wednesday - No flush needed! The droop is all but gone after a day or two of 20/4, turns out Torontonian Cookies needs rest! I foliar fed b52 to one of them to test run it to reduce stress and sneak some nitrogen in. It didn't kill it do I'll do the others tomorrow. I fed them each a gallon of mid strength nutes, up a touch from my low end feeding. Next one will be a little higher as well later this week when they are drier. Thursday - released the mains to catch up to the shoots flying up from the stems to even out the canopy. I foliar fed a 300ppm solution of b52 and a couple drops of bloom and micro to get them some phosphorous and nitrogen fast. I've never foliar fed before so well see if it does anything. I'm running out of space so after another week or two tops of letting them get some LST free vertical growth I'll be flipping to flower.
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Grow Questions
DeeCee
DeeCeestarted grow question 5 years ago
Added a couple pics of some leaves curling up along the edges. I added a space heater a few says ago is this from the heat being a little close and high or something else? Secondly plants are growing, how do you beat determine when to up pot, I'll be going right into the final 5g
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 5 years ago
You need to transplant now! This could be the answer to all your question triggered by root problems. Plant has overgrown container. The best way to tell when to transplant is when the leaves reach the edge of container like yours. I recommend great white when transtplant just sprinkle on roots directly. You will get outrageous root growth and helps transplant shock.
DeeCee
DeeCeestarted grow question 5 years ago
What are the beige/brown spots a sign of? Why are the two Cookies plants always droopy yet the Blue Dream never droopy and they have all been watered the same. Roughly 1g each every 5 or so days when pots are dry and light. My light is up to 30" so that's not it.
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BlackCousin
BlackCousinanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello DeeCee, your girls are still looking good. I see your problem, its sucking the nitrogen out of its leaves. That said it could be different things, not enough nutes at this stage. Maybe its not getting enough nutes or not consistent. Do not let your medium dry out completly (its bad for your girl and her roots), put your finger top in your medium when its a bit moist u can feed her again, if its really wet wait another day. Also i see your humidity is a little bit on the low side, it should be more between 65% and 55% i would recommend a foliar spray with silica or give silica with the regular feeding. I think thats about it and if you do something now they will bounce back up. Hope this was an helpfull answer my friend, if so give the answer a like. Keep on growing. Peace 👍
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DeeCee
DeeCeecommentedweek 85 years ago
Hey everyone! So I've saved the droop! I looked back in my notes and it started the day I switched to 24/0. A day after going back to 20/4 they perked right back out. Turns out Torontonian Cookies needs a little rest! The yellowing fan leaves and occasional brown / bronze spots I believe to be either/or both nitrogen phosphorus deficiency which I believe I have in check. All signs pointing up! Thanks so much for the help @mrs_larimar @asnoriu
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented5 years ago
@DeeCee,ok ok normally i look for the light time... but they were so tall i forgot it... yes great that you could solve the problem by your own
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 65 years ago
If you have tendecies to overwater . those smartpots provides it. They keep all the wet stuff inside......think about taking any other plastic pot , to have abetter drainage. your girls look like the roots a re standing in a swamp. Touch the bottom of your smartpots and tell me whow they feel
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented5 years ago
@AsNoriu, you are absolutely right...i have been using clay granules... and totally forgot it.... thy for remembering us for such easy things,,,,, apreciate it very much
AsNoriu
AsNoriucommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, you can put lair of air stones on bottom of air/self pruning pots and you will never have overwatering or moisture concentration in some spots.... Still you will have to lift them to determine watering time ;) I know you know, but, with simple construction material from DIY store you can prevent it. I bought mine on ebay. Some people use it on top even, i like to see my soil and to shuffle it a bit or to add lair of fresh soil in midle of flower ( really good results ) Never had bug infection yet ;)) so my soil is always open.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented5 years ago
@DeeCee,Thats way to expensive i agree . i pay between 12 and 20 euro for the pots in a growsop.... Ive made my own " airpots too... ive pierced with a hot metal wholes in the regualr ones... and iam sure in a hardware store you find your regular ones, ebay and amazon got them too and quite cheap too
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DeeCee
DeeCeecommentedweek 85 years ago
I just had a thought - maybe the 24hr light schedule is stressing them and causing some droop. Looking back it may have come on right about when I switched from 20/4. Maybe starting tomorrow I'll switch back - I'm close to Flowering and will be slowly transitioning to 12/12 anyway. I have also gotten temps up in the basement to 19 or 20 celsius with the new furnace so it shouldn't plummet to 16 anymore.
DeeCee
DeeCeecommented5 years ago
@AsNoriu, thanks for all your advice and your time I really appreciate it. I'm going to think about my options and all this advice today and come up with a plan to execute tonight
AsNoriu
AsNoriucommented5 years ago
@DeeCee, ppm got into my life only when i got lockouts, if you dont overfeed and your leaves colour is healthy - ph is GOD. BLUELAB cost 80 on amazon, do it your first buy, when you can. Sticks are more acurate than most pens. I used paper, liquid and pen, when my plant where in trouble just to make sure, that i do what i want to do, not what wrong settings lie to me .. All the best, one thing is sure is you do not poison it its almost imposible to kill that big weed in veg. You will only slow down grow rate, shock her or so, but no kill in 99% only poison kills...
DeeCee
DeeCeecommented5 years ago
@AsNoriu, tomorrow night I'm going to do just that with one. I do have a bag of Promix seedling starter soil that should be pretty light on nutrients. I don't have a ph pen I use the sticks. I just bought a 20 dollar ppm pen off amazon a few minutes ago. I know not ideal but like I said I'm out of budget on this grow by now so it'll have to do.
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DankGardener
DankGardenercommentedweek 35 years ago
You need to transplant now! This could be the answer to all your question triggered by root problems. Plant has overgrown container. The best way to tell when to transplant is when the leaves reach the edge of container like yours. I recommend great white when transtplant just sprinkle on roots directly. You will get outrageous root growth and helps transplant shock.
Master_weeda
Master_weedacommentedweek 25 years ago
Second like for weedawan 😉Good luck for your grow 🌱
Master_weeda
Master_weedacommentedweek 25 years ago
May the force be with you 💪
Master_weeda
Master_weedacommentedweek 85 years ago
Hello my friend I replied to your grow question if the answer suits you can you validate it Please? If the problem does not hesitate to come back to me and we will make a new diagnosis. Normally everything should work out. May the strength be with you 💪
DeeCee
DeeCeecommentedweek 25 years ago
Thanks for stopping by weedawan!