4/19/2020 - The decision has been made. These girls will see their final lights out at 09:00 today. They look great and are retaining a bunch of terps at around 70F for harvest.
Lights out before harvest? Some claim that 12-72 hours of darkness before harvesting increases quality. Should we be doing it as a practice?
I've done some reading on this topic, and there are a lot of great attempts to think through the logic of being a plant; and countless anecdotal experiences claiming one way or another. Above all of it, one comment set my mindset for my decision: a user pointed out the finite energy reserves of a plant without light. It immediately reminded me of a Coco for Cannabis podcast when he talks about the ebb and flow of these energy reserves.
I recall he says that during a typical 24 hour cycle, a plant will have spent the vast majority of its energy reserves by the time lights come back on. He even says that plants "survive" the dark; important language. This point about energy usage from finite rules that a plant won't be able to do/produce much without light during an extended dark period, and that any improvement will likely be marginal.
Cannabis will constantly produce cannabinoids during flowering, but these molecules degrade when exposed to light. Additionally, terpenes volitalize rapidly above about 68F, so daytime temps work to lower final aroma. Harvesting after a dark period seems to be the most basic best practice for the best quality. This is balanced by some point where energy hits a low threshold and cannabinoid synthesis halts as a result.
With this in mind, I've landed on 24 hours of dark before beginning harvest. I figure that doubling the dark period should be sufficient time to pass the point for any additional outputs from the plant. To let it run out whatever energy stores, but past that point is likely non-beneficial in terms of any type of output from the plant.
@ThatsMyPurse yes I find it works a lot quicker if you provide the optimum temp and humidity so I use a heat mat with a heat controller set at 23c inside a germination/humidity box with clear plastic lid and then I reguarly mist the inside with water from a spray bottle .
How to maximize terpene production? I'm growing a strain that is supposed to be super stinky, and I so desperately want to get the full potential from this Chemdog cross. What does the plant need for producing terpenes and thiols? (My setup requires fully dissolved nutrients.)
-You can use additives like molasses and many others.
-You can play with the spectrum as they are spectrums that helps to have better veg and others to have better flo
-You can apply a dark period at the end of flowering.
-You try to reach the best values possible for your environment parameter.
-You need to have a stable genetic because cross can lean on the mother side or on the father side so if one smell good and the other not then you'll have to make a selection.
-You need to know when to harvest ( my cheese was at a perfect terpenes level when the trichomes were cloudy but an average smell when harvested with amber trichomes) , the harvest widow is important.
Started cutting today. Hung 1 plant in big chunks, left lower buds on.
Should I dry everything together? -or- Should I trim lower buds and make bubble ASAP?
Those buds look amazing! Great grow :)
I usually take my trim and freeze it fresh. When I'm ready to make hash, having the material already frozen will help the trichomes fall off. Perhaps freeze the trim from the first batch and join it with the second when it's ready?
Oh baby are those some gorgouse looking buds. So beautiful. Spectacular work growmie. Keep doing what it is you've been doing and may the ganja garden gods give you good fortunes until the end
Clones like it warm and very humid.. i cut the long leaves, so its easier for them to concentrate in the Roots. Give your Girls a tansparent dome ( half of a Plasticbottle) and put them on a warm place with light
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks for the information. I've pulled them from the system back into a cloning tray and added a little heating pad under the tray. It's definitely high humidity in there, flooded some of the grooves in the tray to make sure of that. Going to wait until I see roots before moving them this time-- if they make it, but I've seen clones take longer to root.
Thank you again, love this community!
@ThatsMyPurse, we’ve been growing in it all winter lol! But we currently have 5 in full bloom and the rest are young ! We got a perfect rotation to keep it full between all stages of life! But the smell is starting to take over lol that’s why I’m interested in getting a filter system! But I’m gonna check into it and probably just do something like you said just hole cut what size I need in the door and just vent it out into the bigger room to keep the smell down thanks! 🙏
@MiPotFarm, Ah, not sure if you are planning on doing your complete grow in the closet, but you won't have much need for a filter during Vegetation. I grow out my mothers for cloning in my closet and just leave the door cracked with a fan running. If you need to drill/cut a hole, doors can be pretty cheap. There's always Home Depot & Lowe's, but you could also check for a larger resale shop. One resale shop in my area has TONS of doors for super cheap. Just a suggestion
@ThatsMyPurse, yea I guess I should of been more descriptive! I was wondering if it was running out to fresh air to vent like through the wall or if you were just venting it out of the grow room into another? I ask because I’m putting one in my closet grow I’m using but I don’t want to vent it to the outside through my wall because I’m adding a grow room in my garage to be more permanent and don’t want to be putting holes in my house lol! So you said your venting yours into a bigger area I think you still did answer my question! Thanks
Oh baby are those some gorgouse looking buds. So beautiful. Spectacular work growmie. Keep doing what it is you've been doing and may the ganja garden gods give you good fortunes until the end
@Denzul, Thanks for the encouragement! I've really enjoyed growing these girls and I'm very happy with them. It's really nice getting these comments, I don't know any growers where I live to pal around with.
Gonna start chopping after a quick meal!
@ThatsMyPurse, Hi I pretty much poured out all the fertilizer :-) in the end he became Canna. every now and then I grow with a different fertilizer but rarely. at canna, the values remain very stable, especially in aerophonic :-)
@MadeInGermany, Awesome! Thanks for checking mine out. How are you liking the Canna line of nutrients? I've only used GHE, but I like to try different formulations.
Great looking plants!
@Ferenc, Thanks again! They look much better int he photos. IRL, the foliage is making me nervous that these won't ripen in time! I'm sure it will be fine though. Have a great day!
@smoking_hills9, Thanks for checking it out. It was a dream project when I was younger, but too risky/illegal to attempt. I'm glad I got around to it, and I'm still surprised it actually works.
@Wachsemilian, I got too eager and set myself back. D'oh!
Pulled the clones from their little chamber too early and now it's been two weeks. I put them back in the lidded flat for high humidity two days ago. They are just starting to get rooted... or at least they are still alive. Not sure if they'll take. Input would be appreciated from a pro!?
@ThatsMyPurse, thank you appreciate the help, i have the same pump as well but i wasnt really happy with the droplet size(the same sprayers you started with) so im looking for better sprayers! thank you again i really appreciate the help.
@joeymack, I ordered everything for the aeroponics project on amazon; the lights were ordered on alibaba.
All research for the main pump points to the Aquatech 8800-- it is used for pressurized R/O water systems and NSF rated. The pumps I'm using for draining the bins are some inexpensive 9V arduino pumps I found on amazon. The nozzles are poultry misters, but they were hard to find inexpensive fittings that contained no brass. If you aren't as obsessive about droplet size, the barbed style ones from Mist King are more convenient to work with -- just jam them into the end of your compatible tubing.
Good luck, have fun, be safe! (Maybe the other way around)